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Speaker 2: Eight minutes after nine. Oh loock do Mela. Welcome to

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Speaker 2: the show on this Wednesday, the eighteenth day of March.

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Speaker 2: We'd glad that you have joined us this morning on

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Speaker 2: seven oh two. I hope you're good this morning. So

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Speaker 2: the seven or two open line starts now on oh

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Speaker 2: one one eight eight ray oh seven oh two? What's

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Speaker 2: ups on? Oh seven two, seven oh two one seven

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Speaker 2: oh two? My goodness, where do we even begin? Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's start on the continent. What the heck is going

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Speaker 2: on with keV? Can you believe that Morocco are now

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Speaker 2: the African Champions after a KREF ruling that has now

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Speaker 2: stripped Senegal off the trophy for their conduct in that

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Speaker 2: final match. It's actually quite unbelievable. Let me try give

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Speaker 2: some context for some people that may not have been

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Speaker 2: following the story. So remember Avcon we were celebrating on

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Speaker 2: the show Senegal after lifting that Afcon trophy in Morocco.

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Speaker 2: This is like what two months ago, and now the

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Speaker 2: Confederation of African Football has dramatically overtened the result. The

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Speaker 2: KAF Appeal Board declared Senegal guilty of misconduct, ruling that

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Speaker 2: the final match was forfeited and awarding Morocco at three

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Speaker 2: nil victory. And this ruling stems from Morocco's appeal which

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Speaker 2: challenged Senegal's conduct during the final clash where Senegal remember

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Speaker 2: when they walked off the pitch for about ten to

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Speaker 2: to Morocco during the final match. So cav has found

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Speaker 2: that Senegal's actions violated article eighty two and eighty four

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Speaker 2: of the AVCON regulations. Can I read those articles for you?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 2: Article eighty two of the OPCON regulation says, this article

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Speaker 2: stipulates that any team that refuses to play or leaves

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Speaker 2: the ground before the regular end of the match without

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Speaker 2: the authorization of the referee shall be considered the loser

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Speaker 2: and eliminated from the competition. That's article eighty two, which

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Speaker 2: in a way applies because Morocco did leave the pitch

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Speaker 2: before the regular end of the match without authorizing of

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Speaker 2: the referee. Now, article eighty four, which has also been violated.

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Speaker 2: According to the Appeal Board says, this feather mandates that

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Speaker 2: such a violation results in permanent elimination, with the match

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Speaker 2: awarded three nail to the opponent, unless a more favorable

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Speaker 2: score for the non offering team was already recorded. That's

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Speaker 2: what Article eighty four says. So this decision means basically, Morocco,

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Speaker 2: who lost on the pitch, are now officially recognized as

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Speaker 2: Afcon's twenty twenty five champions. Senegal is stripped off that title.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is no doubt one of the most

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Speaker 2: controversial rulings in African football history. And look, I get it,

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Speaker 2: AFCON rules stayed very clearly as I've read them to you,

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Speaker 2: walking off or refusing to play for a prolonged period

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Speaker 2: is grounds for elimination. But this decision to strip Senegal

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Speaker 2: of the av Con title two months or so after

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Speaker 2: their trophy lift is a bad look for CALF and

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Speaker 2: maybe it should be within the power of the officials

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Speaker 2: in real time to just qualify a team, or at

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Speaker 2: the very least, maybe Keev's appeal board should have suspended

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Speaker 2: Senegal from the next av Con or something. But taking

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Speaker 2: away a trophy that everyone saw them fairly win. That's

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Speaker 2: quite tragic. What are your thoughts? Are you happy with

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Speaker 2: how keV and it's Appeal Board has ruled on this matter?

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Speaker 2: And I should say it's Appeals Board because that's an

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Speaker 2: independent body really to the entire CAF. Give me a

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Speaker 2: eight eight th day, oh seven oh two. How do

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Speaker 2: you feel about this decision? What's ups on? Oh seven

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Speaker 2: now calls for the whole of Africa to protest this decision.

