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Speaker 2: Not too much man? Thank you so much for Mikarl.

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Speaker 1: We had this lovely event called Galaxy KD and this

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Speaker 2: Come on, man, it's also unreal.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Ah, you my friend, the weight of your talent in

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Speaker 1: Billy here. You love this place. You've been here for

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Speaker 2: Yes it is. Frank and Adrian. I can't thank him enough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah? No, no, well it's my experience of a lifetime.

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Speaker 1: Now it's my honor. Can I have the honor this time? Please?

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Speaker 1: I really hope you do the thing that I say

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Speaker 3: And at first I didn't want to be almos if

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, I'm over here and I'm like, I am not

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Speaker 1: This is like, no, it's a It's a really beautiful song.

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Speaker 2: Man, And I can't help but just throw it back

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Speaker 3: So funny, like like like you see Tatum like like

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Speaker 1: Now, this is well, I don't want to be the

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Speaker 1: All right, So whatever you want to do, Tatum Boush,

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Speaker 6: Do I want to tell you about a friend of mine?

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Speaker 6: She makes me want to feel like everything's don't shine

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Speaker 4: Never have I had that before, Because he said, there's

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Speaker 7: Come with me.

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Speaker 4: Now, honey, Come take a deep breath and dive in

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Speaker 8: Mm hmm. I don't want to tell you about a

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Speaker 7: Colling with me with me suffree, honey, come with me, Wow,

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Speaker 7: come with me, honey, ul besed, soul free always.

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Speaker 5: Now see what you call we got to thank you.

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Speaker 9: Okay, let me tell you about a friend of mine.

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Speaker 9: She's so damn fine. Let's tell you about a friend

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Speaker 9: I'm too shine.

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Speaker 4: Come with me, your honey, Come will be so free.

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Speaker 4: Come with me, honey, Come will be so free?

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Speaker 1: All right? Be selling CDs outside and each please, Bull

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Speaker 5: We gripped your intail groups?

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Speaker 1: Are we going to drop that song?

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Speaker 1: Wow? This is just it's been a It's a beautiful experience.

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Speaker 1: Second time and first, just give me a second. It's

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Speaker 2: Leave tomorrow, But we got one more show tonight.

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Speaker 1: Where are you going the district?

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Speaker 3: Why?

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Speaker 2: I'm going home for a couple of days to recharge,

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Speaker 1: Yes, Oh that's gonna be great, the European tour. And

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good experience.

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Speaker 1: Ladies of German places, welcome and belly with foe as well. Great,

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Speaker 2: We have four different shows in Germany.

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Speaker 1: funny Spanish just well, it's okay. Video really is a

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Speaker 1: very very good player. He's very good. He's saying you

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Speaker 1: He said. It's a beautiful, very good a stage. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Yes, we have an hour every morning on this. What's

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Speaker 5: Like start a podcast for the honey, come on, this

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Speaker 5: is look at this, this is like this is it?

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Speaker 1: You know what, If you get enough enough people telling you,

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Speaker 1: that and doused very ruful, Thank you, very much your time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. This is incredible any.

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Speaker 1: Time, anytime you take them Tides. Thank you for being

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Speaker 1: thank you. It's it's awesome and you'll be against so

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Speaker 1: and I feel it. All the best on your tour

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Speaker 1: and all the best with regard to today's chart show.

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Speaker 1: We hope that you are number one. I'll call you

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Speaker 5: We'll do that even if you aren't your number one.

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Speaker 1: And we say that to all the kids that don't anyway, No,

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Speaker 1: it's not at all. Okay, this is life. Honey is

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Speaker 1: out now. But you're a full Tatum, Tides and Bush,

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