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Speaker 1: Sabine too, weekend breakfast sustainable living.

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Speaker 2: All right, it is our sustainability time, and today we're

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Speaker 2: speaking about something that I think, you know, if you

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Speaker 2: don't live in a space where you have to take

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Speaker 2: care of your own God, and it's easy to forget

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Speaker 2: and that that is the correct type of lawn care,

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Speaker 2: taking care of your lawn. We are the cusp of

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Speaker 2: autumn and it is you know, about to turn.

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Speaker 3: We're about to see more shades.

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Speaker 2: Of brown, and during this time, lawns usually suffer. And

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Speaker 2: if they're not taken care of, you know, well enough,

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Speaker 2: and they're not you know, watered in the right way

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Speaker 2: and not fed the food so to speak that they need,

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Speaker 2: then you know, later on in the year, it's really

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Speaker 2: hard to see the health of lawns, of your lawn

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Speaker 2: recovering and restored to its former glory. And I think

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Speaker 2: it's an important conversation to have this morning. And so

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Speaker 2: for that chat, we have Paul Vonk who's a gardening expersion.

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Speaker 2: He joins us on the line, Paul, good morning, thank

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Speaker 2: you for your.

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Speaker 1: Time, A very good morning to you and the rest

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Speaker 1: of seven or two. Great to be here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely lovely. I mean, you know, I think Paul,

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Speaker 3: you know, living.

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Speaker 2: In communal spaces, especially in Johannesburg, has left most of

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Speaker 2: us not really knowing how to take care of your

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Speaker 2: lawn because it gets taken care of by other people, right,

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Speaker 2: And it seems like that it almost it's the background

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Speaker 2: in your life. You almost forget that it really needs

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Speaker 2: to be taken care of in the best way possible.

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Speaker 2: And now we're on the cusp of autumn and the

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Speaker 2: lawn turns to suffer at this time of the year,

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Speaker 2: but it's not taken care of, right.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, right, But I think it's very important to understand

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Speaker 1: that we are already in autumn. Many people misunderstand this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, so I've seen. I've seen the months.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen.

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Speaker 2: You know, this is really funny because it's a conversation

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Speaker 2: that I've been happy with the friend with friends of

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Speaker 2: mine right around when you start counting, right, and according

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Speaker 2: to Google, I thought that autumn starts in March. Another

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Speaker 2: friend of mine st no, autumn actually starts in fab

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Speaker 2: So we google this and Google says the twentieth of March.

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Speaker 1: You see, there's so much confusion, but you know everything

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Speaker 1: and in fact everything for anything that is alive. Temperature

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Speaker 1: is the most important aspect, even for your own body.

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Speaker 1: We have got the right temperature from the sun. We

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Speaker 1: have this miracle of thirty seven degrees celsius that keeps

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Speaker 1: our body running. But so does the whole of horticulture.

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Speaker 1: And it is all about temperature. And this is the

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Speaker 1: time of the year when temperature starts changing. If you

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Speaker 1: plot the average temperature charts of Johannesburg or the Highfelt,

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Speaker 1: you will see that the peak of the highest temperatures

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Speaker 1: occur in January, and in January the grass starts turning downwards,

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Speaker 1: back towards winter. It's incredible and so the most important

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Speaker 1: understanding we are already in autumn. It started on one February.

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Speaker 1: Obviously our body still felt the high temperature, but the

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Speaker 1: ground started changing. If you get up at the same

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Speaker 1: have noticed the sun has moved. It's not where it was.

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Speaker 1: So the most important understand we were ready in autumn,

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Speaker 1: Highfeld where rain slows down and stops all together when

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Speaker 1: we get into winter. And what does a lawn need.

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Speaker 1: It needs continuous moisture. So you need to look at irrigation,

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Speaker 1: very very important to follow the guidelines. Don't water during

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Speaker 1: the day because it's going to be evaporated. So water

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Speaker 1: early morning or late afternoon. But the most important thing

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Speaker 1: coming back to temperature and lawns is lawn heights, the

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Speaker 1: cutting height. The best tip I can gift to anybody

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Speaker 1: Let it grow a little bit longer to what we

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Speaker 1: call six to seven centimeters. That's the cutting height that

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Speaker 1: you need to set your lawnmow tore why in particular

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Speaker 1: at this time. Yeah, so the natural rainfall is going

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Speaker 1: to slow down. So you have a lawn which is

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Speaker 1: from the root structure. So you need to not mow

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Speaker 1: so short. So that would be the very very first step. Now,

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Speaker 2: And you know, you pointed out something really important around

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Speaker 3: Time of the year.

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Speaker 2: So temperatures aren't you know, starting to drop just a bit,

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Speaker 2: particularly particularly in the morning, but they're still hy enough

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Speaker 1: During the day, definitely, they're still high. We're still having

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Speaker 1: peaks of thirty five to thirty six degrees at the moment.