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Speaker 2: Some people are saying no country should take part in

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Speaker 2: you make of that proposal? I think I think it's

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Speaker 2: only fair that football should be settled on the field,

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Speaker 2: not in the boardrooms. That's not the path we want

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Speaker 2: to get to. My understanding is that Senegal will now

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Speaker 2: this decision of the Appeal Board and remain the twenty

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Speaker 2: Let me know what your thoughts are give me a

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Speaker 2: call or send me a what's up voice. Note. Also

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Speaker 2: yesterday the National Police Commission of Anima Samula contradicted the

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Speaker 2: Head of Intelligence, General Dimisani Kumalo, who said, based on

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Speaker 2: an assessment they made almost all of the officers. In fact,

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Speaker 2: I think they had said ninety percent or so of

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Speaker 5: During the analysis and the threatened DISK assessment, it had

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Speaker 5: come out that almost the whole of SAPs in how

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Speaker 2: So immediately after that comment, I was like, what that

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Speaker 2: that tells us that, then we're in trouble. Quickly got

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Speaker 2: on a call with the HOWD and Police Commissioner who

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Speaker 2: denied it and said, I don't know what this man

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Speaker 2: is talking about. This assessment is talking about. I have

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Speaker 2: no idea where that came from. Now the Police Commissioner,

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Speaker 2: Fanima Samola yesterday confirmed in Parliament that the number that

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Speaker 2: Dumisani Kumala mentioned that ninety percent or almost all of

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Speaker 2: them are compromised was actually an exaggeration. The view.

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Speaker 6: Expressed here by caftaenant General allow ahead of our crime intelligence.

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Speaker 6: That's some ninety percent of officers in how thing are

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Speaker 8: Look, look I'm aware that yes there is not only

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Speaker 8: how Dean corruption is there in other provinces also how

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Speaker 8: Deane might be more, but not I mean, how do

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Speaker 8: you come to the ninety percent? I think it's a

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Speaker 8: bit of exaggeration. The ninety percent there are men and

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Speaker 8: women that committed and doing.

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Speaker 2: Their work in that province.

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Speaker 8: I know, well he made a statement, but I think

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Speaker 8: it's a bit of maybe exageration. I don't think.

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Speaker 9: One will.

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Speaker 2: I mean how do you come to the figure? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's it, and that's the question we were asking. And

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Speaker 2: I mean there were some of you who said, why

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Speaker 2: are you questioning General Kumalo. Why he can be questioned

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Speaker 2: when you say that there's an assessment that has been made.

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Speaker 2: At the very least, let us in on how that

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Speaker 2: affect public confidence in the SAPs. That's a big statement

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Speaker 2: saying the head of Intelligence, General Kumalo, needs to come

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Speaker 2: the US's Director of National counter Terrorism Center Joe Kent,

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Speaker 2: who has now resigned over the country's war in Iran.

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Speaker 2: Remember Kent, I mean he is a longtime Trump supporter,

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Speaker 2: and he says Iran posed no imminent threat to America,

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Speaker 2: the first senior official to protest President at Donald Trump's

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Speaker 2: war in Iran. And how did Trump respond to his resignation?

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Speaker 10: Well, I rather say and I always thought he was

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Speaker 10: a nice guy, but I always thought he was weak

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Speaker 10: on security, very weak on security.

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Speaker 9: But when I read her say, and I.

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Speaker 6: Realized that it's a good thing that he's out because

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Speaker 6: he said.

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Speaker 9: That Iran was not a threat. Iran was a threat.

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Speaker 9: Every country realized what a threat Iran was.

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Speaker 6: The question is whether or not they wanted to do

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Speaker 1: If I didn't terminate Obama's horrible deal that he made,

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Speaker 1: the Iran nuclear deal.

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Speaker 9: You would have had a nuclear war four years ago.

