1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Less it another big interview Top forty are wety it's 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: a KFM Top forty. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 2: My name is Carl Wasty, And as promised, I brought 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: in one of our friends who has been here a 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: couple of times for a number of singles. But finally, 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: this is a whole EP that has just dropped. It's 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: called Not the Same, and we have our same old 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: incredible individual a Nika Keana in studio. 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 3: Hello, good morning, Hello, how are you fantastic? 10 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: And congratulations on the EP? 11 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: I feel like I've listened to three quarters of it though. 13 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, yep, those ones you've heard already, yes. 14 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: I have, but the other ones are interesting. This is cool. 15 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: I had an idea, It's just a crazy idea. But 16 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: the before we get into it, I feel like we 17 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: should have a proper listening session where I want to 18 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: play a clup of the song and then I want 19 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: you to back it up with something interesting about the 20 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: recording of it, like how long it took it to 21 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: write and the recording, and I feel like that's important 22 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: for the entire project. But before we get here, Not 23 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: the Same was it the focus? When you came here 24 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: to drop you know, just any other Way or Little 25 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: Boy Ego. At any of those tracks, did you know 26 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: it's going to be an EP? No? 27 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 4: So I actually wanted to release an EP the beginning 28 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 4: of this year, but I felt like the songs just 29 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 4: weren't matching summer. Really, it was kind of like slow songs. 30 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 4: So I gave it a miss and I was like, no, 31 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 4: let me just keep releasing singles. And then after getting 32 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 4: such great feedback from any other Way, Little Boy Ego, 33 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 4: One Taste kissed me hard, they all kind of sound 34 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 4: good together, so I was like, let me actually consider 35 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 4: putting out an EP. 36 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: I always find. 37 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 4: It to be such a risk because I feel like 38 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 4: promoting a body of work is so much more difficult 39 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 4: because you're not just promoting one song. So I felt 40 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 4: like it would be kind of daunting, and I kept 41 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 4: avoiding it, avoiding and avoiding it until my producer and Managerryana, 42 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 4: she sort of was like, no, come on, let's actually 43 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 4: think about this. These other songs you've worked on, they 44 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 4: sun't great with these songs that you already have art, 45 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 4: why not just consider it? And then yeah, that's pretty 46 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 4: much what happened, and I was like that makes sense. 47 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: I called it, Yeah you did. I did a long time. 48 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 2: There was something very unique about this Not the Same 49 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: EP because I love the cover art and I feel 50 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: like there's something connected to that because there's the cutest 51 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: picture of you that I've ever seen in my entire life. 52 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 2: You even had your hands over each other over it. 53 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: It was so darn How old are you in the picture? 54 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 4: I was about five years old? 55 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: Oh so cute. 56 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 2: So why was that picture chosen? Why I'm not the 57 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: Same as a title of this EP was a connected? 58 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 4: Yes, it definitely was connected. So after writing the song 59 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 4: Not the Same, the song just felt so special to 60 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 4: me and it was finally a song that was about 61 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 4: me and like how I feel about life. Besides for 62 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 4: love and heartbreak and those kind of things, it was 63 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 4: something that I felt was the most me. It's about 64 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 4: feeling like time's running art. You know, there's not enough 65 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 4: time in the day to do things, and we're growing 66 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 4: up and I just wish I was a kid again. 67 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 4: And so I was like, why don't I make that 68 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 4: the title track of the EP. 69 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: Let's let me call the. 70 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 4: EP Not the Same because all of these songs sort 71 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 4: of relate. I mean I'm going through heartbreak and dealing 72 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 4: with falling in love and those kind of things, all 73 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 4: things that you don't experience as a kid, you know, 74 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 4: you just you live so freely as a kid as 75 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 4: you grow up when you're an adult to deal with 76 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 4: such heavy things and stress, And so I wanted to 77 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 4: sort of make the EP about the fact that being 78 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 4: an adult is tough and we wish we could just 79 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 4: go back. I'm sure many of us, not just me. 80 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 4: And yeah, that's why I decided to make the cover 81 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 4: of the picture of me when I was younger, and 82 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 4: then I followed it up with another picture on Instagram 83 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 4: of me twenty years later, sort of tried to take 84 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 4: a picture with the same using the same school background. 85 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 4: And yeah, it's crazy to think that that was twenty 86 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 4: years ago. 87 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: Twenty years ago, Mad twenty years ago, Shore twenty years ago. 88 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: I was nineteen, that's crut. 89 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 4: I was five. 90 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: We're doing a quick EP play. Are you ready? Yes? 91 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: Love it? Okay, So this is how it's going to go. 92 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: What I'm looking for after each song is for you 93 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: to give me a little interesting fact about it. So 94 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: let's start with number one. Only your new EP, not 95 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: the same wish not thanks, all right, Dreaming go, Well. 96 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 4: The title of the song makes it sound like it's 97 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 4: this I don't know, sort of happy song, because I 98 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 4: feel like you sort of link the word dreaming of 99 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 4: something positive. Yes, but it's actually not that I'm telling 100 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 4: this person that I'm speaking to. You think you can 101 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 4: have it all, You think you can have me and 102 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 4: and this amazing life, but you actually can't. You must 103 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 4: be dreaming. Although the song has a positive sound to it, 104 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 4: it's actually me tuning the person. 