1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: With me in studio is Martin Vandersberg, who is back 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,279 Speaker 1: to update us on his progress on the big project 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: of reinventing, not reinventing, reinvigorating, I think is the word. 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: The oldest pub in Cape Town, certainly possibly in the country, 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: Perseverance Tavern, Percy's, as everybody likes to call it, And 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: I was looking back in my notes this morning and 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: realized how much has changed in the last two years, 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: because we last spoke to Martin in twenty twenty four, 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: early June twenty twenty four, when he came into studio 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: to tell us about the passion project he had taken 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: on of taking a venue that was absolutely iconic in 12 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: its time, but that had been through a rough time, 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: and Martin spoke to us about his passion for the 14 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: history of the place and what he hoped to do there, 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: and we thought we check in with him today. Two 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: years on, a lot has changed. There's been a lot 17 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: happening in the area around him, There's been a lot 18 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,959 Speaker 1: happening inside the doors of the Perseverance Tavern, and it's 19 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: a great pleasure to have Martin back with us to 20 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: update us. Welcome back and firstly delighted to say Percy's 21 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: still going strong. 22 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Thank you so much, Proper, thanks for having me, 23 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 2: and let me just tell Lynn she's welcome. We have 24 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: a lovely brie area at the back if I can 25 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: plug that quickly, No, we really do. Out of the 26 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: back section, We've got an awesome courtyard and a huge 27 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: brye which has actually got a retissey. We can do 28 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: a spit day and we get a lot of customers 29 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 2: that come and they do their own bring and bry 30 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: all we bry for them, but not to plug that. Y'ah. 31 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Proper. You know, the way you introduced 32 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: me and I is exactly the way we feel. It's 33 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: like we're custodians of a very special property and a 34 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: very special restaurant with a very special here heritage and history, 35 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: and it is the oldest in the country eighteen o eight. 36 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: And I wanted to just start by revisiting that date 37 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: because a lot of people mistakenly think it started in 38 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: eighteen thirty six because that's the date on the facade, 39 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: but the pub itself has been going since eighteen oh eight. 40 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: Yes, so we've changed that for something, just to tag 41 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: away that confusion. I can explain it very briefly, the 42 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: first liquor license, the first tavern liquor license in the 43 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: Western Cape, issued to the Perseverance in eighteen thirty six, 44 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: but in fact they've been trading as a tavern since 45 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: eighteen oh eight, So it was established in eighteen o eight, 46 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: built in eighteen o eight, and started training as a 47 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: tavern in eighteen oh eight. The thirty six is just 48 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: the issuing of the license. I'm still trying to get 49 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: a copy of that license. Tried Western Cape Liquor Board, 50 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: if there's anybody out there that can help be It 51 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: is the first liquor license ever issued in the Western Cave. 52 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: Sure, so that's a really historic document. Yeah, I agreeed, 53 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: would be wonderful to be able to frame that and 54 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: have it hanging in Percy's because I mean, there's so 55 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: much in this space that is of historic value and 56 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: heritage value, including the bar itself hundred percent. 57 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: I can run through the beautiful so oh, I've got 58 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: to tell you so much. So since we spoke, we 59 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: did a little bit of a renovate, which was including 60 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: moving the pizza ovens. In fact, I built two new 61 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 2: pizza ovens at a back section because the current pizza 62 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: oven was in the wrong place, was down in the 63 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: smoking section. But in the process of this last renovate, 64 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: we've uncovered original walls made of literally slate and sandstone 65 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 2: and whatever materials would have been found literally on the 66 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: on the beaches of Woodstock probably and we're going to 67 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,839 Speaker 2: have that authenticated as well and tried to date that. 68 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: What I've done is I've got a little perspects cover 69 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: to expose that. So coming back to that, So the 70 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: building itself eighteen oh eight. The jan best Lot who 71 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: started Perse's at that time was a semen on the 72 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: with the Dutchest India Company. When Dutchest India Company was 73 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: no more when the Bridge took over, so to speak, 74 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: he fell in love with Cape Town and he didn't 75 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: want to go back to when he in fact he 76 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: was German, but his wife was Dutch, didn't want to 77 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: go back to Europe, and so they started the tavern. 78 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: In terms of heritage, Simon vander Stell's wine barrels and 79 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: that's again has been authenticated. It is, you know, whatever 80 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: the term is for, proven that it comes from that era. 81 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: So the bar is made out of oak barrels that 82 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,119 Speaker 2: came out of that era. The Simon for Nostalia, which 83 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: is phenomenal, incredible what the early seventeen hundreds, late sixteen hundreds. 