WEBVTT - Tapping into the over 50’s workforces potential 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.880 Are we going to talk fifty plus? Now? Are we 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:03.440 going to talk that? 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:03.560 To? 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:07.200 Dorry Marino joining us on the line. Welcome Dorry, great 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:12.200 to have you with us, Dorry. Are you there? 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:13.039 Yes? 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:13.280 Hi? 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:13.840 Can you hear me? 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:17.200 Yeah, yes, I can. It's good to happen me, Karen, 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:20.640 And thank you for affirming me. I needed that today, 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:25.400 that article absolutely. Why why did you write this article, Dorry? 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:31.000 Well, I think that it's a conversation that needs to 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:36.800 start happening and start gaining momentum with people living longer, 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:43.040 closer to ninety. You know, the idea of retirement is 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:46.199 really well, what does it mean in this day and age. 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:52.840 It's a concept that was created in a different time zone, 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:56.920 really so many years ago, and I think that it 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:59.600 needs to be reconsidered and what does it mean not 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:03.240 just for organizations as in how do we ensure that 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:05.800 we keep people that wants to work and that are 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:10.000 able to work for longer, but also just in terms 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:13.119 of our own our own personal growth and our own 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.600 mindset around the fact that well, work doesn't stop at 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:21.479 sixty five. It may it can continue, and what does 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:24.759 that continuation look like for each and every single one 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:29.959 of us. So it's it's a time of reinvention maybe, but. 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:32.840 You're saying there's value there. You're saying there's value in 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:36.440 the age of a I people are going to be 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:40.920 losing their job essentially, and I guess FIFO is going 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:44.680 to be one of the means of ridding people from 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:47.240 their from their from their jobs. Tell us, essentially, what 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:51.360 qualities fifty plus year olds harbor, What do they bring 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.320 to the party, What is their contribution? And I think 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:57.920 we can understand it in terms of maybe deep industry acumen, 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:01.600 in terms of institutional memory, in terms of problem solving skills. 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:03.840 Tell us about the value. 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:07.919 Well, you know, people that have lived to fifty plus 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:12.120 sixty plus have been around the block a number of times. 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.520 We've experienced I was listening just a short while ago 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:18.839 you were saying that, you know, we've moved from telephones 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.880 to cell phones, and just the number of transitions and 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:26.320 changes and advancements that we've experienced, and that is just 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:30.640 all memory. The application and the adaptation of all of 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:34.560 those changes is something that makes us resilient, That gives 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:39.880 us insights as to how to adapt to change in 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:44.720 a very fast changing world. And those are things that 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:49.920 I think AI is not going to be replaced anytime soon. 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:54.400 Just the human element of how do we navigate and 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:57.440 how do we show up, and how do we maintain 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:04.360 ourselves mentally and physically such and healthy to continue to 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:10.560 be to continue to be relevant in this world that 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.600 we live in. So I think it's it's the softer 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:20.639 skills and the softer resilience that and leadership and adaptability 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:21.800 that we bring to the party. 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:25.560 Yeah, I was, I was, I was. I was worried 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:29.200 about that. I was worried that maybe the machines could 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:33.280 bring some emotional quotion to to the equation. And for 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.920 a while, I thought we'll be safe with the eq 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:41.320 that life has afforded us. But then I found my 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:47.960 sister in a conversation with with Ai shure me, and 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:53.960 it was a really, I thought, emotionally intelligent conversation. I 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.520 was really worried. Are the machines not going to be 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:57.600 able to even beat us at that? 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:02.320 You know, Karents who don't know. I think that there's 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:05.000 a lot of speculation, and I think that, you know, 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:07.600 I kind of look at aar almost like cell phones. 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:10.520 If anyone had told us how we were going to 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:12.560 be using cell phones and to what extent and how 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:15.200 they would be part of our lives. When we first 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:18.880 started using them, it would have been unbelievable. And I 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.680 think that the pendulum will swing. We're going to shift 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:26.520 very much into using AI everything, including having coaches our 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:31.279 coaches and having AI replaced the EQ component or what 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.960 humans now bring to the party. But I'm a fame 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:37.320 believer that we found our balance, we shift back, and 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:40.320 we kind of let that pendulum swing back towards the center. 