Speaker 1: Are we going to talk fifty plus? Now? Are we
Speaker 1: going to talk that?
Speaker 2: To?
Speaker 1: Dorry Marino joining us on the line. Welcome Dorry, great
Speaker 1: to have you with us, Dorry. Are you there?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: Hi?
Speaker 3: Can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I can. It's good to happen me, Karen,
Speaker 1: And thank you for affirming me. I needed that today,
Speaker 1: that article absolutely. Why why did you write this article, Dorry?
Speaker 4: Well, I think that it's a conversation that needs to
Speaker 4: start happening and start gaining momentum with people living longer,
Speaker 4: closer to ninety. You know, the idea of retirement is
Speaker 4: really well, what does it mean in this day and age.
Speaker 4: It's a concept that was created in a different time zone,
Speaker 4: really so many years ago, and I think that it
Speaker 4: needs to be reconsidered and what does it mean not
Speaker 4: just for organizations as in how do we ensure that
Speaker 4: we keep people that wants to work and that are
Speaker 4: able to work for longer, but also just in terms
Speaker 4: of our own our own personal growth and our own
Speaker 4: mindset around the fact that well, work doesn't stop at
Speaker 4: sixty five. It may it can continue, and what does
Speaker 4: that continuation look like for each and every single one
Speaker 4: of us. So it's it's a time of reinvention maybe, but.
Speaker 1: You're saying there's value there. You're saying there's value in
Speaker 1: the age of a I people are going to be
Speaker 1: losing their job essentially, and I guess FIFO is going
Speaker 1: to be one of the means of ridding people from
Speaker 1: their from their from their jobs. Tell us, essentially, what
Speaker 1: qualities fifty plus year olds harbor, What do they bring
Speaker 1: to the party, What is their contribution? And I think
Speaker 1: we can understand it in terms of maybe deep industry acumen,
Speaker 1: in terms of institutional memory, in terms of problem solving skills.
Speaker 1: Tell us about the value.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, people that have lived to fifty plus
Speaker 4: sixty plus have been around the block a number of times.
Speaker 4: We've experienced I was listening just a short while ago
Speaker 4: you were saying that, you know, we've moved from telephones
Speaker 4: to cell phones, and just the number of transitions and
Speaker 4: changes and advancements that we've experienced, and that is just
Speaker 4: all memory. The application and the adaptation of all of
Speaker 4: those changes is something that makes us resilient, That gives
Speaker 4: us insights as to how to adapt to change in
Speaker 4: a very fast changing world. And those are things that
Speaker 4: I think AI is not going to be replaced anytime soon.
Speaker 4: Just the human element of how do we navigate and
Speaker 4: how do we show up, and how do we maintain
Speaker 4: ourselves mentally and physically such and healthy to continue to
Speaker 4: be to continue to be relevant in this world that
Speaker 4: we live in. So I think it's it's the softer
Speaker 4: skills and the softer resilience that and leadership and adaptability
Speaker 4: that we bring to the party.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was, I was, I was. I was worried
Speaker 1: about that. I was worried that maybe the machines could
Speaker 1: bring some emotional quotion to to the equation. And for
Speaker 1: a while, I thought we'll be safe with the eq
Speaker 1: that life has afforded us. But then I found my
Speaker 1: sister in a conversation with with Ai shure me, and
Speaker 1: it was a really, I thought, emotionally intelligent conversation. I
Speaker 1: was really worried. Are the machines not going to be
Speaker 1: able to even beat us at that?
Speaker 4: You know, Karents who don't know. I think that there's
Speaker 4: a lot of speculation, and I think that, you know,
Speaker 4: I kind of look at aar almost like cell phones.
Speaker 4: If anyone had told us how we were going to
Speaker 4: be using cell phones and to what extent and how
Speaker 4: they would be part of our lives. When we first
Speaker 4: started using them, it would have been unbelievable. And I
Speaker 4: think that the pendulum will swing. We're going to shift
Speaker 4: very much into using AI everything, including having coaches our
Speaker 4: coaches and having AI replaced the EQ component or what
Speaker 4: humans now bring to the party. But I'm a fame
Speaker 4: believer that we found our balance, we shift back, and
Speaker 4: we kind of let that pendulum swing back towards the center.
