1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: You're with Clement Manya Tela on seven Let's walk the 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Talk streaming on the Prime Media plus ad DearS TV 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: channel eight five six ninety two point seven and one 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: O six FM. 5 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: Seven minutes after nine o'clock, Do Melan, Happy Friday. Welcome 6 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: to the Clement Nadia Show. How was your week? How 7 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: has it been? Mine has been quite hectic, It's been 8 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: quite hectic. I'm so glad it's a Friday, and my friend, 9 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 2: the fact that you're still here chilling with me right 10 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: now in your breathing is proved that you have survived 11 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: the week. So let's start with the seven O two 12 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: open nine, shall we? What are you grateful for this week? 13 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: We do this every single Friday. We call this Gratitude Friday. 14 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: This is where you can you take the opportunity to 15 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: show and express gratitude because it's important for us to 16 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: express gratitude. We have to cultivate the spirit of gratitude. 17 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: There's a whole lot of things that are not going 18 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: right in our lives and we need to learn to appreciate. 19 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: Whether it's the small wins or the big things, we 20 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 2: have to be able to appreciate them. So what is 21 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: it that you are grateful for this week? What happened 22 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: this week that put a smile on your face and 23 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: reminded you how blessed you are? Oh one eight eight 24 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: three oh seven oh two? What's up? Seven two seven 25 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: o two one seven oh two? What do you think 26 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: of the plea deals that the NPA has been getting 27 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: into of late with criminals. The latest one involves Steinhoff's 28 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: former executive, hein Onderdahal, who pleaded guilty to failing to 29 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: report fraud and as a result, he's going to avoid 30 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: four years in jail if he pays a two million 31 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 2: rand fine and doesn't reoffend. So, ladies and gentlemen, if 32 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: you have enough money, you can pay yourself out of jail. 33 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: Isn't this the message being sent out? This former Steinhoff 34 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: executive was found guilty of fraud. That's a serious crime. Huh. 35 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: He failed to report fraud which led to false and 36 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: misleading audited financial statements. That's a serious crime. He had 37 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: an additional two years imprisonment which were wholly suspended. He 38 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 2: will be subjected to his one year of correctional supervision. 39 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: I worry about the message being sent out through these cases. 40 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: Remember Angelo agreed he as well, the former PSAs executive. 41 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: He entered into a plea deal, pleaded guilty to three 42 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: counts of corruption, avoided jail. We're talking here about corruption 43 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: related to about one point eight billion rand on tenders 44 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: that Bossasa worn from the Correctional Services Department. What message 45 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: does this send out? And yes, I get it. Part 46 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: of the agreement is for him to testify against his 47 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: co accused. But surely you can structure the agreement in 48 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: such a way that the person still testifies against their 49 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 2: co accused, but also you reduce their sentence. Why can't 50 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: these agreements be structured like that? Oh wait, they actually 51 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: have been structured like that. When it comes to other criminals. 52 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: Remember Vincent Smith, we spoke about him two weeks ago, 53 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: the former A and CMP. He also pleaded guilty. He 54 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: entered into a plea agreement, but he still went to jail. 55 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: He is gonna be there for seven years. Remember Schifia Matozzi, 56 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 2: the formature person and kingping behind the collapse of the 57 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: VBS Mutual Bank. He also entered into a plea and 58 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 2: sentence agreement with the NPA. He pleaded guilty to thirty 59 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: three counds of corruption, theft, fraud, money laundering, racketeering, and 60 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: although the sentenced to a total of four hundred and 61 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: ninety five years in prison, the plea agreement resulted in 62 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: an effective fifteen year jail sentence, as many of the 63 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: sentences run concurrently. The point I'm making here is there 64 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 2: are instances where you can still get someone to set 65 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 2: some time in jail because that consequence management is important. 66 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 2: But then you just reduce their sentence from twenty years 67 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: to maybe fifteen or ten or five. But there's got 68 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: to be consequences. Isn't that a more balanced approach? And 69 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: you don't want a situation where people will think, oh, 70 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: it's got to do with the color of their skin. 71 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: You don't want that. In fact, someone while I was 72 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: speaking to the head of the NPA last night, sent 73 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: a tweet to ask, why does it look like it's 74 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: black people who enter a plea deal but they still 75 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: go to jail and there are other white people who 76 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: enter a plea deal but they do not wear orange overalls. 