1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Want to step aside from that conversation for a while 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: and talk about the things we learn from teachers outside 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: of the classroom, because sometimes the most powerful lessons that 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: they impart don't happen in front of the chalkboard or 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: on the iPad. They happen through example. And at a 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: recent school assembly at Redham House in Constantia, a foundation 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: phased teacher named Kelly Owen made the kind of statement, 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: a deeply personal gesture, but one which I think symbolized 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: that kind of teaching and learning moment for her class. 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: Outside of the classroom, she shaved off her hair in 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: front of the entire school to help raise funds for 12 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: the Cancer Association. And it wasn't just about fundraising. It 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: was also, for Kelly, a personal statement honoring colleagues, parents 14 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 1: and friends affected by cancer and supporting those who are 15 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: currently fighting the disease. And what she did is set 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: up a back a Buddy page called how much is 17 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: your Teacher's Hair Worth? Well, to date, it's already raised 18 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: more than forty thousand rands. It turns out your teacher's 19 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: hair is worth a great deal and still counting. But 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: I suspet that even more valuable than the funds raised. 21 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: Was the message imparted to those kids watching. Kelly is 22 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: with me on the line, and I know it's breakup day, Kelly, 23 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: So thanks for making time to chat to us when 24 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: we could be fleeing for the hills. Welcome to the show. 25 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for birth, Thank you. 26 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: It wasn't just a fundraising stunt. I believe this came 27 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: from very personal, lived experience, not just for you, but 28 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: for your school community. Do you want to tell us 29 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: about the bigger context? 30 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? Or you know. I did it this thirteen years 31 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: ago with a bunch of colleagues at Atlantic Seaward when 32 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: one of our close colleagues was diagnosed and eight of 33 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: us stood in solidarity and showed who that we really cared. 34 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: And this year it just seemed right. Our school has 35 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: suffered some severe losses of staff and of parents, and 36 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: we've got a number of families who are journeying on 37 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: their cancer journey at the moment, and so it just 38 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: felt right, and it was something I was going to 39 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: do in solidarity and in memory of people close to me, 40 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: and so I thought, you know what, I have an 41 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: opportunity to make a difference and to show children one 42 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: of our school values of being courageous and having courage 43 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: and just showing what it means to deeply care and 44 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: have that powerful impact, to show people it's not just 45 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 2: my hair that to me doesn't really mean anything. It's 46 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 2: more the movement of or why I did it, And 47 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: so we can show people by our actions sometimes are 48 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: louder than words. 49 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Kelly, I mean you're a foundation phased teachers are 50 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: We're talking about very young children. Obviously, the bonus is 51 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: they're very impressionable children who are probably going to remember 52 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: this moment for the rest of their lives. But it's 53 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: also quite a tough conversation to have with young children, 54 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: for whom grappling with concepts like disease and mortality is challenging. 55 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: How did you explain to your Well, firstly, did you 56 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: explain in advance what you were doing. Did you have 57 00:02:58,639 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: a conversation with them? 58 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: Yes, so we did have a chat in our foundation 59 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: phase a family and to say, obviously this is not 60 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: something that you will want to run out and do 61 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: yourself at home. Please, this is a serious thoughts has 62 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: gone behind this, and I'm prepared to do that, so 63 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: please don't frighten your moms and dads. But I think 64 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: our children know they have seen the loss of teachers 65 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: close to them, and they have journeyed alongside their friends 66 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 2: whose parents are going through their cancer journey as well. 67 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: So sadly it's not something unfamiliar to our school. So 68 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: it was a way to say, you know what, all 69 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: of your moms and dads and friends and family who 70 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: are either on this journey or have been on this journey, 71 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: we are honoring them and we can raise funds to 72 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: help the broader community. As one of our school mottos, 73 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: we shall give back, And it's a wonderful way to 74 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: live that and to just show that something. Small donations 75 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: add up, and it's been really overwhelming seeing how much 76 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: support we've gained, and it's just awesome knowing that at 77 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: the end of the month we get to hand over 78 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: a large sum of money that is going to make 79 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: such a huge difference to so many different lives. 80 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: I mean, it is fantastic that you've already reached forty thousand, 81 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: Rad Kelly. As a matter of interest, have those been 82 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: mainly small contributions from individual pupils or families or friends. 83 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: And family and school community? So I think, yeah, there's 84 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: a large amount of obviously our school support, and then 85 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: just how people have networked and sent the link out 86 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 2: to friends and family and they have shown support as well. 87 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 2: And you're every little bit from your fifty rand makes 88 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: a difference. So it's been amazing to see. It's been 89 00:04:54,440 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: quite overwhelming reading some of the messages that's been taken heart. 90 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: Really I'm not doing it for me, so it's been 91 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: quite overwhelming in that sense. The support that I am 92 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 2: personally getting was a little bit overwhelming, but it's been amazing. 93 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: It's been an amazing journey in the last two weeks. 94 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: So Kelly, let me just say first of all, if 95 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: anybody comes in midway to this conversation and it's wondering 96 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: who you're listening to, Kelly Owen is a Foundation phased teacher, 97 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: so for those who don't know the current stages, those 98 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: are the little's of the school at primary school level. 