105 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: Essentially tuning the person. That's the whole idea. Good. 106 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: Now, a couple of tracks that we have heard, and 107 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 2: I think from number two all the way through to 108 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: number five, like these are songs that we have heard 109 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: on K from ninety four point five and has been 110 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: charting on the K from top forty as well, which 111 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 2: is cool. So we're gonna run through them as quicker 112 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 2: little clips. But I'm still looking for interest pieces from 113 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: you for this one, like any other way way. 114 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 4: In fact, the guy that actually mixed and mastered it, 115 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 4: he used to be in South Africa, but he actually 116 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 4: lives in Los Angeles, so I thought that's really cool. 117 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 4: I mean, it literally got mastered in America. So yeah, 118 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 4: I feel like that's a cool fact. 119 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: That is a very cool thing. It's mastered in America. 120 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: And then, in fact. 121 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 4: This was I think my sort of state being stone 122 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 4: into that pop punk edgy error. So I think this 123 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 4: is the song that pretty much led the way for 124 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 4: the others. Yeah, sat, I think this song literally took 125 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 4: maybe two sessions to make, maybe even in one. Yeah, 126 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 4: it was really really quick. We just had so much 127 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 4: fun with the song. 128 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: So he left there. Yeah, yes, I. 129 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 4: Really had fun with this one and kissed me hard. Yeah, 130 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 4: it was so much fun. 131 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 3: Kiss me hard. Fact, kiss me So. 132 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 4: I was doing a bunch of dancing videos as promotion 133 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 4: for it on Instagram, like we were dancing public and 134 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 4: things like that. Yeah, and one of the videos got 135 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 4: half a million views, So I thought that was really interesting. 136 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 4: I think in a store, o yea store, No, not 137 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 4: that one. 138 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, let's go to the bonus track on this 139 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: particular album EP, everything fades away, very emotional. 140 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 4: Yes, very yeah, it almost didn't make the EP. What Yeah, 141 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 4: I think that would be the interesting fact. 142 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,559 Speaker 2: That Okay, well you know what, congratulations honestly, and I'm 143 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: always so proud of you for doing what you do 144 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: for saying true to who you are. And then the 145 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: journey it's been since we've chatted, from single number one 146 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: to now you have an hold EP, like, I really 147 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: feel like I've been part of this journey and I've 148 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,679 Speaker 2: been so proud to watch you grow and get better 149 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: and better vocally confidence like just it's so cool, and 150 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: I'm not done supporting you yesterday, you know, thanks so much. 151 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: Before we play this song in its entirety and say goodbye, 152 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: I want to get a proper intro to not the 153 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: same and why it's now become your favorite one in 154 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: the EP. 155 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 4: So I wanted to create a song that sounded like 156 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 4: it was made in the two thousands, that it would 157 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 4: be featured on like one of those you know, those 158 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 4: old high school Disney films, or yes, just in general, 159 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 4: like one of those one of those throwback films that 160 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 4: make you feel good, those feel good films. And oh, 161 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 4: this is actually so funny. I just remembered. So I 162 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 4: was walking in the shops and the way the song 163 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 4: came about was our sense of voice notes to Ariana, 164 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 4: and I said, cool, the song has just come to 165 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 4: my head. I suppose looking for chips. I'm like something 166 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 4: is in my head and I have to send it 167 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 4: to you. I'm like, okay, I need a guitar. To god, no, 168 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 4: she was like, what are you even saying. She's like, 169 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 4: let's get into studio. I don't understand what you mean. 170 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 4: So oh, like, I just want you to play that 171 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 4: on guitar, and it's was like, okay, cool. I think 172 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 4: We've got into studio that day or the next day. 173 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 4: And then yeah, it just came together really really easy. 174 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 4: I think that took maybe two sessions as well. And 175 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 4: I felt like so happy when I was making it. 176 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 4: It just made me feel like it made me feel like, 177 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 4: I don't know, youthful. I mean I still am young, 178 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 4: but yeah, it made me feel like a scene again, 179 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 4: if I can put it that way, which was so 180 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 4: so awesome, And I think it's always great when you're 181 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 4: making music to feel that and to feel so connected 182 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 4: to a song as well, because a lot of the 183 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 4: times you can get so caught up in, you know, 184 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 4: just banging out the next track. For this one was 185 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 4: really really cool to have actually enjoyed that process. And 186 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 4: I think I've got studio footage of it as well. 187 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 4: You can see I'm actually the both of us are 188 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 4: having so much fun making this track, so yeah, this 189 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 4: is this is my song not the same and the 190 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 4: title song for the EP. 191 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: All right, so here it is titled track not the 192 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: Same EP out now st met support vocals from the 193 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: local goals. It is here for you, Anika Keana brand new. 194 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: Come on