Speaker 4: And you know, I think it's not one or the other,
Speaker 4: but it will be. And and some people will choose
Speaker 4: AI for the EQ fix or for their coaching or
Speaker 4: whatever it is that they that they may need, and
Speaker 4: other people will say no, they're actually wants the human connection,
Speaker 4: the people connection. So the real challenge for all of
Speaker 4: us is to found our space in all of that,
Speaker 4: isn't it? And I think there in Lars the opportunity
Speaker 4: for people of all ages and all generations.
Speaker 1: It's the nature of change. It's absolutely seismic, and maybe
Speaker 1: you are suggesting a seismic change in attitudes. And you
Speaker 1: in your article you talk about for decades careers and
Speaker 1: un quoting followed a predictable path, study into your twenties,
Speaker 1: work for thirty forty years, then retire at about sixty
Speaker 1: or sixty five years old. This model assumed productivity declines
Speaker 1: after sixty an idea increasingly challenged by research and real
Speaker 1: world experience. It's reality that, yeah, retirement at that age
Speaker 1: is no longer possible for many.
Speaker 4: Well, just from a financial perspective is the first thing
Speaker 4: is that, yes, you know, when we were retired at
Speaker 4: sixty fist before, you were going to be living too
Speaker 4: around seventy seventy five, so your retirement savings was going
Speaker 4: to last you five or ten years. Now you're going
Speaker 4: to be living closer to ninety. So now if you're
Speaker 4: retiring or you stop earning an income at sixty five,
Speaker 4: you know, I have to have enough money to support
Speaker 4: you for twenty five years. Aside from the financial strain
Speaker 4: or challenge is what do you do with yourself for
Speaker 4: twenty five years? Do you literally just waste away and
Speaker 4: have absolutely no purpose and nothing to do? So sixty
Speaker 4: sixty sixty five is really the age of reinvention and
Speaker 4: growth and being strategic about how do you want to
Speaker 4: play out what do you want to be doing for
Speaker 4: the next third of your life, really, and there's so
Speaker 4: many There's a lot of opportunity there for the individuals
Speaker 4: and for organizations. I really really believe that.
Speaker 1: And the challenge is also an opportunity. You talk about
Speaker 1: adapting to new technology, it is intimidating the pace of change,
Speaker 1: and you say we should, we should embrace it a
Speaker 1: little more enthusiastically.
Speaker 4: Maybe, Well, a change is not going to stop, is it.
Speaker 4: It's like wishing that, you know, we could go back
Speaker 4: to the days of you know, the nineteen hundreds. It's
Speaker 4: not going to happen. How moves forward. Change happens. It's
Speaker 4: about embracing, adapting and figuring out how you let that
Speaker 4: change impact you on a day to day basis. At
Speaker 4: the end of the day, we all have choice. Yes,
Speaker 4: we get carried with a momentum, and you know, there
Speaker 4: is the thing that says, well, you know, if you
Speaker 4: don't keep up to date, you'll be left behind. But
Speaker 4: you do have some choice around how much you want
Speaker 4: to adapt and how much you want to integrate, and
Speaker 4: how you want to make it useful and beneficial for you.
Speaker 4: So I encourage everybody. I'm turning sixteen next year, and
Speaker 4: I know that I know I'm a lot more tech
Speaker 4: savy than a lot of many younger people, and religious
Speaker 4: is an attitude of learning and adapting and not being afraid.
Speaker 4: I think fear is the biggest challenge for most people,
Speaker 4: and that is regardless of age.
Speaker 1: So I'm your generation. You were born sixty six. I
Speaker 1: was born eineteen sixty seven. We are Generation X. What
Speaker 1: really do we bring to our party? What is our
Speaker 1: generational contribution in your mind?
Speaker 4: Dorri, I give confuses all the generation. I know I'm
Speaker 4: a generation, but I would say that we were the
Speaker 4: lucky generation because I mean we really just experienced the
Speaker 4: boom of so many things. I mean it, you know,
Speaker 4: exactly exactly, but you know we haven't experienced for war,
Speaker 4: were previous general experience not one, but a huge So
Speaker 4: we are the generation of can do gross Yeah, And
Speaker 4: I think that that's really what we bring to the party,
Speaker 4: to the mix, is that we just do things. We
Speaker 4: get on with it. We don't know any other way,
Speaker 4: and so that that gives us some adaptability and it
Speaker 4: gives us the the well, you know, there's no end,
Speaker 4: we just keep going kind of things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you call themself skills, but I think they are
Speaker 1: going to be in demand, skills, that measured approach, that
Speaker 1: experience with change that we can bring our experience allow
Speaker 1: us to approach new ideas and challenges. Maybe when I'm
Speaker 1: more measured a calculated perspective, time would have taught us that.