77 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: You don't want the scenario. And I'm not suggesting that's 78 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: the case because in fact, there are other people like 79 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: who's that guy fant Thunder who was the former VBS CFO. 80 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: You know, wait, fann Under was Bosasa? Yeah, fandunder wasn't 81 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: fantunder Bosasa. Let's see, I'm vantundre. Was it VBS or Bosasa? 82 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: Oh okay, Oh there's different. I think there was a 83 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: fundunder's at BOSASA, but there's also a fun under at VBS. 84 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 2: So the fandunder from VBS was actually a CFO and 85 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: he entered into a plea deal and I think he 86 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 2: ended up saving about three or four years if I'm 87 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: not mistaken. But at least you see that is also 88 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 2: more balanced. You don't want to create an impression that 89 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: the reach can pay themselves out of jail. I actually 90 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: put this question to the head of the NPA advocate 91 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 2: and Demitiv I spoke to him on the SABC last 92 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: night and this is how we responded to the question. 93 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: There are some South Africans who look at this and 94 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: things so people who've got money can easily escape accountability 95 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: in a sense because they can avoid going to jail. 96 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: And I know there are some people who are former 97 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: employees of Steinhoff who have been sent directly to jail. 98 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: But are you not worried that there's an impression created 99 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: here that people can enter into plea deals and avoid 100 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: jail and just pay their way out of jail, so 101 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 2: to speak. 102 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: Clement, I think you've really hit the head on the nail. 103 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 3: The nail on the head in terms of some of 104 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: the public perceptions. And if we have issued a statement 105 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 3: this evening and amongst others, we are saying, you know, 106 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: we take these cases very serious. As we reported this morning, 107 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: we actually said, you know, most of the corruption cases, right, 108 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: you find that there are enablers. And in our statement 109 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: we have said accountants, you know, and and and and 110 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 3: and and others. Right, this person as as I as 111 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: I understand from my colleagues, this person was in the 112 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 3: audit space, right, and and he failed to report matters, right, 113 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: That is a very serious you know, uh, indictment on 114 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 3: his part. It is expected, you know from auditors. You know, 115 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: we've seen it. We've seen it in the Zondo investigations 116 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 3: and some of the investigations that s i U has done. 117 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 3: We've seen that this this enablers really facilitate. So so 118 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 3: from that point of view, From that point of view, 119 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 3: these matters should be dealt with very very seriously. Now, 120 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 3: having said that, we are saying in the statement as 121 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 3: well that each case is dealt with on his own merit, 122 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 3: right so so so in this case, the the prosecution. 123 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 4: Team at a at the. 124 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 3: Director of Public Prosecution level in the houting North are 125 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 3: the one who were handling that right so so they 126 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 3: would define gauged with the with the with the accused 127 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 3: team and look at the circumstances of the case and 128 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 3: dimmed it. 129 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: Appropriate to accept the plea. 130 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 3: Uh and and and remember remember factors that looked into account. 131 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 3: One of them, of course is the public interest. Whether 132 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 3: it's in the public interest. Of course the public can 133 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: view it differently. But you know what I think this is, 134 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 3: this is an area which which requires you know attention, 135 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 3: right uh. Given given the perception that the under the 136 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 3: unintended you know consequence that it results into we've got 137 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 3: we had a matter that was reported I think last 138 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 3: week or so of the former parliamentarium Vince and Smith. 139 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 2: It was also please you know that case he's going 140 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 2: to jail for a bit. There we go. 141 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: You see, as I say, each case dealt with on 142 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 3: his own merit. That one had his own merits and 143 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 3: he ended up in jail. There's one had his own merit. 144 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 3: By the way, by the way, the two million, the 145 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: two million, it's two million. 146 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 4: Or four years if I if I. 147 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, So if he doesn't pay, he goes four years. 