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Speaker 2: You would have had I mean, if Iran was a threat,

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Speaker 2: imminent threat like that to America over the last forty years,

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Speaker 2: why didn't Trump also campaign on that? Why didn't he

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Speaker 2: senior member in his administration who's resigned now he calls

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Speaker 2: retired in twenty eighteen. He's got six bronze stars. That's

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Speaker 2: someone that soldiers in America would look to and say,

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Speaker 2: that's the man you're calling him weak now? What do

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Speaker 2: you think that does to the morale of the soldiers

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Speaker 2: on the ground. But hey, that's the president of the

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Speaker 2: A dear STV channel eight five six ninete and one six. Mark,

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Speaker 2: you are the first caller this morning on the seven

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Speaker 11: Good morning, Yeah, Mark really said, Clement morning. Look, I'm

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Speaker 11: fully in agreement with Senegal being stripped. I mean I

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Speaker 11: actually said when I watched the game that anybody who

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Speaker 11: and some First of all, rule number one, there is

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Speaker 11: no protest a reason in charge. You played to the whistle.

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Speaker 11: Whether you agree with the decision or not, just beside

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Speaker 11: the point. I mean, there've been millions of decisions with penalties,

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Speaker 11: free kicks, goals, they have not been awarded. You call

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Speaker 11: it the Robert the Green. Some go for you, some

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Speaker 11: go against. If you look at both penalty decisions, the

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Speaker 11: one that wasn't given for Senegal or the goal that

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Speaker 11: wasn't giving for Senegal where the guard was pushed in

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Speaker 11: the back and the penalty given to Morocco. They were

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Speaker 11: fully justified. I'm concerned if any all has a problem,

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Speaker 11: they should have then complained through the official channels, but

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Speaker 11: just to walk off the pitch and then cause chaos

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Speaker 11: and have the supporters caused chaos like this. I mean

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Speaker 11: it's no wonder that the guy missed the penalty. I

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Speaker 11: mean it was unfair for him to prepare himself for

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Speaker 11: ultimately missed the penalty. The only decision or bad decision

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Speaker 11: that cav made, they should have basically made it on

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Speaker 11: the night straight away. The referee should have called it.

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Speaker 11: I'll call that week referee and week officials. And if

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Speaker 11: the referee wouldn't have made that decision, he should have

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Speaker 11: then called in the viar or whatever other officials and

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Speaker 11: I could have made a decision right there and then

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Speaker 11: and not just two months later on once again. And

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Speaker 11: I mean, this is like what we do in Africa.

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Speaker 2: We take our time, We take our time, and I

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Speaker 2: mean that doesn't vote well for the football. And I

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Speaker 2: agree with you, Mark, because the rules are very clear

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Speaker 2: and I've read them articulated two, an articulated four and

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Speaker 2: maybe this is an opportunity for lessons here that maybe

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Speaker 2: what we knew it is should be within the powers

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Speaker 2: of the officials in real time to disqualify a team.

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Speaker 2: I mean, to come back after two months, that's quite wild. Mark,

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Speaker 2: thank you for your thoughts in Centurion. Mike, you are

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Speaker 2: in Midrant. Good morning, Good morning.

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Speaker 7: Clement, so sure, and good morning to your listeners as well.

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Speaker 7: I think, just to occur to what the previous call

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Speaker 7: I said, I think I'm on the same with you here.

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Speaker 7: I see access buzzing, like everybody is like so mad,

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Speaker 2: Is it not too extreme though?

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Speaker 2: Like, why don't you just disqualify them from the next

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Speaker 2: What does it do to to football? What does it

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Speaker 7: And I think you're actually raising a good point whether

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Speaker 13: You know this role and.

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Speaker 7: I believe that in this case they should have use

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Speaker 7: because that is one Please.

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Speaker 2: This rule absolutely, Mike in Midrand, thank you for your call.

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Speaker 14: What do you think Midland is taking it oversures every day?

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Speaker 15: Midlands taking.

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Speaker 2: Win the club.

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Speaker 14: I'm telling you, I am telling you if you you

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Speaker 16: I tell you that man lemn Oh, you know, you

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Speaker 16: When when you have worn when you have won, the

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Speaker 14: A race and the next thing they say they've detected

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Speaker 16: How do we how do we do that?

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Speaker 14: But now it's very tough and you look at it.

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Speaker 14: I think for me, Morocco and really the whole tournament,

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Speaker 16: Everything that they they taking.