Speaker 1: But ultimately the objective is embracing an age diverse workforce.
Speaker 1: So if fifty plus years in South Africa constitute fifteen
Speaker 1: percent of the population, do you manufacture your workforce in
Speaker 1: line with those numbers?
Speaker 4: Not necessarily. I think that it's really just, you know,
Speaker 4: data drives a lot of decisions, and that's not wrong,
Speaker 4: but I think that we also have to have sentiment
Speaker 4: and emotions allowing a lot of things to drive how
Speaker 4: we go forward. And it really is you know, we
Speaker 4: worry about young people and mental health, and I'm saying, well,
Speaker 4: makes let's make sure that we don't create a mental
Speaker 4: health problem the other end of the spectrum, because we
Speaker 4: are retiring people too early, and that is potentially what
Speaker 4: we have, not just in South Africa, but globally that
Speaker 4: we are looking at bringing people into the workplace and
Speaker 4: giving them the tools to be able to settle in
Speaker 4: and grow and develop. But at the other end of
Speaker 4: the spectrum, we're creating what we're creating another problem. We
Speaker 4: were saying, we're now letting you go, and you no
Speaker 4: longer relevant, and you no longer have a purpose, and
Speaker 4: you've gone from having something to do on a Friday
Speaker 4: to having nothing to do on a Monday. What problems,
Speaker 4: what potential problems are being created by that? You know
Speaker 4: that that attitude and that policy that we have in place,
Speaker 4: my guess.
Speaker 1: Dori Marino, growth strategist and founder of self Journey wrote
Speaker 1: an interesting opinion piece in the Business Day on the
Speaker 1: untapped value that the over fifties represent for the workplace
Speaker 1: and for the economy. But you say it's an important
Speaker 1: time to be introspective as well to ask what now
Speaker 1: and how should you answer that question?
Speaker 4: The answer is different for everybody. I think, you know,
Speaker 4: I'll have this conversation with many people and some people say, oh,
Speaker 4: please leave me alone. I can't wait to retire at
Speaker 4: sixty five, and that's okay. And then there are many
Speaker 4: people that say, yes, you know, bring it on. I'm
Speaker 4: ready to change, I'm ready to transition. I'm ready to
Speaker 4: carry on working and be relevant and be more purpose driven.
Speaker 4: So I think that that answer is a very individual
Speaker 4: one and one that we need to take responsibility for
Speaker 4: individual in terms of figuring out what does it mean
Speaker 4: for us, how are we going to face this next
Speaker 4: phase of our lives, and how are we going to
Speaker 4: show up, whether it be in the workplace or in
Speaker 4: the family or for ourselves even But I guess that
Speaker 4: what we haven't had before was permission to have those
Speaker 4: conversations because it was just a given that a sixty
Speaker 4: five is just what's going to happen. And so the
Speaker 4: idea of wanting to work for longer was one that
Speaker 4: was an outlier, and you were seen as a bit
Speaker 4: strange wanting to do that. So I'm wanting to normalize
Speaker 4: that as you know, people saying, well, I'm just going
Speaker 4: to carry on working until I decide I no longer
Speaker 4: want to be doing that, or the work that I'm
Speaker 4: going to be doing is going to be different, because
Speaker 4: that's what I'm deciding to do now. But it's still
Speaker 4: purpose driven, and it's still it's me that's deciding when
Speaker 4: I put down the tools, as opposed to you had
Speaker 4: been decided for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you said that's an individual response that you
Speaker 1: need to make. I just cannot fathom. I can't fathom retirement.
Speaker 1: I really can't.
Speaker 4: But you're That's the thing. That's the thing is that
Speaker 4: most of us at that age now, I mean, you say,
Speaker 4: you know, you're my generation. I'm sixty, I'm starting.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: The work that I'm doing now is so exciting, probably
Speaker 4: more exciting than the work that I've done all years
Speaker 4: leading up to now. And for anybody to kind of
Speaker 4: say to me, oh, no, you shouldn't be doing this.
Speaker 4: You know, you're too old. You can't learn new things.
Speaker 4: You can't there's no chance for you. It's just, as
Speaker 4: you say, unfathomable. So yeah, and that's exciting.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Who said you can teach a dog al tricks?