148 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: So that's what I'm the head of the NPA said. 149 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 2: If he doesn't pay two million, he goes to jail 150 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: for four years. I mean, come on, an auditor who's 151 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: been around for many years, of course they'll find two 152 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: million ran to stay out of jail. My worry is, 153 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 2: if I have enough money, I can just look the 154 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: other side and whenever I get arrested, I get into 155 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: a plea deal. I plead guilty and I offer to 156 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: pay two million Rand. You don't want to create an 157 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: impression like that. There must still be consequences when people 158 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: have been found guilty of serious crimes. There must be 159 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: very severe consequences, and that includes them spending a couple 160 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: of years in jail. 161 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 5: Clement Manya Taylor streaming on the Prime Media Plus. 162 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,479 Speaker 2: At DearS TV channel eight five six ninety. 163 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 6: Two point seven, and good morning, Clement. My measure, So 164 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 6: today's my mother's birthday, and I'm so grateful, Clement, like, 165 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 6: I am so grateful for this woman. I you know, 166 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 6: I don't even know how to. 167 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 7: Express my gratitude towards my mother for all that. 168 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 5: She has done for all seven of us. 169 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, so I am just so grateful. 170 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 6: I'm happy that she stole with us two years ago. 171 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 7: She was so sick that you know, it was touch 172 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 7: and gold. But with God's grace, she's still here. We 173 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 7: are celebrating her life. So I am so grateful. I 174 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 7: am so so grateful. 175 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 8: Good morning, Clement and listeners. I want to say thank 176 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 8: you this morning. I have so much gratitude for my sister, 177 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 8: for my family as a whole. They always look out 178 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 8: for one another. My sister, out of the blue, blessed 179 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 8: me this week, and I've been praying and saying, God, 180 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 8: am I going to get through this month? But wow, 181 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 8: she just called me and said, I'm gonna deposit some 182 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 8: money in your account without having to ask her. I'm 183 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 8: so grateful and I'm praying that God bless her. Thank you, 184 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 8: Clement for this wonderful show. I pray that you also 185 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 8: be blessed, and thank you for reminding us how to 186 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 8: be grateful for the small things for the big things. 187 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 8: I have a wonderful Friday. 188 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 4: Your voice, your station, your open line. 189 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 9: On seven teen one in Clement, Yeah, this sends a 190 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 9: very bad message and the conspiracy theories who say. 191 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 2: Justice system is for the rich. 192 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 9: I mean, we recently had a pharmacist who defrauded Jerm's 193 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 9: medical eight of ninety three thousand, and he was given 194 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 9: ten years direct imprisonment. This guy for his crimes has 195 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 9: find two million and coupled with a holy suspended sentence. Yeah, 196 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 9: doesn't send a very good message, but people hear. 197 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 10: From b Money. 198 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 11: Yes, Clement, morning, You're absolutely right because and this is 199 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 11: where we need full statements even from the SAU because 200 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 11: if this guy is a CFO, I mean, how much 201 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 11: did he accumulate over the years, As you correctly say, 202 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 11: if this guy was there for ten fifteen years, he 203 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 11: probably made well over two hundred million, and now he's 204 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 11: going to pay it would be one percent of what 205 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 11: he has benefited from as a slap on the risk. 206 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 11: So this is where we also need to understand it 207 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 11: SIU recover any illicit funds that he because I mean 208 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 11: it was complete dereliction of duty. He's not supposed to 209 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 11: get any pension or any keep any of the bonuses 210 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 11: and everything that he might have been rewarded with over 211 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 11: the years because of this absolute corruption where people lost 212 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 11: their pension. And this is what we need to understand 213 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 11: from these sentences. So, yes, the s you see these assets? 214 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, what is the fine? 215 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 11: And there probably needs to be this that minimum three 216 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 11: adjacent it's otherwise we're not gonna win this battle. 217 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 12: Brack punshop. I lement you know, I don't know. If 218 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 12: this guy is an auditor and he was accepted to 219 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 12: uphold a certain certain rules of his profession like accountants 220 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 12: would as well as auditors would, having licenses to operate 221 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 12: as one, what's his license revoked because he felt to 222 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 12: report a fraud that was happening even when he was auditing. 