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Speaker 1: This coming week looks a bit a bit cooler, which

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Speaker 1: evaporated very quickly, so very important. In fact, there's a

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Speaker 1: the round Water has never changed their watering instructions. We

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Speaker 1: do should not water before six sorry after six hundred

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Speaker 1: not before oh six hundred, and not right, not between

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Speaker 1: six hundred and eighteen hundred. So that daytime should you

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Speaker 1: should not be irrigating at all. You should be irrigating

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Speaker 1: early morning. Get up five o'clock. Beautiful temperature, beautiful climate,

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Speaker 2: I suppose you know, Paul, as the temperatures start to

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Speaker 2: drop and you know you really want to take care

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Speaker 2: of your lawn. There's a bit of a risk of

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Speaker 2: overfertilizing also at this time of the year, because you're

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Speaker 2: thinking more nutrients, more fertilizer, and you think that you

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Speaker 2: know you're taking care of the lawn. But that's also

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Speaker 2: a bit of a danger.

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Speaker 1: It is a danger, and one needs to understand the

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Speaker 1: difference between chemical fertilizers and organic fertilizers. We recommend organic.

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Speaker 1: Organic fertilizer will treat the soil and the soil will

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Speaker 1: treat the plant. And with an organic fertilizer, you have

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Speaker 1: no burning the grass. So it's probably better for the

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Speaker 1: environment and better for your grass to use an organic fertilizer.

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Speaker 1: But this is the time period when you should be

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Speaker 1: thinking about fertilization because as the grass starts going into

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Speaker 1: go brown. If you have heavy thrust, it will go brown.

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Speaker 1: needs to be fed on a regular basis. And organic

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And in terms of fertilizing, what should you be taking

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Speaker 2: into account if you are thinking of, you know, going

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Speaker 2: that root right now? Yes, so you've bought your organic fertilizer.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So what I always say, whatever you're doing in horticulture,

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Speaker 1: read the Idiot's guide. Every product that you use in

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Speaker 1: the garden has got an Idiot's guide. Just check to

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Speaker 1: see what is the right recommended addition rate. We're going

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Speaker 1: to criticalize. This is approximately a handful the square meter.

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Speaker 1: This is a rough guideline, So don't overdo it because

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Speaker 1: think of it scientifically. In addition to potentially needing to overseed,

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Speaker 1: the synodons, the am You need to use cool season

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Speaker 1: in cool season. That you have a version for some

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Speaker 1: if you are overseaing at this time, no more cucuu,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Paul, let's speak about scarifying, you know, which is

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Speaker 2: the removing of moss and thatch. You know, someone on

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Speaker 2: the West Sipe line here saying it's an important part

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Speaker 2: just before the new rains, but people seem to shy

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this could be a two hour lecture unfortunately. Let

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Speaker 4: me let me try to cut it short for you. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: because it's like at least six different other lawns available

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Speaker 4: every two years, and that you're going to do at

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Speaker 4: lowest lawn moment setting, so you're cutting all of the

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Speaker 4: So most important, only if you have cocuion, and then

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Speaker 4: you will scarify once onlysearch to remove the thatch and

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Speaker 4: all the build up of grasses that are basically suffocating

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Speaker 4: that tickoff temperature in early spring and the draft will

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Speaker 4: come back beautifully and you may need to oversee as

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Speaker 4: well at the time. But that's clarification. Is it's an

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Speaker 4: I say, it's once every two years, and it's only

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Speaker 4: if you have a cocuon very very important.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting that you say that because most

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Speaker 2: of us don't really know what type of what type

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Speaker 2: and you find this beautiful lawn, but you don't know

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Speaker 2: what type of lawn or grass it is.

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Speaker 3: How would you know that? You've got to tickle you

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Speaker 1: center and ask one of the experts. They will identify

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Speaker 1: it if they can't send it through to us, and

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Speaker 1: we can identify. So we just need to look at

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Speaker 1: So that will be the best advice. Pop into a

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Speaker 1: leading garden center or retailer and ask for advice because

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Speaker 1: it's readily available. And then at least you know which

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Speaker 1: lawn type you have, and then are different instructions with

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Speaker 1: different lawn types. Also, we do an annual lecture in

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Speaker 1: that we want in that lecture. N't the spring to

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Speaker 1: understand what has to happen to the lawn when you

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Speaker 1: get into spring, because but now, as I said, as

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Speaker 1: we said earlier, we're going into a slow, slowly declining

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Speaker 1: temperature phrase less water you must you must do some irrigation,

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Speaker 1: you must feed, and then it's spring. There's a whole

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Speaker 1: bunch of other stuff that has to has to has

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Speaker 1: to happen to fix lawn because unfortunately, we are lazy,

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Speaker 1: how tang It's we don't even get into the car

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Speaker 1: when it's winter. So it's only when the temperature ticks

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Speaker 1: when we when it's warm enough to walk barefoot on

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Speaker 1: stone floor, that is the moment we pop into the

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Speaker 1: garden center and start looking and read rescuing lawns and

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Speaker 1: gardens crazy.

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Speaker 2: All right, Paul Vonk, you're gonna have to leave it there.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time, and I do

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Speaker 2: hope that this, you know, will help many of you

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Speaker 2: out there who are looking to start taking care better

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Speaker 2: care of your lawn, particularly during autumn. The autumn is

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Speaker 2: a beautiful season. I love the temperature, not too cold,

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Speaker 2: not too hot. But I do think we sometimes struggle

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Speaker 2: when it comes to our gardening, and I hope that

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Speaker 2: that conversation has been helpful