84 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: Even so, the bar is older than the tavern, effectively 85 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: hundred in terms of what it's made of. The other 86 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: incredible part of the story is the vine. I think 87 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people will remember or a snippet or 88 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: have a sense of remembering that there was a bit 89 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: of the original one of the oldest vines in the 90 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: cape that was growing there. Remind us what's happened there. 91 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: Again, there's a lot of different opinions on that, if 92 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: I can, because the vine that was there was always 93 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: considered the oldest vine, predating the Droste Vine by about 94 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 2: thirty years, and it did die. The vine died, and 95 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: we've resurrected and were not resurrected. We got vintners from 96 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: Stalemosh to assist us. We dug up the whole courtyard 97 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:58,239 Speaker 2: section and have managed to revitalize or reinvigorate or regrow 98 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 2: let's call it a new sh from that original vine stem. 99 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: And but there have been you'll see I think one 100 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 2: to think of the place's name. But the Heritage Square 101 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: I think have also in recent past determined that the 102 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: vines in their area are very old. So you know 103 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: that that's not something that we we sort of certainly, 104 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: except you say that the original vine that was there 105 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: has been regenerated. It's a new spout and you'll see 106 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: it's doing beautifully. So now it's third it's what I've 107 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: I'm in my third year now, So we did. That 108 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: was the very first thing we did, before we even 109 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 2: lifted a brick or changed anything. As I went straight 110 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 2: to that area to see if we could get that 111 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: vine back. So that is fantastic. Hereatage as well. And 112 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 2: as you know, you know the building you just walk 113 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: in and you must come please, because now we are 114 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: ready to welcome guests. We've been through a few few 115 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: renovates and so on, but you just you can't recreate 116 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: that authentic old vibe. You walk into that building and 117 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 2: you just know you're in an eighteen hundred and eight 118 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: built building. The building is exactly the same. It's a here, 119 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: it's it's there's been a little bit of an extension 120 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 2: in the mid two thousands, but other than that, it 121 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: is still the original. I wanted to say brick and mortar, 122 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: but I don't think it is brick and mortar. It's 123 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: the original sandstone and whatever the building materials were of 124 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 2: the time, very very sturdy structure. We've actually obviously replaced 125 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: things like plumbing and so on, but the building itself, 126 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: one hundred percent facade, exactly the same as. 127 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: It was as it was when it opened in eighteen eight. Now. 128 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Martin, I was looking back in my notes, 129 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: and I mean the last time we spoke, it was 130 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: very very early days. You had just taken over. You 131 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: didn't even have the kitchen running yet. You were talking 132 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: about wanting to show a couple of football games, but 133 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: you didn't even have a DStv connection set up yet. 134 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: I mean, here we are, fast forward the clock, almost 135 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: two years later. I've and running and thriving. I gather one. 136 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: Percent open seven days a week. In fact, we're about 137 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 2: to start opening much earlier for breakfast from next week. 138 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: So kitchen's good. It's great good pub food. You know, 139 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 2: it's good quality, good pub food. Yeah. These TV's brand 140 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: new TVs throughout. So we've we've done all of that, 141 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: and and I think we've also lifted the image slightly. 142 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: I changed the bathrooms. We've retiled and done, but a 143 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: lot of the work we did. Actually, people walking said, well, 144 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: it doesn't really look much different because it's not. It 145 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: was more maintenance, necessary maintenance, you know. But yeah, one 146 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: hundred percent, seven days a week and we're loving it 147 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: and we're thriving on it. In Cape Town, it had 148 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: such a pleasure to be in this industry. In Captain. 149 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: We had yesterday yesterday had two Norwegian people that came 150 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: specifically to see me, well, to see the pub and 151 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: then asked if I was there, had a chat because 152 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: they found it on their bucket list there to do list. 153 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: They wanted to come and visit. Percy's the oldest bog. 154 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: Coming the oldest inside. 155 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: They had a great time. Fact, we had music going 156 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: and a bry actually, and they just slotted in beautifully 157 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: and they're doing a quick wine tripped down to her 158 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: gallus and there were vineyards and then they said the 159 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: first thing they're doing is coming back. So yeah, we're 160 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 2: very blessed. And I go back to really meaning it 161 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: that we blessed. You know, I just see myself as 162 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: the custodian of that building for this period and it's 163 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: fantastic to do that. You know, if you go back 164 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: to where's the pig and whistle that gone? And if 165 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: you all those the wonderful pubs and things we had 166 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: on in Seapoint Charlie Parkers, I don't know. I won't 167 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: remember all of them, the coach House at Sportsman's. And 168 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: if you think of all the pubs that have closed 169 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: over the years and then changed, and often the buildings 170 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: get rebuilt with a whole new, modern, different look, and 171 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: I can honestly say Percy's has still got that same 172 