99 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: She teaches at rhdham House, Constantia, and made the decision 100 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: to publicly shave off her hair in the school assembly 101 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: as part of a fundraising campaign for the Cancer Foundation 102 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: and as a gesture of solidarity with members of their 103 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: school community who've been impacted by cancer. Kelly, As you said, 104 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: the money is lovely and gratifying and absolutely wonderful that 105 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: people have contributed, but the knowledge that the message has 106 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: sunk home is what really makes the story special. Do 107 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: you want to tell us a little bit more about 108 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: what the what have said to you, about what they're 109 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: thinking about what you did. 110 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 2: Oh, it's been really gorgeous. I mean, obviously with the 111 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: foundation phase it's a different it's a different level. And 112 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: just getting all these little ones coming and saying thank 113 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: you for being brave and I appreciate and seeing living 114 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: that value of our school of being courageous has been 115 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 2: really awesome to see how they can understand that bravery 116 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: isn't just jumping into the swimming pool. Bravery isn't just 117 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: doing something new or challenging. It's having the courage to 118 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 2: be vulnerable. And I think shaving your hair makes you 119 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: incredibly vulnerable. So teaching in the mat has been wonderful 120 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: for them to see and listening to all those little 121 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: pieces of coming up to me and saying, wow, that's 122 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 2: been really awesome seeing how that little message has sent in. 123 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: On Wednesday when we did it, one of the teachers 124 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 2: with the announcement had said that this is something that 125 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: she is never witnessed before, and so to say to 126 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: the children that this is not something that usually happens, 127 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: this is not something you will remember this forever. 128 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think you might be seeing some new 129 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: haircuts coming back from the school holidays at the end 130 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: of night. 131 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: Don't blame me, don't blame me, But often we are 132 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: the We've got the broad shoulders. We'll take it. It 133 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: is because of me. 134 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you know, I'm asking because Killy. I'm particularly 135 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: some of the older pupils in the school, for whom 136 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: perhaps you know, this might lead to it a deeper 137 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: thought process beyond what you know. And as you said, 138 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: it's it's a different kind of communication to foundation phase, 139 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: to the older primary school, and obviously to older pupils 140 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: beyond that. But you know, it strikes me that some 141 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: of them might well go, you know what, if she 142 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: can do it, i can too, And I'll pledge some 143 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: money and and and join the campaign. And one hopes 144 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: that that will land well and with heartfelt intent in 145 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: their homes if they articulate that wish. But I'm thinking 146 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: it could make for a failure music. 147 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: The cancer Association does regular drives at various shopping malls, 148 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: and I'm sure there's going to be a lot more 149 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: spray painted heads. And for those who aren't brave enough 150 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: to shave, put those streaks of color in and make 151 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: your impression and your mark of solidarity and support. So 152 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: I would like to think that there will be more 153 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: families going and having their hair spread if they're not 154 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: brave enough to have it shaved. But I think just 155 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: seeing how our community has raised the money on the 156 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: back of body, we have had so many families step 157 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 2: forward and go wow, here, yeah, we in solidarity to 158 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: those who are on the journey. 159 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: And if anybody listening to this interview wants to do 160 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: the same. That Backer Buddy page is still up and 161 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: you are searching for the campaign called how much is 162 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: your Teacher's Hair Worth? And obviously any contribution is welcome. 163 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: It all goes to the Cancer Association. Kelly, how long 164 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: are you keeping that campaign open until? 165 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: I think it's probably going to be running until after 166 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: the school holidays, Okay, Okay, so it is all the 167 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: beginning of until April into April. 168 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: Okay, So do you go into back a buddy if 169 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: you'd like to make a donation. Jillian writing in to say, 170 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: what a wonderful gesture. Was your hair long enough to donate? 171 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: She wants to know so. 172 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 2: The hairdresser who shaved my head to collect it all. 173 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 2: We're not sure if it's long enough to put away 174 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: just to my shoulders, but apparently they can use it 175 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 2: for fillers in weaves, okay, And so it wasn't thrown away. 176 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 2: It will be put to good use. Sadly, it wasn't 177 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: long enough to plat and make a full wig, but 178 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: it will be sent away and if they choose to 179 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: use it, they've got it. 180 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: And that's fantastic as well, because that is another aspect 181 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: of these conversations that is so important in terms of 182 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: what it means to the cancer survivor who's living with 183 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: the hair loss that goes with it. It can be 184 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: so hugely important. It's a wonderful gesture, Kelly, and more importantly, 185 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: I think it's a wonderful learning moment for your pupils 186 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: with so much depth to it. Thank you for doing it, 187 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: but thanks also for making time to chat to us 188 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: when you should be putting your feet up and starting 189 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: your school holidays, and our very best wishes to you 190 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: and also for the success the ongoing success I should 191 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: say of the fundraising campaign, thank you. 192 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 2: I appreciate your tom Thank you. 193 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: Kelly Owen speaking to us the Foundation Phase teacher at 194 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: Redham House, Constantia