Speaker 4: We can learn so many new tricks.
Speaker 1: Let's just I want to I want to just share
Speaker 1: this last little paragraph out of the article, and then
Speaker 1: I'd like you to go and find it. Tapping into
Speaker 1: the over fifties workforces potential in Business Day and of course,
Speaker 1: penned by Dori Morino, our guests in a country grappling
Speaker 1: with high unemployment and a need for economic resilience, Tapping
Speaker 1: into the experience and creativity of older South Africans is
Speaker 1: not just a social imperative. It's a smart economic strategy.
Speaker 1: By investing in the fifty plus workforce as creators, collaborators,
Speaker 1: and leaders, we can build more inclusive, productive, and future
Speaker 1: ready economy for all. This is no kind of special
Speaker 1: considerations that you are asking for you saying it's good
Speaker 1: for business.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, you know, with a with a fifty plus individual
Speaker 4: stay in an organization or whether they're encouraged to go
Speaker 4: out and start businesses to create employment. That's what you
Speaker 4: want to do because you all of that money, it
Speaker 4: goes back into the economy. It builds the resilience. The
Speaker 4: more people you've got working, the more people you've got
Speaker 4: creating businesses, the more employment will get created. The more
Speaker 4: the money keeps flowing. You know, people that retire, what
Speaker 4: there they're not they're not adding to the economy. They're
Speaker 4: living or savings. They're constrained, so they're not spenders. So
Speaker 4: you want to actually just keep boosting that economics and
Speaker 4: that money cycle of people earning money so that they're investing,
Speaker 4: so that they're buying, so that they are creating employment,
Speaker 4: so that they're spending, so that they're traveling, so that
Speaker 4: they're buying houses. So that is the economic boost that
Speaker 4: I see and how older people or people of that
Speaker 4: generation can actually add to positively towards the unemployment statistics
Speaker 4: by creating employment if they go and boarding businesses or
Speaker 4: starting new new businesses.
Speaker 1: Dorry, we're gonna wrap it there. We appreciate the article.
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us today. Dorri Burrino, a growth
Speaker 1: strategist and founder at self chet again find the article
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Speaker 1: Welcome back and his eleven thirty five. There's a voice
Speaker 1: note And I'm not sure if it's Morris or Mourice.
Speaker 1: How do you pronounce it? Because I had a friend
Speaker 1: in my class at primary school his name was Maurice.
Speaker 1: Insisted it was Maurice. His name is Fuckway, So I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if it's Marrie or Maurice. But let's take listen.
Speaker 4: H right, Clarence.
Speaker 5: I hope we as a country don't spend the next
Speaker 5: sixty seven years trying to undo the damage that Nelsonman
Speaker 5: Dollas Party due to this country.
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, I think we need to. We need to
Speaker 1: look at ourselves in the mirror and really interrogate how maybe,
Speaker 1: how just just how we have also enabled maybe too
Speaker 1: much abuses to happen in this particular country. That's it's
Speaker 1: really time for us to to see how complicit we
Speaker 1: have been. Uh, And how we can demand a lot
Speaker 1: more like we should from from our government and especially
Speaker 1: for the poorest of the poor. Of course, right it
Speaker 1: is time for us to talk. We gonna we're gonna look,
Speaker 1: in fact at three Madiba Day activities. We're gonna look
Speaker 1: at the Secret Scarfs campaign. We're not gonna be telling anybody.
Speaker 1: And Ruth Eli will join join us in a short while,
Speaker 1: and then we are going to look at Impact with
Speaker 1: Love a village at an event in Cape Town. And
Speaker 1: then we are going to go to help unemployed South
Speaker 1: Africans on their journey to self employment and independence. Let's
Speaker 1: let me know about your activity as well. I'll be
Speaker 1: able to squeeze it in the time that we have available.
Speaker 1: Welcome Ruth Eli. It's great to have you with us.
Speaker 3: Good morning Clarence, good morning, Yes, sorry, good morning to
Speaker 3: the listeners.
Speaker 1: Before I forget, of course, this is a hash hash
Speaker 1: conversation by the sides of things, So we're just going
Speaker 1: to be whispering, are we Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, Unfortunately with me around, you won't get away with it.
Speaker 1: Ruth, what are you up to today?