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Speaker 14: The towers being like they were just irritating everybody throughout

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Speaker 14: it was not a it was not pleasing. But what

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Speaker 14: what what we're dare doing now taking away? Yeah, there's

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Speaker 14: something that we should have done than taking the trophy.

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Speaker 14: You're right, maybe then for two years, I don't know.

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Speaker 14: But rules are rules, as they say. But man, Foca

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Speaker 14: is no longer NICs were came. Everything is just changing

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Speaker 2: Of the traditional healers.

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Speaker 16: You understand, Yeah, soon enough. Let me tell you, Suon enough,

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Speaker 16: you and theire are gonna have trouble do we don't

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Speaker 14: We don't want some.

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Speaker 16: Of you on the croud, but we see you the

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Speaker 2: That you guys, achieve.

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Speaker 16: Clement, you smell.

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Speaker 2: I could just tell, but that's in Midland. Thank you, guys.

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Speaker 2: I really think that Senegal has a chance at the

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Speaker 2: I'm actually looking at this ruling, at this article eighty two. Again,

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Speaker 2: it says the article stipulates that any team that refuses

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Speaker 2: we didn't abandon the game. The match was completed by

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Speaker 2: the Court of arbitration. But I there's possibly a chance

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Speaker 17: Good morning, Clement on the chase of Morocco and Senegal.

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Speaker 17: I just want to find out why do they did

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Speaker 17: And then on the other hand, I just want to

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Speaker 2: Why is the man? Thank you Hendri from Protector Henry.

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Speaker 2: I've seen the rumors, so let's explain to other listeners

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Speaker 2: it to you. It's a video of Mike Huckabee. Remember

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Speaker 2: Mike Hackabee is the American ambassador to Israel. He went

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Speaker 2: they've done a whole video where Mike Hackabee enters this

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Speaker 2: Trump said I must come and check if you're alive.

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Speaker 2: And you can see bib Neto walking out there and

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Speaker 2: And then on this card a list of people that

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Speaker 2: video that I got, in fact, about an hour ago,

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Speaker 2: that confirms, if you will, from Mike Hukkabis, that babyb

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Speaker 2: Nettau is so very much alive. I hope that answers

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Speaker 2: your question. It's ninety eighty one, your voice, your station,

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Speaker 2: your in line, walk to talk with Clem.

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Speaker 1: I'm seven eighteen.

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Speaker 2: It's twenty five minutes before ten outlock. This is the

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Speaker 9: Yes, Mike, Yes, I'm alive.

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Speaker 2: I checked that, and I'm happy to see that. But

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Speaker 9: Well, I know.

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Speaker 18: And we shake hands with five centers in each hand,

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Speaker 18: you know, But I have to tell you I'm alive.

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Speaker 18: But I have this card and yeah, don't read it.

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Speaker 18: So it's a punch card. Today I raised two names

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Speaker 2: You know what the good news is, my name is

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Speaker 2: not on the punch card.

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Speaker 9: Your name is on the list of the good, good guy.

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Speaker 12: Thank you.

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Speaker 18: And what the President, the US forces I'm doing, it

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Speaker 18: is incredible. We're very proud to stand and shorten the

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Speaker 18: shoulder over them and getting rid of these lunatics would

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Speaker 18: like to develop nuclear weapons and the means to deliver

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Speaker 9: After wiping out issue, they're going to do that.

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Speaker 2: We're wiping then we are wiping them out. That's what

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Speaker 2: and I see a lot of you are asking, but clemon,

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Speaker 2: how do you know that this is not AI? You

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Speaker 2: never know these days. You know, this is actually my

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Speaker 2: what is not. Do you understand that, Like people can

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Speaker 2: are talking about some amazing scheme, some pyramid scheme where

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Speaker 2: Like people legitimately believe things like that. But I've seen that.

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Speaker 2: Mike Kakabe posted this clip Benjamin Nettinau as well. I've

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Speaker 2: just gone to your social media page. He also posted

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Speaker 2: now the Mike Kakabe's official Twitter account. He posted this

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Speaker 2: video and sor did Benjamin Nettinhau you believe it or not?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, you decide, but this is what these

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Speaker 2: two officials have said about their suppose it interaction. Let's

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Speaker 2: go to your WhatsApps, George Bradley, Bonnie, I see, You'll

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Speaker 2: come to you in a moment, High Clement.