223 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 224 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 12: If he's not gonna go to jail, then he must 225 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 12: not continue as an auditor. His license must be revoked. 226 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 12: I don't know if I hit the head on the nail. 227 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if he what the processes. Maybe 228 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: we'll find out from an organization that regulates auditors whether 229 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: their consequences to that effect. I suspect there will be. 230 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 2: But the point here is there are people who see 231 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: fraud happen. In fact, they helped facilitate that fraud because 232 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: you know about it and you're keeping quiet. And in 233 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: this case, this is the man who was one of 234 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 2: the auditors for Steinhoff. What did he do when he 235 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: realized that there is fraud that's taking place? He failed 236 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: to report it. What did that lead to? It led 237 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: to false and misleading audited financial statements, which led to 238 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: billions being lost. That is quite serious. And to give 239 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: an option of four years or two million rand, I 240 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: don't know. I just don't think its sense the right man. Session. 241 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: We've spoken about this many many times, even when the 242 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: VBS guys were entering into p deals and they spent 243 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 2: three years in jail, then they're out. It's twenty six after. 244 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 4: Night, your boy, your station, your aunt in line, walked 245 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 4: at all. 246 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 2: I'm seven eighteen nine thirty two. Back to your course 247 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 2: on oh one, one eighty three or seven or two? 248 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 2: Lucky you call him from Kempton Park, Good morning. What 249 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: are you grateful for? 250 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 8: Oh? 251 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 10: Good morning, mister Clement. 252 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 13: Breadful for this? 253 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 10: Says this. 254 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 13: That's I quote from a Gurulin of all the places, 255 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 13: Abuline Traffic Department. What happened, Yes, that I was renewing 256 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 13: my license that's kind of expired. I popped in my 257 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 13: apartment was eight forty I popped in a twenty they 258 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 13: get me greatly assisted meat. Uh what's done in this? 259 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 13: And twenty minutes I was done? Wow, Oh what I picked? 260 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 13: They have got nice lady with the customer incentric behavior. 261 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: Is not why you loved the service like you because 262 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 2: they have nice ladies there. 263 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 13: One thing that I've upset the guys there they aren't 264 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 13: handsfulm it. 265 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: Lucky. Thank you for calling about that. Because we often 266 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 2: make noise about when service is not being rendered, well, 267 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 2: you know, when we are queuing for too long. So 268 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 2: we need to be fair. So when we see some 269 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 2: good services at traffic departments or at public hospitals or 270 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 2: these public institutions, we need to be consistent and say 271 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: this is how we become fair. We must report it 272 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 2: and say, oh, this is the good experience I got 273 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 2: and not only complains. So thank you for that. Kudos 274 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 2: to their licensing department in Tembisa. Kudos to you. Must 275 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: all give you raises. Yeah, especially the beautiful ladies there. Jimmy, 276 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: you call it Victoria. Good morning, Hey Jimmy, Ah, good 277 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: morning that Clement, Yes it is ahead. 278 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 10: Yeah. I would like to comment about, uh, the topic 279 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 10: about corruption and the people stealing money, et cetera. It's 280 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 10: just a pretty that the people in top positions like 281 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 10: Zooma for example. It's a typical example that this man, 282 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 10: there's so many cases against you, but he doesn't go 283 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 10: to jail. He's totally enjoining his freedom and all the 284 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 10: money that he stole from the government as well as 285 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 10: the state captured nonsense. I mean, uh, there's a lot 286 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 10: of projects that uh the people start uh in those 287 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 10: projects and they never finish and they run away with 288 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 10: the money. You know. There's a there's a typical example, Yeah, 289 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 10: in Lindwood Road in Victoria. I mean, I don't know 290 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:07,479 Speaker 10: if you're aware that they started the the implementation of 291 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 10: widening the road and all that, and it just stopped, 292 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 10: you know. And another typical example as well is in 293 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 10: in George in the Western Cape, if you come out 294 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 10: of the airport and towards towards towards Nisner, there's a 295 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 10: bridge there that it was started by a state capture 296 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 10: company and they haven't they haven't finished it in eleven years. 