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:43.800 And you know, I think it's not one or the other, 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:49.080 but it will be. And and some people will choose 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:53.440 AI for the EQ fix or for their coaching or 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:55.839 whatever it is that they that they may need, and 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:59.919 other people will say no, they're actually wants the human connection, 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:04.320 the people connection. So the real challenge for all of 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.040 us is to found our space in all of that, 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:09.040 isn't it? And I think there in Lars the opportunity 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.480 for people of all ages and all generations. 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:16.840 It's the nature of change. It's absolutely seismic, and maybe 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:21.840 you are suggesting a seismic change in attitudes. And you 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:25.960 in your article you talk about for decades careers and 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:29.560 un quoting followed a predictable path, study into your twenties, 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:32.640 work for thirty forty years, then retire at about sixty 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.919 or sixty five years old. This model assumed productivity declines 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:40.119 after sixty an idea increasingly challenged by research and real 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:46.960 world experience. It's reality that, yeah, retirement at that age 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:48.800 is no longer possible for many. 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:54.039 Well, just from a financial perspective is the first thing 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:57.240 is that, yes, you know, when we were retired at 0:05:57.279 --> 0:05:59.400 sixty fist before, you were going to be living too 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.480 around seventy seventy five, so your retirement savings was going 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:04.640 to last you five or ten years. Now you're going 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:06.760 to be living closer to ninety. So now if you're 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.320 retiring or you stop earning an income at sixty five, 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:12.000 you know, I have to have enough money to support 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:17.560 you for twenty five years. Aside from the financial strain 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:20.880 or challenge is what do you do with yourself for 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:24.360 twenty five years? Do you literally just waste away and 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:29.159 have absolutely no purpose and nothing to do? So sixty 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:34.760 sixty sixty five is really the age of reinvention and 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:39.159 growth and being strategic about how do you want to 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.039 play out what do you want to be doing for 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:46.400 the next third of your life, really, and there's so 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:49.680 many There's a lot of opportunity there for the individuals 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:52.800 and for organizations. I really really believe that. 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:58.559 And the challenge is also an opportunity. You talk about 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:03.560 adapting to new technology, it is intimidating the pace of change, 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:07.040 and you say we should, we should embrace it a 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:08.400 little more enthusiastically. 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:12.440 Maybe, Well, a change is not going to stop, is it. 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:15.360 It's like wishing that, you know, we could go back 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:17.880 to the days of you know, the nineteen hundreds. It's 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:21.040 not going to happen. How moves forward. Change happens. It's 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:27.920 about embracing, adapting and figuring out how you let that 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:31.000 change impact you on a day to day basis. At 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:32.720 the end of the day, we all have choice. Yes, 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:36.600 we get carried with a momentum, and you know, there 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:38.960 is the thing that says, well, you know, if you 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:42.280 don't keep up to date, you'll be left behind. But 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:46.000 you do have some choice around how much you want 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.520 to adapt and how much you want to integrate, and 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.120 how you want to make it useful and beneficial for you. 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:55.800 So I encourage everybody. I'm turning sixteen next year, and 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.080 I know that I know I'm a lot more tech 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:03.280 savy than a lot of many younger people, and religious 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:08.520 is an attitude of learning and adapting and not being afraid. 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:13.440 I think fear is the biggest challenge for most people, 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:15.280 and that is regardless of age. 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.440 So I'm your generation. You were born sixty six. I 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:22.480 was born eineteen sixty seven. We are Generation X. What 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:24.560 really do we bring to our party? What is our 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.600 generational contribution in your mind? 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:32.560 Dorri, I give confuses all the generation. I know I'm 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:36.440 a generation, but I would say that we were the 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:39.840 lucky generation because I mean we really just experienced the 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.640 boom of so many things. I mean it, you know, 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:48.880 exactly exactly, but you know we haven't experienced for war, 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:55.760 were previous general experience not one, but a huge So 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:05.440 we are the generation of can do gross Yeah, And 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:10.280 I think that that's really what we bring to the party, 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:15.720 to the mix, is that we just do things. We 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.920 get on with it. We don't know any other way, 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:25.080 and so that that gives us some adaptability and it 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:28.080 gives us the the well, you know, there's no end, 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:29.760 we just keep going kind of things. 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:35.120 Yeah, you call themself skills, but I think they are 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:38.600 going to be in demand, skills, that measured approach, that 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:42.840 experience with change that we can bring our experience allow 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.520 us to approach new ideas and challenges. Maybe when I'm 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:52.520 more measured a calculated perspective, time would have taught us that. 