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: Percy's look and feel. I've got to have a plug 173 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: for old Kevin. I don't know if you were ever 174 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: there when Kevin du Prayer he started playing there in 175 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 2: the nineteen eighties and he's still playing for you. Last 176 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 2: Saturday he played full house, packed house. My very good friend, 177 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: brilliant musician is playing again on the twenty seventh and 178 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 2: twenty first and twenty eighth, so he plays there twice 179 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: a month. So yeah, we're just very blessed. I can't 180 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: tell you how grateful we are that we got through 181 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: a bit of a tough time. It was. I think 182 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: a lot of Percy's that hard knocks came after COVID, 183 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: like many other pubs, and they never recovered, and I've 184 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: been fortunate, you know too. I've also got a financial 185 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: partner way and who has helped me. So we've we've 186 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: been very fortunate to build what we've got to get 187 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 2: it back to what you said, up and running and thriving, 188 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: and let's look forward to the next couple of years, 189 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: you know. 190 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just so thrilled that it worked, because 191 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: I've got to be honest that last time you walked 192 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: out the studio, I was like, I really hope this 193 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: is going to work. But I have to confess I 194 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: had some doubts because it was still feeling very touch 195 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: and going a lot of work to be done. But 196 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: I know the area around you has also had a 197 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: bit of a breath of fresh air breathed into it 198 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: in terms of sort of cleaning. And so for those 199 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: who've never been by the way, what number of Batman 200 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: eighty three baton cunt is where you'll find them. So, 201 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: I mean that hole inner city area has been revitalized 202 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: in terms of the offering. You've got a lot of 203 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: competition in the neighborhood in terms of restaurants and coffee shops, 204 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: and people have a lot of choice. If it's an 205 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: office worker who wants to go somewhere different for lunch 206 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: or a drink off to work, et cetera. There's a 207 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: lot going on. But what you have that is so unique, 208 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: and it's all of those competitors, as lovely as they 209 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: all are, is that story that you were the very 210 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: very first and if I. 211 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 2: Can es firstly, well thank you for mentioning that, because 212 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 2: a lot of people aren't aware that the entire bat 213 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 2: and Kunt Street has literally been cleaned up. We've got 214 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: our own c ide, We've got you know, it's just 215 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: I mean, people pop right outside the door, and and 216 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: and and that's important because it wasn't like that for 217 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: a long time. If I can have another little plug, 218 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: another little we I'm a master distiller and we've made 219 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 2: there for years and Proces has now got its own 220 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: wines branded as its own wine made by the by ourselves. 221 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: You know, we were a range of tequila and things. 222 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: So we apart from the just the public experience, it's 223 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: it's and many of the guests want to do that, 224 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: you know, they want to take something, take a piece 225 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 2: of the heritage home with them, and so we were 226 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 2: able to offer them that on some of the products 227 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: that we that we sell. So yeah, we've again blessed grateful. 228 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: It's been tough, and you rightly say as you say, 229 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: it's it's the competition, and that's wonderful in a city. 230 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 2: The East City is fantastic. There's some wonderful pubs and 231 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: restaurants there pre Street, Cliff Street. There's such a vibe 232 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: that we have got some unique as you said, all 233 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: those unique items and we are a little bit on 234 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 2: our own if you like. As you go up a 235 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 2: Rowland Roland Street to Garden Center with only. 236 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: Pub on the in that section. 237 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, except to say the Kimberley by the way, there's 238 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 2: a change coming at the Kimberley Hotel is yeah. I 239 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: don't want to speak out of turn, but there is. 240 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: There's a revamp and a regeneration of the Kimberly Hotel 241 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: coming soon. 242 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: As they famously say, a rising tide lifts all ships, 243 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: and it's wonderful to see that that tide. It's very 244 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: pertinent I think to the keptat location as well modern 245 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: We wish you all the best. A message from David 246 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: saying what a legendary place and Kevin a gem of 247 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: a musician, so David one of those who is very 248 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: very happy to see Percy's back and operating at full strength. Last, 249 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: because we must head over to the news team. If 250 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: somebody wants to come and pay you a visit Facebook. Facebook. 251 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: Facebook is an ego to place to communicate my numbers 252 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 2: on there and yeah we take bookings, all my numbers 253 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: and emails, but just Perseverance tab and Facebook and Papa, 254 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: You're so kind, thank you for giving us the chance 255 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: to share this bit of heritage and history. It is, 256 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: it is iconic and we're very proud. 257 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: Well, I was so delighted that you've made at work. 258 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: Martin Vondersberg of the Perseverance Tavern, all the best to 259 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: you and the team.