297 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 10: I mean, they take the money, they run away with 298 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 10: the money, and nothing happens. I mean, only the small 299 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 10: fry go to jail, but the big people with big connections. 300 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 10: They don't go to jail. What I would like to 301 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 10: say about all this, I just hope that Donald Trump 302 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 10: comes and do what it did in other countries. I 303 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 10: just hope he does that because I mean, it's only 304 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 10: sucks and in the government that are stealing and they 305 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 10: don't Kimbu So, I just Jimmy Trump comes to South Africa. 306 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: Jimmy, can I ask you one question, Yes, during the 307 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: Aparte eight era before nineteen ninety nineteen ninety, would you 308 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 2: still call Trump to come and deal with those crooks, 309 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 2: with those immoral people? Yeah, that system you will definitely. 310 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 10: Definitely the white oppresses should have been taken to books 311 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 10: as well. 312 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 2: How would you have liked that? What they must? They 313 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: should have acted like Trump has come abduct the president 314 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 2: now or yes? 315 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 10: In the should not only the president, everybody that is 316 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 10: related that is in his cabinet, that the whole bunch 317 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 10: of crooks. 318 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: Just take them and take them out to the US. 319 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 10: Well they should, They should go and get tried way 320 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 10: of law were in America and Russia in some way. 321 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: Which law allows for that, sorry, which law allows for 322 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: people who have made crimes in South Africa to go 323 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 2: and be tried in a separate jurisdiction in America. 324 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 10: But why not. I mean, there is an international court 325 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 10: of law as well that that permits that. I mean, 326 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 10: you know, I mean people can't just go and do genocide, 327 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 10: for example, and get away without the rest of the 328 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 10: world being cadding about it. You know. I'm so glad 329 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 10: that Trump went into Venezuela because that guy was oppressing 330 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 10: the people in such a way. I think what Trump 331 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 10: does is right, what he does, as well as the 332 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 10: other countries that is attacking now. I mean, those people 333 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 10: are are prisons, they're pressing their own people. I mean, 334 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 10: it's ridiculous what's going on. So I respect Trump because 335 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 10: he's a man with guts and is a man that 336 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 10: decided to do something about it. Well, Biden, what did 337 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 10: you do? He did nothing? You know, Well, he just 338 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 10: let the world go by doing whatever they were doing, 339 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 10: right or wrong, and he couldn't care a damn, you know. 340 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 10: So I think Trump should come to South Africa, and 341 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 10: not only to South Africa. Other countries that are taking 342 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,719 Speaker 10: advantage of the poor individuals and the poor people of 343 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 10: the country. They should be brought to book because, I mean, 344 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 10: South Africa does not belong to to Zooma doesn't belong 345 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 10: to anybody but to the people of the country, so 346 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 10: therefore it should come to South Africa. I mean, this 347 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 10: is ridiculous, what's going on in this country. I was 348 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 10: always against apartape, but this now it's not better. It's 349 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 10: not better. I mean, this is ridiculous. 350 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 2: Okay, Jimmy. 351 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 10: If there's a war in South Africa, do you know 352 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 10: that there's not even a fighter plane that is working. 353 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 10: There's no in the copters, nothing is everything is broken. 354 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 2: Well, that will be good for your friend Trump, right, 355 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: because it will make his job easy. Yes, all right, 356 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: Jimmy in Pettoria. Let me thank you, my friend, thank 357 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: you so much for calling President Trump. You've been called 358 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: to South African shows to do what you've done in 359 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 2: Venezuela and where else in Iran. 360 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 14: It's twenty two before Ted, good morning Cament. Regarding the 361 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 14: stain of auditor, Yeah, we might say maybe because he 362 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 14: didn't do prison time, but his life will forever be changed. 363 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 14: First of all, I assume that he's a chartered accountant, 364 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 14: so Syka has already taken that title off and he's blacklisted, 365 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 14: so you will never be able to work in the 366 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 14: financial services industry, unless maybe he has some sort of 367 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 14: business or whatever he is, he haars going on, but 368 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 14: his life will never be the same. And guys, two 369 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 14: million is not chump change. 