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:58.199 But ultimately the objective is embracing an age diverse workforce. 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:03.119 So if fifty plus years in South Africa constitute fifteen 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:08.959 percent of the population, do you manufacture your workforce in 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:14.160 line with those numbers? 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:16.920 Not necessarily. I think that it's really just, you know, 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.679 data drives a lot of decisions, and that's not wrong, 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:22.800 but I think that we also have to have sentiment 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:27.600 and emotions allowing a lot of things to drive how 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.599 we go forward. And it really is you know, we 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:37.640 worry about young people and mental health, and I'm saying, well, 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.000 makes let's make sure that we don't create a mental 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:42.600 health problem the other end of the spectrum, because we 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:46.480 are retiring people too early, and that is potentially what 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:50.720 we have, not just in South Africa, but globally that 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:54.559 we are looking at bringing people into the workplace and 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:59.040 giving them the tools to be able to settle in 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.160 and grow and develop. But at the other end of 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:04.439 the spectrum, we're creating what we're creating another problem. We 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:08.040 were saying, we're now letting you go, and you no 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.840 longer relevant, and you no longer have a purpose, and 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:13.559 you've gone from having something to do on a Friday 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:16.600 to having nothing to do on a Monday. What problems, 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:23.160 what potential problems are being created by that? You know 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:26.640 that that attitude and that policy that we have in place, 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:27.600 my guess. 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:33.200 Dori Marino, growth strategist and founder of self Journey wrote 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:35.560 an interesting opinion piece in the Business Day on the 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:41.360 untapped value that the over fifties represent for the workplace 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.200 and for the economy. But you say it's an important 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:49.040 time to be introspective as well to ask what now 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:51.839 and how should you answer that question? 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:56.880 The answer is different for everybody. I think, you know, 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.640 I'll have this conversation with many people and some people say, oh, 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:02.080 please leave me alone. I can't wait to retire at 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.920 sixty five, and that's okay. And then there are many 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:08.360 people that say, yes, you know, bring it on. I'm 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:12.199 ready to change, I'm ready to transition. I'm ready to 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:15.120 carry on working and be relevant and be more purpose driven. 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:18.440 So I think that that answer is a very individual 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:22.720 one and one that we need to take responsibility for 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.040 individual in terms of figuring out what does it mean 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:28.640 for us, how are we going to face this next 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.240 phase of our lives, and how are we going to 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:35.920 show up, whether it be in the workplace or in 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:40.880 the family or for ourselves even But I guess that 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:43.760 what we haven't had before was permission to have those 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.800 conversations because it was just a given that a sixty 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:49.480 five is just what's going to happen. And so the 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.480 idea of wanting to work for longer was one that 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:55.440 was an outlier, and you were seen as a bit 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:58.599 strange wanting to do that. So I'm wanting to normalize 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:02.760 that as you know, people saying, well, I'm just going 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:05.480 to carry on working until I decide I no longer 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:07.439 want to be doing that, or the work that I'm 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:09.400 going to be doing is going to be different, because 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:11.920 that's what I'm deciding to do now. But it's still 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:15.560 purpose driven, and it's still it's me that's deciding when 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:19.160 I put down the tools, as opposed to you had 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:20.160 been decided for me. 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:23.680 Yeah, and you said that's an individual response that you 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:28.600 need to make. I just cannot fathom. I can't fathom retirement. 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:29.240 I really can't. 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:34.000 But you're That's the thing. That's the thing is that 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.440 most of us at that age now, I mean, you say, 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:39.880 you know, you're my generation. I'm sixty, I'm starting. 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:40.440 You know. 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:43.600 The work that I'm doing now is so exciting, probably 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.400 more exciting than the work that I've done all years 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.320 leading up to now. And for anybody to kind of 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.280 say to me, oh, no, you shouldn't be doing this. 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:53.600 You know, you're too old. You can't learn new things. 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:56.080 You can't there's no chance for you. It's just, as 0:13:56.120 --> 0:14:00.160 you say, unfathomable. So yeah, and that's exciting. 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:03.800 Yeah. Who said you can teach a dog al tricks? 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:05.959 We can learn so many new tricks. 