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Speaker 4: I think you see with regards to Trump, I wouldn't

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Speaker 4: really deny it if someone was saying, probably Israel is

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Speaker 4: actually blackmailing into doing something that he originally might not

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Speaker 4: have wanted to do, because it seems as if he

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Speaker 4: is now more involved in the world with Iran than

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Speaker 4: Israel itself.

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Speaker 9: Like I don't know what's happening.

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Speaker 4: I think he is being cornered somewhere somehow there's information

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Speaker 4: probably that he don't want to have leaked or something,

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Speaker 4: because how he is acting. I don't think there's a

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Speaker 4: normal person that can act like that.

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Speaker 2: I mean the even Republicans who have said, what the

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Speaker 2: hell is going on here? His supporters, So Trump has

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Speaker 2: like a base of support. Like let's take podcasters for instance.

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Speaker 2: If you know Tacker Calson, that's a man who worked

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Speaker 2: for Fox News for decades, I think who has always

452
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Speaker 2: supported Trump. If you know Meghan Keley, someone who worked

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Speaker 2: at Fox News for decades, always supported Trump even when

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Speaker 2: it didn't make sense. If you know Candice Owens, if

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Speaker 2: you know Charlie Kirk, all these people except Charlie now

456
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Speaker 2: because he's no more. But before he even died, he

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Speaker 2: raised concerns about the war in the Middle East and

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Speaker 2: how America is busy taking decisions on its foreign policy

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Speaker 2: based on the interests of Israel and not on the

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Speaker 2: interests of America. And now Meghan Keyley, Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens,

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Speaker 2: these are like influential fared podcast does in America. Who

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Speaker 2: I mean, Kennis Owens podcast is in the number one

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Speaker 2: podcast in the entire world. That's what came out a

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Speaker 2: couple of months ago. I don't know which podcast now

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Speaker 2: is the top, but a few months ago I think

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Speaker 2: it ay this year, if not in December, Kenn this

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Speaker 2: Owens show was number one in the world. All these

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Speaker 2: guys have turned their back around Trump. They still support

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Speaker 2: him in some way, but they disagree with the decision

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Speaker 2: to be fighting in Iran because it simply doesn't make

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Speaker 2: sense for the Americans. It's nineteen minutes now before ten o'clock, your.

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Speaker 1: Voice, your station, your Alton line, both at all on

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Speaker 1: seven eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Back to your calls on one one eight eight, three

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Speaker 2: oh seven oh two. Bonnie, You're calling us from Durban.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of this decision by the Coff's

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Speaker 2: appeal board. Hello, Bonnie, Bonnie, Bonnie, Hey Tara, go ahead, brother,

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Speaker 2: you're on the radio.

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Speaker 12: Well, let me let me make it.

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Speaker 15: I wanted to to to just explain something, but I

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Speaker 15: think an example will suffice. So let's say during that game,

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Speaker 15: something happened next and and maybe let's make an example

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Speaker 15: of a player from Morocco would have done something that

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Speaker 15: warranted a band, maybe during the extra the extra time,

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Speaker 15: a band for some time, for some years or whatever

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Speaker 15: the case. Would we now go back and say, because

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Speaker 15: at that time the game should have been should have

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Speaker 15: not continued? Are we are we rendering that decision to

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Speaker 15: ban that particular player not Voyd. The simple point I'm

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Speaker 15: making is the officials let the game continue, and then,

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Speaker 15: I mean the game continued, so the revenue decisions could

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Speaker 15: be finer, yeacause now I mean we have to then

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Speaker 15: go back and say, Revere, we have to sanction the Revere.

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Speaker 15: Then if the reveree was supposed to to to to

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Speaker 15: abandon the game, if he was supposed to and he didn't.

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Speaker 2: Do that, and what what is abandoning the game? Bonnie?