370 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 15: Clement, Good morning and seven or two listeners. Clement, on 371 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 15: this issue of SIU r NPA of the Plea, I 372 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 15: have my cousin with his two colleagues. They webb Forseting municipality. 373 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 15: They used to eraise rent for people. Then two of 374 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 15: them went to play. They were sentenced to two years. 375 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 15: Then my cousin never went play. Then first forward when 376 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 15: they come back from j that's when she went for 377 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 15: play and she was She didn't went to JA like others. 378 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 15: Thanks Clement, anonymous from somewhere in South Africa. Thanks for 379 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 15: a good show. Clement, Good morning and seven or two listeners. Clement, 380 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 15: on this issue of si r NPA of the Plea, 381 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 15: I have my cousin. 382 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: With his two colleagues. 383 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 15: They web Forset Municipality. 384 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 16: Look, Clement, our peron is doing well to them. Greatful 385 00:25:54,600 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 16: that I broke my ten kilometer PV. I went from 386 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 16: one hour one minute to fifty two minutes. So oh, 387 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 16: I'm really grateful. It's a good day. 388 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 2: That's pretty That is pretty dope. From one hour, one minute, 389 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 2: ten kilometers to fifty two minutes. My goodness, that is 390 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 2: quite fast. Where did you Where did you break your PB? 391 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 2: Is it at the very same route you run it? 392 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 2: Or is it in different terrain? Because of course, when 393 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 2: you're running in for instance, Cape Town, it's much easier 394 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 2: to get a PB there, you know, because of the 395 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: other dynamics there. I'm interested, but well done. That's that's 396 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 2: pretty dope. From one hour, one not two minutes to 397 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 2: about fifty two minutes. That's amazing, bro, congratulations, it's nineteen 398 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: minutes now before ten o'clock. 399 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 4: Your voice, your station, your unt in line, both at 400 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 4: all with cal on seven. 401 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 2: Are you one of those people who blow their own 402 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 2: hunt hm? Or do you know people who like to 403 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: do that? I mean, there are some things that you 404 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 2: must get people to say about you, and not say 405 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 2: that about yourself. Millennia Trump was speaking yesterday at the 406 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: Women's History Month celebrations at the White House, and she 407 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: showered herself with praise. 408 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 17: Overnight, but rather take shape after a long and sometimes 409 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 17: challenging process, off and alone at the top, I follow 410 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 17: my passion, Listen to my instinct and always maintain a 411 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 17: laser focus in solitude, my creative mind dances. Filling my 412 00:27:54,480 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 17: imagination with originality, attention to detail, demanding schedules, and multitasking 413 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 17: are everyday realities when building towards success. The principle resonates 414 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 17: across all my roles as a mother, humanitarian, philanthropist, and entrepreneur, 415 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 17: as well as with my new film, where I shaped 416 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 17: its creative direction, served as a producer, managed post production, 417 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 17: and activated. 418 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 5: The marketing campaign. 419 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 17: Curiosity is a Q core value that keeps me ahead 420 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 17: of the curve. Curiosity Bagad's knowledge, opening doors to ideas 421 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 17: and industry that I have otherwise overlooked. This unrestricted mindset 422 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 17: has led me to build across very different sectors fashion, 423 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 17: digital assets, publishing, accessory, skin care, commercial, television, and of 424 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 17: course filmmaking. 425 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 18: MM. 426 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Often alone at the top which top, Yeah, I 427 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 2: got you, guys, But I'm ahead of the curve. Which curve? 428 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. But you know when you are going 429 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 2: to be a speaker somewhere and they do like a 430 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 2: whole profile. I'm often very uncomfortable about that. Like there 431 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: are people who actually are good to just sit there 432 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 2: and listen to someone say, this person is there. It 433 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: is an amazing architect. Having studied this and gotten this, 434 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: he has let the charts with this. I don't know. 435 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: And some people are comfortable with that, But to say 436 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 2: it to yourself, can somebody else at least say it. 437 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 2: I'm very uncomfort stable with that. If it's going to 438 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: be even said before I'm going to start work as 439 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 2: an MCU, I'm speaking somewhere. I'm very uncomfortable, like, just 440 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,719 Speaker 2: get there, just say my name and saying it, that's it, 441 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 2: and let me do the work. But some people want 442 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: to be the ones that saved themselves. I mean, much 443 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 2: like Trump. I mean, how many times has the US 444 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: president praised himself? 