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:08.960 Let's just I want to I want to just share 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:11.960 this last little paragraph out of the article, and then 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:13.760 I'd like you to go and find it. Tapping into 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:18.760 the over fifties workforces potential in Business Day and of course, 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:23.000 penned by Dori Morino, our guests in a country grappling 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:26.520 with high unemployment and a need for economic resilience, Tapping 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.680 into the experience and creativity of older South Africans is 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:33.640 not just a social imperative. It's a smart economic strategy. 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:37.360 By investing in the fifty plus workforce as creators, collaborators, 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.600 and leaders, we can build more inclusive, productive, and future 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:45.920 ready economy for all. This is no kind of special 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:50.720 considerations that you are asking for you saying it's good 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:52.680 for business. 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:56.480 Absolutely, you know, with a with a fifty plus individual 0:14:56.560 --> 0:15:00.240 stay in an organization or whether they're encouraged to go 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:05.640 out and start businesses to create employment. That's what you 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:08.960 want to do because you all of that money, it 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:11.880 goes back into the economy. It builds the resilience. The 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.000 more people you've got working, the more people you've got 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:17.520 creating businesses, the more employment will get created. The more 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:20.720 the money keeps flowing. You know, people that retire, what 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.880 there they're not they're not adding to the economy. They're 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:28.480 living or savings. They're constrained, so they're not spenders. So 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.400 you want to actually just keep boosting that economics and 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:34.400 that money cycle of people earning money so that they're investing, 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:37.480 so that they're buying, so that they are creating employment, 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:39.800 so that they're spending, so that they're traveling, so that 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:44.800 they're buying houses. So that is the economic boost that 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:49.320 I see and how older people or people of that 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:56.880 generation can actually add to positively towards the unemployment statistics 0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:01.920 by creating employment if they go and boarding businesses or 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:05.479 starting new new businesses. 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.880 Dorry, we're gonna wrap it there. We appreciate the article. 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.760 Thank you for joining us today. Dorri Burrino, a growth 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:14.560 strategist and founder at self chet again find the article 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:19.760 in a Business Day. A wild drive your new dad, 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:22.960 two babies seriously and one car that apparently can cope. 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:26.720 Yeahsh the hedgeback was my baby, but it just didn't 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:29.080 have enough space for my two new babies. 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Visits Dkmsafrica dot 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:13.119 org today Every rand and every swap count in the 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:23.919 fight against blood cancer. Cato WhatsApp Clarence five six seven 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:26.000 one five six seven. 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:29.320 Welcome back and his eleven thirty five. There's a voice 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:31.960 note And I'm not sure if it's Morris or Mourice. 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:36.200 How do you pronounce it? Because I had a friend 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:40.360 in my class at primary school his name was Maurice. 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:43.600 Insisted it was Maurice. His name is Fuckway, So I'm 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:46.600 not sure if it's Marrie or Maurice. But let's take listen. 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:49.400 H right, Clarence. 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.960 I hope we as a country don't spend the next 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:57.840 sixty seven years trying to undo the damage that Nelsonman 0:17:57.920 --> 0:17:59.760 Dollas Party due to this country. 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:08.240 Huh yeah, I think we need to. We need to 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:14.520 look at ourselves in the mirror and really interrogate how maybe, 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:20.600 how just just how we have also enabled maybe too 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:23.080 much abuses to happen in this particular country. That's it's 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.919 really time for us to to see how complicit we 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:28.600 have been. Uh, And how we can demand a lot 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:32.600 more like we should from from our government and especially 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:35.560 for the poorest of the poor. Of course, right it 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.160 is time for us to talk. We gonna we're gonna look, 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:41.320 in fact at three Madiba Day activities. We're gonna look 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:45.240 at the Secret Scarfs campaign. We're not gonna be telling anybody. 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:47.680 And Ruth Eli will join join us in a short while, 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:51.639 and then we are going to look at Impact with 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:55.800 Love a village at an event in Cape Town. And 0:18:55.840 --> 0:19:01.959 then we are going to go to help unemployed South 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:06.359 Africans on their journey to self employment and independence. Let's 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:08.800 let me know about your activity as well. I'll be 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.119 able to squeeze it in the time that we have available. 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:14.760 Welcome Ruth Eli. It's great to have you with us. 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:19.639 Good morning Clarence, good morning, Yes, sorry, good morning to 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:20.399 the listeners. 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:23.120 Before I forget, of course, this is a hash hash 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:25.520 conversation by the sides of things, So we're just going 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:27.919 to be whispering, are we Yeah? 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:31.280 No, Unfortunately with me around, you won't get away with it. 