1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Now, not with any particular reason, but somehow. Today we're 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: focusing on economic optimism and positive things happening in South Africa, 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: but also involving other continents as well. So just to recap, 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: and if you missed either of these interviews, you can 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: go and pick them up on Primedia plus dot com. 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: We spoke about a really exciting development a South Africa 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: looks to build a pistachio nut business and to do 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: it on scale. There's a gap in the world market 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: because all of the world's pistachios are produced in the north. 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: It's also a crop for which you can get significant 11 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: bang for your hecta. I know that's not a term, 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: but it is now. So we did that interview earlier 13 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: and you can pick that up. And then we heard 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: about a Kenyan solar powered or electric motor cycle that 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: could fill a huge gap in the African market and 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: Stellenbosch University partnering on that again. Check that out on 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: the website. We're going to turn our attention to the 18 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: funding side of all of these things. There's something called 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: the Harvest Fund. It's been going for quite a while 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: now because it's now on its third iteration. Harvest Fund 21 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: three has just closed at two hundred and thirty million Rand. 22 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: It's all organized and driven by ann entity called Endeavor 23 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: South Africa. We joined now by Allison Collier, who is 24 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: CEO of Endeavor SA. But Collier, welcome and thanks very 25 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: much for your time. This is not a general fund, 26 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: as I understand it. You're looking to focus in particular 27 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: on high growth technology businesses. Tell us why that focus 28 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: and tell us what kind of success you're having, if 29 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: indeed you are good afternoon. 30 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: First, thanks so much for having me on the show, 31 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: and it's a real pleasure to be here. So our 32 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: Harvest Fund is a venture capital fund and absolutely spot on. 33 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: It focuses on investing in high growth tech businesses that 34 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: are standing globally but founded by a South African team 35 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,279 Speaker 2: or having the majority of their operations here in South Africa. 36 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: But these businesses are built for the global markets and 37 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 2: we specifically focus on the sector because this fund has 38 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: been set up to basically leverage the incredible network and 39 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: set up entrepreneurs we've got in our portfolio as Endeavor, 40 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 2: our global organization, but just focusing on our South Africa portfolio. 41 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: So Endeavor, just for a little bit of context, an. 42 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: It's an engineer that's been around for now close to 43 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: thirty years. Present in forty five markets globally. Our head 44 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: offices in the US in New York. We've got regional 45 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 2: offices in San Francisco, London, Dubai and Singapore, but we 46 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 2: focused on all the emerging markets. So here in South Africa, 47 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: our office has been open since two thousand and four 48 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: and for the last now five six years, we've set 49 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: up low call Harvest Funds to invest in the portfolio 50 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: of entrepreneurs that we already have and are working with 51 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: Endeavor in nor South Africa office. 52 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: So if I were to ask you a poster child 53 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:17,839 Speaker 1: from Harvest to or Harvest one, just so people can 54 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: actually picture the kind of company that you're investing in, 55 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: where they were when you found them and a match 56 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: was made, and where they might be now. 57 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: Yes, I think probably the eliest or the most well 58 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: known example from our portfolio here in South Africa is 59 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: Time Bank. So Time Bank like where we when we 60 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: first met up with Time Bank, it was unfortunately it 61 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: wasn't when they were initially received their investment from ARC. 62 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: It was two years after that, so it was in 63 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one twenty twenty two, and we started working 64 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: with Time Bank as endeavored the organization before we invested 65 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: in them, and endeavors here to really accelerate the growth 66 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: of businesses like Time Bank, because we know the positive 67 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: impact that a business like Time Bank has on our 68 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: local economy here in South Africa, driving revenue growth, creating jobs, 69 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: all on the back of private capital, and creating really 70 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: interesting returns for investors that then are recycled back into 71 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: our local economy. So we invested in Time Bank in 72 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: our Harvest Round two now, you know, close to four 73 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: years ago, and we've invested in multiple rounds, and specifically 74 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: in the case of Time Bank, we made the introduction 75 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: to between Time Bank and New Bank, which is one 76 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: of the largest digital banks in the world, and New 77 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: Bank led the round in December twenty twenty four which 78 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 2: was at evaluation of you know, one and a half 79 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 2: billion dollars and the round was two hundred and fifty 80 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: million dollars. So that's the type of support that Endeavor 81 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: looks to give to the businesses that we work within 82 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,679 Speaker 2: our right, you know, local global organization. But Time Bank, 83 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: you know, Time Bank is a wonderful success story here 84 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 2: in South Africa and you know, more recently they've launched 85 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: in the Philippines and a few other markets in Southeast 86 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: Asia and the growth is incredibly impressive. 87 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: If we were to sort of maybe look at the 88 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: last twelve months, maybe it's a shorter period, possibly slightly longer, 89 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: and the turbulence in the world and everybody saying, well, 90 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: you know, a, we've got to be more self sufficient. 91 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: But secondly, relationships that we've you know, presumed and built 92 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: expectations and plans, investment plans on maybe things that we 93 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: can no longer rely upon. It as the book I 94 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: think there was a book called He's just not that 95 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: into you anymore, And you know, we don't need to 96 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: say who that he might be. But on the serious notes, 97 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 1: I mean, with that kind of tariff related and general 98 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: global geopolitics turbulence, has this fun become even more important 99 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: as people look to form new relationships but also you know, 100 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: develop great and self sufficiencies. 101 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: So for sure, one of the reasons why US as 102 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 2: INDEAVN South Africa set up this VC fund is we 103 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: had this portfolio of incredible entrepreneurs we were working with 104 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,679 Speaker 2: here in South Africa and we knew there were turns 105 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: that they were delivering through to their investors, these private companies, 106 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: and so it made sense to set up our Harvest 107 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: Fund to also you know, generate some revenue through investing 108 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: in these businesses. But at the same time, like what 109 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: you're saying as the liquidity in the local market, right, 110 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 2: so introduce these businesses like what we did to New 111 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: Bank in the case of Time Bank, to the right 112 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: international investors to lead you rounds of capital that these 113 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 2: teams are raising and have the correct strategic investors investing 114 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: into this business. So when we say in summary, when 115 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: it comes to our Harvest VC Fund that we've set 116 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: up set up here in South Africa, it's it's absolutely 117 00:06:55,480 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 2: to stimulate the liquidity in our local market and really 118 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 2: high at that investment opportunity that sits in the space 119 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: for South African investors. Because we have really some exceptional 120 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: tech entrepreneurs that have set up their operations here in 121 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,119 Speaker 2: South Africa that built their businesses to serve the world 122 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: and our currency. We get great value for money and rights. 123 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: And if you're selling and dallas and your costs are 124 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: and rund you really generate very interesting returns and the 125 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: cost of these type of skills in the larger global 126 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: market is much more expensive, so there's really good cost 127 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: efficiencies that you can you can generate. 128 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Allison Collier, CEO of Endeavor SA 129 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: Harvest Fund three is just closed, and we'll follow with 130 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: great interest to see what companies and innovations and job 131 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: creation and wealth creation comes out of that. Hopefully it 132 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 1: will be abundant. Seven O two Drive