445 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 18: Eh, in fifty years a president that won, even a 446 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 18: popular president, somebody has done well. 447 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: I'm popular and I've done well. 448 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 5: I mean, I think we have the. 449 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 18: Greatest economy actually ever in history. We broke fifty and 450 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 18: we broke seven thousand. They said I wouldn't do that 451 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 18: for four years, and I did it in one year. 452 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 18: We have to get the word out, Okay, if we 453 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 18: can get the word out, we should. 454 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 2: He even said, oh man, you've got to love the Trumps. 455 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 2: Come you West. Also likes blowing his own hunt. 456 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 19: But we culture m hmm, wrap the new rock and roll. 457 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 19: We culture rap is the new rock and roll. We 458 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 19: the rock stars. It's been like that now for a minute. 459 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 19: It's been like. 460 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 4: That for a minute. He's the may. 461 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 19: It's been like that for a minute. 462 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: We didn't. 463 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 4: We don't real rock stars. 464 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: And I'm the biggest of all of them. I'm the 465 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 2: biggest of all of them. Do you know people like 466 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 2: that who like blow their own hands? Do you do that? 467 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 2: And what's the difference between doing so with pride pride 468 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 2: and doing so with a bit of humility, where you 469 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 2: just acknowledging how great you are. I've worked once with 470 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 2: a producer shall Hey, what if she's listening. She's no, 471 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: she didn't work here, it's before I came here. But 472 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,479 Speaker 2: she could be listening, So maybe I shouldn't tell the story. 473 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 2: Could she be listening? There's someone I worked with one 474 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: I won't say where. She used to tell us she's 475 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 2: beautiful every day, I'm beautiful. And we used to think, oh, wow, 476 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 2: her mum has raised a really confident girl. So we 477 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: were divided on it. Some people were like, wow, she's 478 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 2: like quite a confident girl. Which is great, and other 479 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 2: people were like, hm, is it confident? 480 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 8: So? 481 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 2: Is it just too much pride? So there are people 482 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 2: like that who actually do it because they're just confident. 483 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 2: Their parents raised them to be confident boys and girls. 484 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 2: But sometimes it really can be uncomfortable. How do you 485 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 2: balance it? How do you navigate that? Give me a call, 486 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 2: send me once a voice note your station, your I'm 487 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 2: it's ten minutes before ten. 488 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 20: Out luck, Hi, Clement. I have to say that listening 489 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 20: to what I can barely listen to him. But anyway, 490 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 20: Trump and various others are like, I don't know if 491 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 20: you know that book The Emperor with No Clothes where 492 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 20: somebody designed him a suit and it was no suit. 493 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 20: He was just walking around naked thinking he's still the Emperor, 494 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 20: thinking he is the king of the world and he's 495 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 20: walking around naked. 496 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: So from O a beer sport. 497 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 12: Clim it every Friday, I love to get you being 498 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 12: uncomfortable with. 499 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 2: People singing their own praises, And. 500 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 16: I'm wondering, how do you feel about people wishing themselves 501 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 16: happy birthday? 502 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: I've seen that a lot going around. 503 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 16: That makes me uncomfortable, but I guess it's self love 504 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 16: and by the way, it's. 505 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 2: My birthday today and here you are, we see yourself. 506 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 2: Happy bedthday. Okay, happy bedday. I don't know. I think 507 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 2: that's fine. Like, oh, I'd like to wish you have 508 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 2: been day to myself because maybe you're celebrating another year 509 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 2: right for me. I'm like, I mean, if you, if 510 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: you are the one declaring things for yourself, like this 511 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 2: former colleague of mine I told you about who used 512 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 2: to say I'm beautiful, and please stop asking me if 513 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 2: she was really beautiful, because that's the subject of another debate. Again, 514 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 2: that's for meat indicates to you that beauty maybe is 515 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 2: in the eye, but again, beauty isn't that beauty is 516 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 2: in the eye of the beholder, meaning you are the 517 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 2: one that can see whether you're beautiful. Behold at your 518 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: man Ganti is the one other person looking. So how 519 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 2: can you say I'm beautiful when we haven't told you that? Then? 520 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 2: So there was debate in fact, A yeah, the person 521 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 2: would think they are, but are they. I don't think 522 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 2: that people must wait for people, of course to tell 523 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 2: you if you're beautiful. I think you must just know 524 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 2: it and own it. But do you go around announcing 525 00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 2: I am beautiful. Then you force us to look and 526 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 2: make our own determinations. More of you, what's up? And close? 