1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Gavin. Hello, Right, we've got Gavin on the lone. Hello, Gavin, Hello, Hello, Hello, 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Sorry it's I'm a little bit doo lally this morning. 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: I'm not sure why I thought you were on the zoom, 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: but you're here. That's good. How are you gg? 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: Yes, pretty good. It's cold here again. The grass is 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: white outside. There's been another frost so it's still going on. Yeah, 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: but we do have some warmer weather up to sixteen 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 2: and seventeen in these cold nights. 9 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: That's going to be positively balmy for you. Then. I 10 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: had a high of forty three in my back garden 11 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, Gavin. 12 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: Oh, oh that's too much, yes, Drake, No, No, it's delightful. 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: It reminded me really yeah. Oh I love it me. Oh, 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: I love it, Gavin. It reminded me of my Dubai days. Honestly, 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: absolutely love it. And I'm lucky enough to have a pool, 16 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: so it was just me and the kids were in 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: the pool a lot. Yeah. I mean, I know it's 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: not for everybody that the highs of that, but I 19 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: really really like it. 20 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 2: I do. 21 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan of the 22 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: warmer weather. I know, I know all right, gosh, I 23 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: mean it's news wise. You know, it's all go, isn't it. 24 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: And so we're going to start with US President Donald 25 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: Trump asking France in the UK to send warships to 26 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: the Strait of Hormors, which we've been hearing an awful 27 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: lot about. Give us the latest on. 28 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: That, if you would, Yes, that's right. So this, of 29 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: course was an operation of military operation that Donald Trump 30 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: said would be over in a week. We're in week three. 31 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: Last week we were reporting WESJA that he had scolded 32 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: the UK for trying to join the war, as it 33 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: were the conflict too late, saying we don't need your ships. 34 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: You're too late. Thanks very much, but you're too late. 35 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: We won, And here we are another week on and 36 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: now he's pleading with the UK and France to send 37 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: ships along with South Korea and Japan and China to 38 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: try to keep the straight of Horn moves secure. Now, 39 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: of course, this is a key shipping route. We are 40 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: all seeing petro prices skyrocket we are here in the UK. 41 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: They've gone up considerably, doing a little bit of mass. 42 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: We normally pay about one pounds thirty for a liter 43 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: of petrol, so that comes out roughly at what's that 44 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: to twenty six South African rando about thirty South African 45 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: rand elita, But it's gone up about I suppose five 46 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: ten percent in the last week and shows no sign 47 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: of slowing down. So we've all got these issues, and 48 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: of course they're all led by the fact that he 49 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: took action against Iran and now he's asking for help, 50 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: which is odd having rejected it. So many people are 51 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: beginning to think what sort of a master plan did 52 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: he have at the start, Why did he think it 53 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: would only take a week, etc. Now we don't know 54 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: whether the UK France are going to join in. The 55 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: UK government says it is looking at all options. In 56 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: other words, it's thinking, oh, Craig, yeah, wish he hadn't 57 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: asked us, And we'll wait to see whether they're going 58 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: to send anything. Now they have already staid a couple 59 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 2: of ships. They have sent quite a few typhoon aircraft, 60 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 2: but that was to protect the military base in Cyprus 61 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: in the Eastern Mediterranean, which has already been attacked by 62 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: an Iranian series of drones. But are they going to 63 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: send more ships in order to escort oil tankers through 64 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: the narrow shipping Lane well that we would expect an 65 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: answer on soon. 66 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: I Meanwhile, in related news that a British Man has 67 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: been charged under cyber crime laws in the UAE. He 68 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: is accused of filming Iranian missiles over Dubai. 69 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: Yes, now, I know you talked about your lovely time 70 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: in the Middle East, but this is extraordinary because they 71 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: now estimate that more than twenty people, many of them Britons, 72 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: have effectively been detained because they have filmed these drones 73 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: coming into Dubai. Why is that an offense, Well, because 74 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: it would appear that the authorities want to make it 75 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: appear a safe and pleasant environment, very good for tourists 76 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: to bring your family, etc. So there is this law. 77 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: It's a sort of cybercrime law which prohibits publishing or 78 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: sharing material that could disturb public security. That's the catsual phrase. 