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:33.719 Ruth, what are you up to today? 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:38.280 Well, the secret is out. We've been working secretly behind 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:42.200 the scenes. We managed to get our bosses, our siblings, 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:45.840 our nephews, our nieces, the whole family and all our 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:49.520 networks in all eight regions have been working away tirelessly 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:52.399 for the special day. And we've been doing it for 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:58.120 the last ten years. And we've been making scarves, litwoits. 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:01.439 Have been knitting scarves. How many scarves have you knitted? 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:04.680 And who will be benefiting from all of this knitting? 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:08.199 You know, I was looking at all the posts this 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:11.639 morning and some of our regions some and we've got 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:14.480 a lot of groups in all regions. I think it's 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:18.119 actually countless at the stage and one particular group have 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:20.800 done like six hundred and seventy scarves. 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:21.159 Wow. 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:23.880 And you know we've got groups at all the libraries, 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:27.240 yellow clean cake town people meet at coffee shops and 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:30.760 every group I've just gone to town. Or should I 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:33.240 say I have been scarving away? 0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:35.800 Now tell me you say, like a theme? Do they 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:39.040 have to kind of do it in a certain color 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:42.040 or is it just whatever wall is available? Just do it? 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:45.480 Yeah, you see with sixty seven. Because we're a non 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:51.600 profitable organization, we look off donations, so we're very fortunate 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:55.800 we are. Wool Stage are always a full We get 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:58.680 people that give us colorful things. And you know we're 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:03.320 not own CDs, so we turn it into magical scarves 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:05.880 and something that you might not like, somebody else will 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:08.240 just look at it and fall in love immediately. 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:11.280 Okay, so that's just think one place. You say, six 0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:13.879 hundred scarves. Who's going to benefit from it? How do 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:15.000 you distribute it? 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:19.160 Well, one of the secrets is that we secretly hang 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:23.400 it on trees, on lampposts, anything that in a where 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:26.480 and in a way. We think somebody that would parssy, 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:30.080 that would need it, So we just hang it around. 0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:33.000 And I think that's part of the secret about it. 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:36.640 You know that we hang a dick and we surprise somebody. 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:39.480 I call it random acts of kindness. 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:42.480 I love random acts of kindness. And where would these 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:45.320 calves be finding trees? Give us areas where you know 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:46.760 they're going to be hanging up on. 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:50.359 Well, you know, I'm from Grassy Park, so it's very green. 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:53.359 Then we have still got some trees, thanks very much, 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:55.760 So you know we will be hanging them, you know, 0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:59.919 around the Grassy Park area. People who'll be listing at 0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:05.200 a cathedral in town and they will be hanging somewhere. Oh, 0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:09.119 the list is actually endless. So I need people actually 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:12.600 to go onto our social media and go and find 0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:15.880 a place in your region and you'll see where we're 0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:18.800 all distributing. Because, like I said, I'll be taking up 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:20.800 all your time this morning if I have to run 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:22.240 through the whole list. 0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:24.879 Okay, then direct us to your social media sites. What 0:22:25.160 --> 0:22:25.880 are we looking for? 0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:29.640 Well, you know we are on Instagram, We're on Facebook, 0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:32.960 We're on Twitter, we are you know, we've got info 0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:35.120 at sixty seven Blankets. If you quickly want to drop 0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:39.320 us an email, there's always somebody there that definitely will respond. 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:41.320 A very active website. 0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:42.080 So even if you just. 0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:45.120 Put on the sixty seven blankets for Nelson Mandela Day, 0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:49.040 we will be all in your face. Our core purpose 0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:52.360 is blankets. But once a year we just do these 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:55.360 little things where we can actually put it around somebody's 0:22:55.400 --> 0:22:57.840 nick Sometimes we don't even leave it on the on 0:22:57.880 --> 0:23:00.399 the tree. We will don't find people in the car park, 0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:04.400 you know, people that we still deserve a little warmth 0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:05.560 and a little bit of love. 0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:10.080 I love your random acts of kindness, Solar, and I 0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:12.760 know it's going to bring much needed warmth to very 0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:15.480 deserving people. Thank you to you and the wonderful netwits 0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:21.280 for this initiative. Today, Ruth Eli is the ambassador and 0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:22.800 of course you want to go and search on social 0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:25.760 media for sixty seven blankets for Nelson Mandela and you'll 0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:28.280 find out more. Now, let's got a Solva Albert Taine 0:23:28.720 --> 0:23:34.479 Impact Group HR executive and we are going to what 0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:38.520 are you getting? What are you up to today? Solar Welcome, Hi, Hi. 0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:41.240 Thank you, thank you for having me. Well personally, I'm 0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:46.000