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Speaker 1: Drive with Africa Milani in for John Maathaan on Kate Talk.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the national roads, shall we. Hugenot Tunnel

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Speaker 1: is one of the main exit points from Cape Town

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Speaker 1: for people traveling to other parts of the country to

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Speaker 1: spend the Easter weekend. And joining me on the line

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Speaker 1: is the chief Director of Traffic Management with the Western

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Speaker 1: Cape Government. That's Mixine Bozeta. Note Mixine, good afternoon and

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Speaker 1: welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Good after in Africa. Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Has it been a busy day? Are people leaving in

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Speaker 1: their droves to go and enjoy Easter weekend in other

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Speaker 1: parts of the country.

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Speaker 2: It's been a busy day. So I was thinking do

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Speaker 2: I say with the roadblock east, but you've already mentioned it.

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Speaker 2: So we have a roadblock at the Hugenot tunnel. It's

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Speaker 2: just a normal visible kickpoint and the level of compliance

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Speaker 2: is encouraging Africa And started at eight o'clock this morning

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Speaker 2: and we've been checking long distance basses, public transfer vehicles,

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Speaker 2: private vehicles and it's increasing. The amount of vehiculear traffic

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Speaker 2: leaving the province is increasing and the amount of people

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Speaker 2: inkling our province is also increasing. But the level of

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Speaker 2: compliance is encouraging.

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Speaker 1: Which is good to hear, Maxine. I'm hoping that everyone

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Speaker 1: will heed the calls from traffic officials to rest and

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Speaker 1: make sure they drive cars that are roadworthy, you know,

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Speaker 1: and all of that so that everybody gets to their

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Speaker 1: destination safely and most importantly, returns home safely. What sort

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Speaker 1: of numbers on average hour are we're talking about from

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Speaker 1: the information you have.

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Speaker 2: I cannot give you that offhand because that is still

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Speaker 2: being calculated, So we'll probably get it from tol Con after,

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Speaker 2: you know, twenty four hours to see what's coming in.

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Speaker 2: But when we did the presentation just before Easter, we've

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Speaker 2: steadily seen an increase in the amount of vehicular traffic

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Speaker 2: every Festive season and every Easter season, the numbers have

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Speaker 2: not dropped, So I'm encouraged to see that. I'm interested

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Speaker 2: to see the numbers this Easter because it just keeps

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Speaker 2: on about five hundred and six hundred to cause per

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Speaker 2: hour come through that toll plaza.

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Speaker 1: Interesting because we're talking about the price of fuel, and

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Speaker 1: obviously that went up at midnightey yesterday morning, and some

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Speaker 1: people would have expected that travel plans would then have

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Speaker 1: changed a little bit given the extraor particular if you're

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Speaker 1: driving a diesel vehicle, the additional amount you're going to

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Speaker 1: pay perlita that you point your car.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you this though. We after the roadblock,

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Speaker 2: we then went to the busiest PTI, which is Joe

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Speaker 2: Garby in Philippi. And I was expecting, you know, normally

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Speaker 2: this Thursday before Good Friday, you have this massive exodus

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Speaker 2: of long distance travel. It was empty Africa. If they

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Speaker 2: were about six long distance buses and about four many

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Speaker 2: bus taxes. It was a lot. Even the pedestrian traffic

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Speaker 2: has calmed down. So I did say to the team

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Speaker 2: when we were there, said this is very unusual. I

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Speaker 2: had chat with the you know, the patrons outside of

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Speaker 2: the interchange and just talking to everybody, and people were saying, no,

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Speaker 2: it's just not worth it. You know, they haven't raised

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Speaker 2: enough money to get a taxi in order to take

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Speaker 2: them to where they needed to be, you know, to

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Speaker 2: the Northern Cape or to the Eastern Cape, and people

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Speaker 2: are just generally staying at home. But this is what

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Speaker 2: it was. We were Normally, we would expect massive drones

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Speaker 2: of droves of people leaving from Jogar because it is

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Speaker 2: one of our busiest PTIs. I've spoken to the guys

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Speaker 2: of check industry if our interviewer at bowbel Bowbele's also

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Speaker 2: been quiet, Cape Colundstation Digger's be quiet. And I also

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Speaker 2: think what has aided this is the fact that school

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Speaker 2: holidays started last week Friday and last week Friday, especially

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Speaker 2: over the weekend, we saw people leaving, and I think

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Speaker 2: people pre empted the spiritual price increase and then thought,

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Speaker 2: you know what, let's leave before the first of April,

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Speaker 2: which most people did. It's very busy in and around

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Speaker 2: on the roads, but I think it's just people doing

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Speaker 2: the normal Easter shopping and those type of things. I

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Speaker 2: would say in one there was a bit of congestion

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Speaker 2: just before the R three hundred, but those are people

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Speaker 2: City appart relatively quiet.

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Speaker 1: Which is very interesting. And I agree with you. Because

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Speaker 1: the school holidays started effectively last week Friday, I imagine

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Speaker 1: many families then took up the opportunity past weekend to

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Speaker 1: travel ahead of the price increase come the first of April.

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Speaker 1: Magzine we tend to focus a lot on the national

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Speaker 1: roads around the festive season and the Easter weekend. Period.

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Speaker 1: I hope that we are not going to be ignoring

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Speaker 1: I suppose the local roads, the you know, normal city

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Speaker 1: roads where a lot of us who are not going

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Speaker 1: anywhere are going to be driving, because people can be

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Speaker 1: festive and happy at the stub of the year and

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Speaker 1: they need to make sure that they adhere to the

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Speaker 1: rules of the road as well.

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Speaker 2: So after the so over the last several weeks, joint

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Speaker 2: plannings have been taken place with municipal traffic police, your

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Speaker 2: law enforcement, metro Police, the South African Police Service EMS

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Speaker 2: SO DOES. It's been a joint planning ahead this easter

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Speaker 2: and it's been nice because we don't duplicate plans. You know,

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Speaker 2: the municipal traffic police know that they need to concentrate

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Speaker 2: on the municipalters. We as the province will do provincial

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Speaker 2: and they will also do the integrated visible checkpoints together.

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Speaker 2: So it is very much a whole of can we say,

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Speaker 2: society approach in terms of the level of enforcement and

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Speaker 2: visibility that you're going to see on the roads over

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Speaker 2: this easter period.

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Speaker 1: Make said, I'm sure you and your team are going

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Speaker 1: to be supremely busy this. We can thank you very

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Speaker 1: much for your hard work, mixing and Pozeta Note is

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Speaker 1: the chief director of Traffic Management at the Western Cape

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Speaker 1: government