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Speaker 1: Isaac Sleco is the Western Cape Provincial Minister MEC of Mobility.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Isaac, really appreciate your time. What's the report

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Speaker 1: back from this long week? And I can say from

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Speaker 1: my anecdotally spirits fewer vehicles on the roads, but also

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Speaker 1: an increased police prisence.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, yeah, good morning last and good morning to

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Speaker 2: your listeners Leicester. I wus say yesterday on my way

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Speaker 2: because I was in the Stain Cape over the weekend

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Speaker 2: and then I could see from Sunday Sunday night when

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Speaker 2: I was I was driving around in Beaufortwest the number

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Speaker 2: of public transport that we're coming from the Eastern Cape

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Speaker 2: heading to the Western Cape. And we had a fatigue

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Speaker 2: drive also on the end one in Ridfontein. You know,

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Speaker 2: we could see the number of public transport and private

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Speaker 2: vehicles coming back. And just yesterday afternoon and I was

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Speaker 2: coming back through the tunnel, you know, we could see,

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Speaker 2: you know, the congestion on the road. You know, people

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Speaker 2: are coming to coming back to our or to our province.

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Speaker 2: So it's a clear indication that the majority of people

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Speaker 2: are coming back to province. And they started on Sunday

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Speaker 2: night and then they started yesterday afternoon as well in.

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Speaker 1: Terms of arrests and inappropriate driving. Baby, what was the

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Speaker 1: concern for you over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: No, we are still confronted with people driving under the influence,

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Speaker 2: and I think that is the concern that all of

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Speaker 2: us in the country are confronted with. We still find

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Speaker 2: people without power documentation, We still find people who were

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Speaker 2: overtaken recklessly, you know, and all are concern that we

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Speaker 2: see every time whenever we have our operations, and then

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Speaker 2: the majority of people that we're arrested at the times

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Speaker 2: we find people that are under the influence.

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Speaker 1: You're part of the school within South African policymakers who

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Speaker 1: believe in a zero tolerance approach when it comes to

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Speaker 1: driving under the influence. You're part of the school who

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Speaker 1: believes drop that number to zero and that allowed black

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Speaker 1: at alcohol level.

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Speaker 2: Now, let's to be honest with you, we already have

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Speaker 2: you know, we do have measures to say, you know,

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Speaker 2: this is the thing that we're not supposed to do.

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Speaker 2: And then we welcome the announcement by the minister saying

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Speaker 2: we're going to make zero you know, alcohol testing, but

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Speaker 2: also as important as that, we need to make sure

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Speaker 2: that you know, we pive up our enforcement, you know,

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Speaker 2: in each and everybody must play their part, you know,

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Speaker 2: because we can make it zero. But if we don't enforce,

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Speaker 2: and then if people don't cooperate with us, then we're

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Speaker 2: not going to go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in two stops over the long weekend

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Speaker 1: and I happily gave over my my driver's license. I

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Speaker 1: was my my my disc was was was scanned. But

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Speaker 1: but while leave it. Surely we have the technology to

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Speaker 1: have some sort of a spot breathalyzer tests, blow into this,

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Speaker 1: look into this particular meter. Why is it only simply

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Speaker 1: a scanning of license to skin license card now Leicester.

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Speaker 2: You know, in operation it will depend on an individual.

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Speaker 2: But most of the time, you know, one once we

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Speaker 2: see someone that is suspicious and we will always let

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Speaker 2: you blow. You know, whenever we have VCPs, we always,

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Speaker 2: especially when it's busy, we do actually ask people to blow.

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Speaker 2: But also you need to apply your mind because you

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Speaker 2: can also see when someone is under the influence, and

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Speaker 2: that's what we do, and sometimes we do random you know,

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Speaker 2: drunken driving operations. Then it also depends on the day.

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Speaker 2: That's not what we do. Most of the time. Whenever

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Speaker 2: we have an operation, we always ask people to blow message.

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Speaker 1: I saw so many vehicles on the in one without

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Speaker 1: license plates, brand new vehicles where they stopped, how they

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Speaker 1: checked with cameras, Isaac, Now.

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Speaker 2: What we do you know? Because the camera cannot pick

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Speaker 2: you up. So whenever we will stop you, then we

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Speaker 2: will always have to scan because you have to get

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Speaker 2: temporary one, you know, and we have when we always

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Speaker 2: find child engines. Whenever people buy a new vehicle, they

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Speaker 2: will tell you no why I brought it from the dealer.

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Speaker 2: And then but because we are able to scan the

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Speaker 2: temporary one, we can also see the details of the vehicle,

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Speaker 2: so then we are able to tell you know whether

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Speaker 2: this one has been bought you know, legally or it's illegal.

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Speaker 2: But if you don't have a displayed then we are

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Speaker 2: able to give you a fight. But it's difficult to

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Speaker 2: detect when you don't have a license when we have

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Speaker 2: a new vehicle, because our recognition that the license plate

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Speaker 2: recognition won't be able to pick you up because you've

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Speaker 2: got a temporary one.

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Speaker 1: Isaac. We have another long weekend coming up the end

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Speaker 1: of April beginning of May. Does this festive season or

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Speaker 1: Easter weekend operation continue or does it get collapsed and

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Speaker 1: then get picks up again towards the end of April. Again.

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Speaker 2: No, Lester, we know as much as we are very

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Speaker 2: grateful that the long weekend has come to an end.

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Speaker 2: You certain terms of reporting, but in terms of us

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Speaker 2: as a department and and national or counterparts, the festive

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Speaker 2: season will end only on the fourth of May. So

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Speaker 2: we've been taking we have taken the long weekends that

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Speaker 2: are coming up into consideration. So we will continue with

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Speaker 2: the work that we have done over the weekend to

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Speaker 2: counter the long weekends that we are going to be

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Speaker 2: going into. So we will be continuing with the work

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Speaker 2: that we have been doing making sure that we're able

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Speaker 2: to bring down our numbers and we're able to save

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Speaker 2: lives on our roads.

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Speaker 1: Isaac Sleeko is the Western k provincial MEC for Mobility.

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Speaker 1: What has been your experience if you have been on

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Speaker 1: the long Road this week? And I opened up the

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Speaker 1: show saying I spent twenty hours driving not in one

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Speaker 1: go collectively over the last week, twenty hours driving one

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Speaker 1: eight hundred kilometers covered. I spent far too much money

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Speaker 1: on patrol, but what I did see was plenty of

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Speaker 1: trucks on the roads. Message says, wasn't there a rule

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Speaker 1: back in the day that heavy vehicles need to leave

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Speaker 1: a gap between another heavy vehicle in order to allow

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Speaker 1: a smaller vehicle to occasionally overtake. Not so sure about that.

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Speaker 1: We'll try and get that confirmed by what's your experience

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