79 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: This man has been allowed to see his family. The 80 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: Foreign Office has become involved and now all Britain's, all 81 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: foreigners in those Middle Eastern states are being told do 82 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: not film and then post these rates coming in. It 83 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: may be a natural reaction to you, It may be 84 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: something that you think the world needs to see. Indeed 85 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 2: it probably does, but it is against the law here 86 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: and therefore you could be detained. 87 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: We have a look at the UK's asylum appeals backlog now, 88 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: which has reached a record high, to the point where 89 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: it has almost doubled in the last year alone. 90 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: Yes, and this sum afraid coincides really with the first 91 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 2: full year of this labor government and it really undermines 92 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 2: their key manifesto pledge, which was to restore order to 93 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: the asylum system and use end the use of hotels 94 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: to house asylum seekers. So this is a massive disappointment 95 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: for the government. They've made a big play when they 96 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: came into power of smashed the gangs. Well, the people 97 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 2: smuggling gang seems to be thriving as much as they 98 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 2: were before, to work more closely with France. Well they've 99 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: got this one in one out scheme, but we're talking 100 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: dozens being returned. Whereas now there are eighty thousand, three 101 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty three appeals waiting to be heard. That 102 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: was at the end of twenty twenty five, up from 103 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 2: forty two thousand, so almost doubled. And the average waiting 104 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: time now for an appeal is sixty three weeks, so 105 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: that's a year and a bit a year and two 106 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: months say, where we are paying for people that have 107 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: been told to leave the country but have appealed, and 108 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 2: it is bonus contention, as I've reported on before, which 109 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: I think is going to be play out very badly 110 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: for the two main political parties when it comes to 111 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: the local council elections in May next up. 112 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: The world famous pottery firm at Denby is on the 113 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: brink of well administration. 114 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very sad. This Denby is a household name 115 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: if you're in p of ceramics and your injury of pottery. 116 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: Denby in Derbyshire in the Midlands. Founded in eighteen oh nine, 117 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: it was bought by an investment firm, a capital investment firm, 118 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: saving it from collapse back in two thousand and nine. 119 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 2: But now I'm afraid they're going to appoint administrators saying 120 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: reduced demand, escalating employment costs and soaring energy costs have 121 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: squeezed the business financially. Of course, they need a lot 122 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: of energy to make the pottery. The government has put 123 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:55,799 Speaker 2: up the tax rates here for the employer per employee 124 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: and so that's made employment costs much much more expensive. 125 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: So I'm afraid companies like this companies requiring large amounts 126 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: of energy have really had a bad time, and I'm 127 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: afraid Denby isn't immune to this. There are quite a 128 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: few workers the unions are revolved here saying it's very 129 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: worrying time. It's a British icon producing some of the 130 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: world's finest ceramics, and yet here we are looking at 131 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: its potential administration and very very uncertain future. 132 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: To France now where a million illegally registered cars are 133 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: being driven and it's part of a fraud scandal that's 134 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: cost hundreds of millions of euros in lost taxes and fines. 135 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: Yes, so this is a report from the state auditor 136 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: And what happens or what's been happening, is that fake 137 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: dealerships have manipulated the records of the state vehicle licensing agency. 138 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: Why well, because it means of course that they have 139 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: to pay less tax on them. So there are stories 140 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: that cars that would have cost a lot of money 141 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: to import are in fact being put down as something different. 142 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: In other words, they've got fake registrations and stolen vehicles 143 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: can be reregistered to avoid detection. Drug gangs are using 144 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: these cars for special jobs and it's in a special 145 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: report Lemon newspaper said it was told of a particular 146 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: vehicle that had helped a luxury car importer escape kens 147 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: of thousands of South African round in important environmental duties. 148 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: They registered a Rolls Royce as a vehicle specially adapted 149 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: for disabled people and that meant they were exempt from duty. Now, 150 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 2: in the past, the government state officials have been doing 151 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: this registering, but a few years ago they got rid 152 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: of that department and they left it to the car 153 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: importers and the car industry. And it would appear that 154 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: it looks like these two thousand civil servants should have 155 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: been kept in their post because frankly, the fraud is 156 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: going back to twenty seventeen when the government part privatized 157 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: the system. It was a very slow process. It did 158 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: speed it up, but it's been an absolute open door 159 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: for those looking to commit fraud. And we are talking many, 160 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: many millions of South African rounds in lost taxes and fines. 