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Speaker 2: Because I think we must then define that is abandoning

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Speaker 2: the game walking off the pitch completely and not coming back,

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Speaker 2: or is it walking off the pitch and then coming

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Speaker 2: back after ten, fifteen or twenty minutes, whatever the time.

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Speaker 15: Is exactly my point.

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Speaker 16: They didn't.

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Speaker 15: They didn't abandon the game. And I also wanted to

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Speaker 15: make a point on tramp quickly what I've I've come

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Speaker 15: to realize about him. The minute you disagree with him,

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Speaker 15: you are either week in the case of the media,

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Speaker 15: you disagree with him, or your question him, your fakes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even Liver Tucker Carlson, you know, he he he

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Speaker 2: loves Tucker. I mean Trump loves Tucker Calson so much

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Speaker 2: that even before Trump went to war with Iran, Tucker

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Speaker 2: Caulson met with Trump and tried to tell him, don't

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Speaker 2: do it. That's how close they are. Tucker. Trump is

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Speaker 2: also close to Kendice Owen to a point that he

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Speaker 2: has called Kendice Owens before to even intervene in Kendice

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Speaker 2: Owens fight with the French president and his wife. So

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to demonstrate that he's got people that are

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Speaker 2: very close to him. But the minute Candice and tuckers

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Speaker 2: that disagreeing with him. Then he starts saying, Oh, they're

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Speaker 2: terrible anyway, They've never really been for for for for America.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that's that's really Donald Trump. You can't disagree.

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Speaker 2: If you disagree with him, or you say no, then

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Speaker 2: you're in trouble. Remember the French president. He told the

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Speaker 2: French president come and joined the board of peace. French

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Speaker 2: president said no, not interested. Then he said, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to impose two hundred percent tariffs on your wines and champagnes.

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Speaker 2: Who does that? Spain? He said to Spain, come come

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Speaker 2: help us here in Iran. Can we maybe fly off

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Speaker 2: our planes from our from your basis? Just come and

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Speaker 2: incorperate with us in a way. Spain said, we're not

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Speaker 2: getting involved. And then he said, cut all trade with Spain. Guys,

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Speaker 2: that is not normal, no matter how much you support

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Speaker 2: the man, that is not a normal thing to do that.

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Speaker 2: Every time someone disagrees with you or doesn't take the

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Speaker 2: proposal you make, you just make a unilateral decision like

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Speaker 2: that to just cut trade, to impose two hundred French champagne,

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Speaker 2: which is going to affect the very same Americans. How

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Speaker 2: is that rational? How Bradley you're and Merton, good morning

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Speaker 2: hate sadah, oh you good, good man, go ahead.

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Speaker 12: I'm not I'm not a standing point of being good.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I tell you.

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Speaker 19: Let me just quick clear run over what I was thinking.

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Speaker 19: CUFF did overten its own rules of the game, because

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Speaker 19: even if you take rule eighty four that you were

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Speaker 19: talking about, it doesn't say anything an inference into when

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Speaker 19: the game is a final or not get what I'm saying,

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Speaker 19: but the final is got a cup at the end

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Speaker 19: of the day, and once you commission a cup.

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Speaker 12: Then you're gonna take it away. There's no rule that

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Speaker 12: says that you get.

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Speaker 19: What I'm saying, isn't here right, So there could have

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Speaker 19: been an inference dot one or dot two that says

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Speaker 19: when it's a final and stuff. Now imagine what all

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Speaker 19: that is going around or over the cup they've celebrated.

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Speaker 19: They didn't take their own twenty two hours to review

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Speaker 19: the complaint that Morocco laid on. And we's gonna pay

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Speaker 19: for all the celebrity celebrations and festivities that followed. We's

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Speaker 19: gonna is calf gonna do that because it once gave

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Speaker 19: sene Or the cup and they did over day to.

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Speaker 12: Do about yeah, but now they take it that way.

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Speaker 2: But listen to this overturning your own rules. Listen to this, Bradley.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking because I've got the rules printed here with me.