Speaker 3: Well, the secret is out. We've been working secretly behind
Speaker 3: the scenes. We managed to get our bosses, our siblings,
Speaker 3: our nephews, our nieces, the whole family and all our
Speaker 3: networks in all eight regions have been working away tirelessly
Speaker 3: for the special day. And we've been doing it for
Speaker 3: the last ten years. And we've been making scarves, litwoits.
Speaker 1: Have been knitting scarves. How many scarves have you knitted?
Speaker 1: And who will be benefiting from all of this knitting?
Speaker 3: You know, I was looking at all the posts this
Speaker 3: morning and some of our regions some and we've got
Speaker 3: a lot of groups in all regions. I think it's
Speaker 3: actually countless at the stage and one particular group have
Speaker 3: done like six hundred and seventy scarves.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: And you know we've got groups at all the libraries,
Speaker 3: yellow clean cake town people meet at coffee shops and
Speaker 3: every group I've just gone to town. Or should I
Speaker 3: say I have been scarving away?
Speaker 1: Now tell me you say, like a theme? Do they
Speaker 1: have to kind of do it in a certain color
Speaker 1: or is it just whatever wall is available? Just do it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you see with sixty seven. Because we're a non
Speaker 3: profitable organization, we look off donations, so we're very fortunate
Speaker 3: we are. Wool Stage are always a full We get
Speaker 3: people that give us colorful things. And you know we're
Speaker 3: not own CDs, so we turn it into magical scarves
Speaker 3: and something that you might not like, somebody else will
Speaker 3: just look at it and fall in love immediately.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's just think one place. You say, six
Speaker 1: hundred scarves. Who's going to benefit from it? How do
Speaker 1: you distribute it?
Speaker 3: Well, one of the secrets is that we secretly hang
Speaker 3: it on trees, on lampposts, anything that in a where
Speaker 3: and in a way. We think somebody that would parssy,
Speaker 3: that would need it, So we just hang it around.
Speaker 3: And I think that's part of the secret about it.
Speaker 3: You know that we hang a dick and we surprise somebody.
Speaker 3: I call it random acts of kindness.
Speaker 1: I love random acts of kindness. And where would these
Speaker 1: calves be finding trees? Give us areas where you know
Speaker 1: they're going to be hanging up on.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I'm from Grassy Park, so it's very green.
Speaker 3: Then we have still got some trees, thanks very much,
Speaker 3: So you know we will be hanging them, you know,
Speaker 3: around the Grassy Park area. People who'll be listing at
Speaker 3: a cathedral in town and they will be hanging somewhere. Oh,
Speaker 3: the list is actually endless. So I need people actually
Speaker 3: to go onto our social media and go and find
Speaker 3: a place in your region and you'll see where we're
Speaker 3: all distributing. Because, like I said, I'll be taking up
Speaker 3: all your time this morning if I have to run
Speaker 3: through the whole list.
Speaker 1: Okay, then direct us to your social media sites. What
Speaker 1: are we looking for?
Speaker 3: Well, you know we are on Instagram, We're on Facebook,
Speaker 3: We're on Twitter, we are you know, we've got info
Speaker 3: at sixty seven Blankets. If you quickly want to drop
Speaker 3: us an email, there's always somebody there that definitely will respond.
Speaker 3: A very active website.
Speaker 6: So even if you just.
Speaker 3: Put on the sixty seven blankets for Nelson Mandela Day,
Speaker 3: we will be all in your face. Our core purpose
Speaker 3: is blankets. But once a year we just do these
Speaker 3: little things where we can actually put it around somebody's
Speaker 3: nick Sometimes we don't even leave it on the on
Speaker 3: the tree. We will don't find people in the car park,
Speaker 3: you know, people that we still deserve a little warmth
Speaker 3: and a little bit of love.
Speaker 1: I love your random acts of kindness, Solar, and I
Speaker 1: know it's going to bring much needed warmth to very
Speaker 1: deserving people. Thank you to you and the wonderful netwits
Speaker 1: for this initiative. Today, Ruth Eli is the ambassador and
Speaker 1: of course you want to go and search on social
Speaker 1: media for sixty seven blankets for Nelson Mandela and you'll
Speaker 1: find out more. Now, let's got a Solva Albert Taine
Speaker 1: Impact Group HR executive and we are going to what
Speaker 1: are you getting? What are you up to today? Solar Welcome, Hi, Hi.
Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you for having me. Well personally, I'm
Speaker 6: in Gophanage in Johannesburg in a place called Eldorado Park.