161 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: Scotland Yard has delivered an ultimatum to tech giants over 162 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: the epidemic which is mobile phone theft. 163 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean here we talked about Dubai representing itself 164 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: as a safe country. I'm afraid. The streets of London 165 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: are not safe if you're a mobile phone holder, that is, 166 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 2: as a pedestrian, because what's happening is people are pulling 167 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: up but beside you on a cycle or a motorized bicycle, 168 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: on a moped and stealing your phone. And of course 169 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: what's happening is some of these phones are worth a 170 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 2: lot of money. They're often stolen to order and often 171 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: taken to Algeria, China and Hong Kong. And that is 172 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: because in some of those places you aren't allowed a 173 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: device with the facility to go on to certain websites. 174 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 2: Here in the UK, of course, no restrictions are on 175 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: going on to social media sites and so forth, not 176 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: the case in some other countries. So they're being stolen 177 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: and then basically sent out to China and making a large, 178 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: large profit. So looking at the figures, just last year alone, 179 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: there were sixty one three hundred thefts of a phone 180 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: from a pedestrian. Earlier this year, in the space of 181 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: one month alone, police in London arrested nearly two hundred 182 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:40,239 Speaker 2: and fifty people and recovered seven hundred and seventy stolen handsets. 183 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: But it is tip of the Iceberg staff sj So now, 184 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: the head of police in London has told Apple, Samsung 185 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: and Google that they must design in a kill switch 186 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 2: that would basically turn a stolen phone into an unusable brick. Now, 187 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 2: I know that the current into systems allow you to 188 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: track your phone and trace your phone, but it doesn't 189 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: prevent somebody stripping it out and then reusing it. Whereas 190 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: here the head of the police is saying these need 191 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: to be made theft needs to be designed out of 192 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 2: a mobile phone, making them useless. And he's given these 193 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: tech johants until June to do that. Or who says 194 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: he's going to demand the government implement legislation forcing them 195 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: to act. Be interesting to see how they respond. But 196 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: he's been banging on about this for a couple of 197 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 2: years now. 198 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: And then to our last story, I love this one. 199 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: The public has been able to suggest names for storms 200 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: to the UK Met Office. Give us some of the 201 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: ones that have been submitted. 202 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: Yes, that's Jay So. People have had a good think here. 203 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: We've come up with Elon Gust, Dame Judy Drench, of 204 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 2: course the actor Dame Judy Dench, some other ones. Kiir Stormer, 205 00:11:54,520 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: our Prime Minister Kiir Starmer Storm, Prince Andrew Bruce, Springstorm, 206 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: fifty shades of rain, stormy mcstorm face Why Well, fifty 207 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: thousand suggestions were submitted for the twenty twenty five twenty 208 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: six season. I'm surprised to survey that the Met Office 209 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: has decided to reject a lot of these suggestions. I've 210 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 2: just found on to you. But storms are named when 211 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: they could have a medium impact on the UK, Ireland 212 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: or the Netherlands, a medium or high so at amber 213 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: alert or a red alert. The three countries' national forecasters 214 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 2: jointly come up with the list. That's the UK, Island 215 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 2: and Netherlands, and Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium and Luxembourg come 216 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: together to name their storms in southwestern Europe, so everyone's 217 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 2: name in their own storms. I have to say it 218 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 2: does make it more sort of user friendly. You know, 219 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: we've got Storm Dennis or whatever on the horizon. But 220 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 2: I am finding that every time there's a name storm, 221 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: everyone uses an excuse to basically not go out. And 222 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 2: I think if you're an employer and your staff all saying, 223 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: oh no, there's a name storm that can't possibly come 224 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: into work, it does rather grind the country to a halt, 225 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 2: and sometimes they're not as bad as they are forecasting. 226 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: So that's why we've had these name storms come in 227 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: and yeah, it's popular, Esgay, I don't know what's your 228 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 2: favorite of that shortlist I've given to you. I do 229 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: like Elon gust I. 230 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: Quite like Bruce Springstorm. Actually, anyway, the sky's the skies 231 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: are never gray with Gavin gray GG. Thanks very much, indeed, 232 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: well see actually next week