527 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 2: After this? 528 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 4: Your voice, your station, your anthem, nine both at all 529 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 4: on seven eighteen in the. 530 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 2: Five minutes before ten o'clock semi you're in century and 531 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: good morning, good one Kevin. 532 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 21: You know, if you know that you're good at something 533 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,439 Speaker 21: and you can pack it up, then go around blow 534 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 21: your on home. Why would for other people to do 535 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 21: it for you? Like, for example, can you West he's 536 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 21: the best and hip hop he's the best. He's better 537 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 21: than doctor three. 538 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 2: I agree, but I agree. 539 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 21: It's better than three. So the Cabins bruise on hod 540 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 21: as long as you can back it up. 541 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 10: Yeah, you can back it up. 542 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 21: You look at for example, two point used took two 543 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 21: packs pH you used to do their own one because 544 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 21: they were the best. Absolutely, Michael Jackson never did because 545 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 21: he was too much humbled. Why did you breaking up prevement? Yeah, 546 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 21: look at your Reachel right now. Compare yourself with no 547 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 21: adult sup presenters and if you find out you're better, 548 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 21: and that's from Monday, you must have doing your own No. 549 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no no no, You'll never hear 550 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 2: it from you'll never hear it from me. I am 551 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 2: uncomfortable with things like that. That's why even when I 552 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 2: work with producers, I always tell them, don't put up 553 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 2: voice notes that are praising me. I don't like that. 554 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 2: I don't want to be on the radio and I'm 555 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 2: hearing people say, oh dammit, you were amazing, you are 556 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:37,439 Speaker 2: Oh no, I don't like that. It's uncomfortable to me. Yeah, 557 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 2: so no, it's not gonna happen. But Samian Centurion, thank 558 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 2: you for your call. More of your assupts, good. 559 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 5: One and good one, and tell me how are you. 560 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 5: I hope that you will find things he claim your 561 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 5: compliments of the new year. I haven't sent a voice 562 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 5: with this year. Hey clear me. A friend of mine 563 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 5: told me a story. So she attended the funeral. It 564 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 5: was somewhere in the Northwest province. So my friend's like, 565 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 5: I was so confused. I was wondering, whose funeral is this? 566 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 18: You know? 567 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 5: So another reason why she attended the funeral she was 568 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 5: there to support a friend. And a friend is a doctor. 569 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 2: So now. 570 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 5: Every now and then the lady friend would stand up 571 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 5: the doctor and then she'll be like, yeah, you know 572 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 5: this funeral I did want to three, and my mom 573 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 5: and what what? And me in my sagery and my 574 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 5: what what? Got everything? Then it was about hey to 575 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 5: a point where by people were confused lives because the 576 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 5: mother or the daughter or the what what you know? 577 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 2: Good morning? Claims? Well, why do you blow my own? 578 00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 2: I do. 579 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:08,720 Speaker 22: More often than usually, But it's because I work with people. 580 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 22: I'm a Finnish instructor, and I've seen the results, and 581 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 22: I'll give them feedback and be like, you know, you 582 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 22: you really worked a competated first chasing you have really 583 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 22: really worked you You've you've shown up for yourself and 584 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 22: that's great. I got you say I'm I'm the best trainer. 585 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 22: I'm the good fitness instructor. 586 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 2: You know. 587 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 22: So there are two promos all one as much as 588 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 22: I see the results. This is epitres from Swaller. 589 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. Happy, how about let's give you a challenge. Come 590 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 2: and give me a six pack in four weeks and 591 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,399 Speaker 2: then we'll decide if and see if we can prove 592 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 2: that you're the best trainer. Ever, how about that? I 593 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 2: guess the compromise here is if you can back it up. 594 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 2: Maybe that's the compromise. If you can back it up. 595 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 2: Oh my dear, go ahead shower yourself with praise, but 596 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 2: if you really can't, maybe not