Speaker 6: So we're doing an activation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's wonderful. I'm familiar with Eldorado Park. Have some
Speaker 1: fun memories. Tell us about about your initiative.
Speaker 6: So today we've got activations in johanna Burg, in Cape
Speaker 6: Town and in case it n so, the one in
Speaker 6: Eldorado Park is an orphanage for little kids. And then
Speaker 6: in Cape Town in Greenville, we have our team out
Speaker 6: at Love Village.
Speaker 1: Okay, and exactly what does the activation entail?
Speaker 6: So in Love Village in Cape Town, our staff are
Speaker 6: working in the vegetable garden at that orphanage. They're spending
Speaker 6: time with the toddlers. And they're also making sandwiches and
Speaker 6: assisting chores in the kitchen.
Speaker 1: So how does the village differ from a traditional orphanage.
Speaker 1: I think there's an interesting story there as well.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, so Love Villages. There's currently nine across the country,
Speaker 6: and it's not only your orphanage, but they also provide
Speaker 6: average of five thousand meals weekly to people in it
Speaker 6: across the country and to date they had six five
Speaker 6: hundred people have already received medical at at no cost
Speaker 6: through Love Village. So each Love Village also runs their
Speaker 6: own unique program and these programs are designed to our
Speaker 6: children reach their full potential.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to sell Alberta an Impact Group. HR executive
Speaker 1: tell us more about the Impact Group. What do you do?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 6: Impact Group is a national food cleaning and integrated facilities
Speaker 6: management company. We are a purpose driven company and our
Speaker 6: aim is to positive impact the lives of all the
Speaker 6: people with touch and which includes our own employees, our clients,
Speaker 6: and the communities we serve.
Speaker 1: Okay, and you're still wanting us to get involved. Can
Speaker 1: we get involved?
Speaker 6: Yes? Ye so at any of the Love Villages. You
Speaker 6: can find the information online. They welcome volunteers not only
Speaker 6: on Neilsen man Dalla day but every day of the year,
Speaker 6: so you can just pop in and assist. We need it.
Speaker 1: And I know Friday today from nine o'clock to eleven o'clock.
Speaker 1: So your activity in Greenville that's near Durbanville has come
Speaker 1: to an end already, hasn't it.
Speaker 6: I think they're still on site. I just spoke to
Speaker 6: someone now, so they're still assisting with sandwiches. But these
Speaker 6: activations from vigious companies throughout the day at the village.
Speaker 1: Okay, well you'll find it two forty seven corner of
Speaker 1: Baobab and Ebony Streets. That's Greenville near Durbanville. Maybe you
Speaker 1: want to just go and give them some moral support.
Speaker 1: That would be wonderful. Thank you Salwa for joining us
Speaker 1: and alerting us to your effort today. It's appreciated on
Speaker 1: me a pleasure, thank you. Okay. We've got Helen Brand,
Speaker 1: national marketing manager of TCB with us as well. Another
Speaker 1: initiative of foot. Of course, we're looking at pretty serious
Speaker 1: unemployment rates and taking care of business. Enterprise Development program
Speaker 1: is fully an essential gap by training South Africans to
Speaker 1: become self employed and joining us, Helene welcome, it's great
Speaker 1: to have.
Speaker 2: You good morning, thank you.
Speaker 1: Is it Helene Brand? Yes, okay, because it could be
Speaker 1: Brunt or it could be brand, just checking you the
Speaker 1: national marketing manager at TCB. What is TCB all about?
Speaker 2: Yes, well, Taking Care of Business is an organization that
Speaker 2: works with unemployed South Africans across the country and we
Speaker 2: focus on how you can eradicate poverty by becoming self employed,
Speaker 2: mostly in trading in what we call the circular economy.
Speaker 2: That's when we take waste items I think it would
Speaker 2: have ended up inlandful and learned to silid, repair it,
Speaker 2: repurposes and make money for it.
Speaker 1: So essentially, through three programs and I'm reading Resell, repair
Speaker 1: and Remake, TCB empowers unemployed individuals, especially women and fathers,
Speaker 1: to become self employed in the circuit economy and you provide.
Speaker 2: Our biggest program is that we sell one. So that's
Speaker 2: where we receive amazing donations of clothing and harmony from
Speaker 2: all the big brands across South Africa who donate their
Speaker 2: excess clothing and items to