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Speaker 2: So here, here's what under the exceptions and technicalities, this

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Speaker 2: is what the rules say, right, referee permission. Teams are

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Speaker 2: only legally permitted to leave the pitch for genuine safety concerns,

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Speaker 2: crowd violence or emergencies, or with the referee's explicit instruction.

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Speaker 2: And then listen to this restarted play. If a team

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Speaker 2: returns and a referee restarts play, which is what happened here,

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Speaker 2: they may avoid immediate disqualification, but they remain subject to

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Speaker 2: retroactive disciplinary action that can still overten the final result.

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Speaker 2: Do you get that? So even if you came back

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Speaker 2: and they they were going to make a decision much later,

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Speaker 2: the point is your action can be judged and the

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Speaker 2: final result can be overturned. In the case of the cup,

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Speaker 2: what do you mean by cup?

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Speaker 19: Like gus In who left they let the game finish.

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Speaker 19: I understand, yeah, But in terms of the influence, I'm

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Speaker 19: saying that you award a cup, then.

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Speaker 12: You take it away again. You get what I'm saying?

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Speaker 2: So once the coup is awarded, I get you.

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Speaker 19: Yes, once the coup has been awarded, is it reversed

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Speaker 19: like in a game, That's what I'm saying. No, But

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Speaker 19: this is a cup final and you awarded it to

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Speaker 19: the people. The owners of the cup received it, and

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Speaker 19: they actually did the better on the ground, not in

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Speaker 19: the office.

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Speaker 12: You understand what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: No, I get what you're saying, Bradley in Martin. What

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Speaker 2: happens there in that case? I mean the result has

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Speaker 2: now been overturned, As this rule says, if a team

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Speaker 2: returns in the referee rikarts play, they may avoid immediate disqualification,

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Speaker 2: but they remain subject to that disciplinary action that can

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Speaker 2: still overten that final result. But Bradley's asking, in the

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Speaker 2: case of a cop.

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Speaker 16: What do you do?

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Speaker 2: Mm? So is Morocco in name going to be the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five You know ave come champions? But really

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Speaker 2: all of us know who are the champions? How does

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Speaker 2: it work? George in johannes Burg High.

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Speaker 12: How are you a tlements good good man?

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Speaker 13: Go ahead, let me start with the question, Uh, do

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Speaker 13: we have any rule which can change the Revere's decision?

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Speaker 16: Have ever had?

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Speaker 13: Have we ever heard about that the Revere's decision on

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Speaker 13: the field, somebody said to the reveree, you mustn't do this,

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Speaker 13: and then and then the reveree.

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Speaker 12: Change his mind.

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Speaker 2: Do we have that rule, not that I'm aware of.

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Speaker 13: No, we don't have. So the Revere's decision is final.

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Speaker 13: That is why even the the penalty, most people or

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Speaker 13: most of us inter myself, we don't think that's a penalty.

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Speaker 13: But because the Revere decision, we can't tend it otherwise.

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Speaker 13: So the reverence decision stay segal one. That's it unless

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Speaker 13: a butt at clause where we can say one can

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Speaker 13: say the referee mustn't do this, and do this.

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Speaker 12: I'm sure you have that.

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Speaker 13: Let's look to the reverie decision.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but George, sometimes the referee will say let's restart

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Speaker 2: the play and continue with the match, not because something

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Speaker 2: that happened has been finalized, Because maybe that's because they

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Speaker 2: want to allow for time to do further investigations and

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Speaker 2: go watch the video again and see what happened before it.

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Speaker 2: Decision can then be made. So a referee also has

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Speaker 2: a right to go, Okay, I am not sure how

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Speaker 2: we're going to operate here, but let's resume play. And

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Speaker 2: then later on the right body will investigate and make

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Speaker 2: the final decision, which it has in this case, after

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Speaker 2: Morocco raised those object actions.

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Speaker 13: Okay, let's go to the penalty shoot out. If two

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Speaker 13: five given, first five penalties, the first other fight mystery penalties,

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Speaker 13: the other fighter score three penalties, normally they don't play

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Speaker 13: the remaining two.

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Speaker 12: I don't know if we get on because.

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Speaker 13: For automatically even the yeah so you know, yeah, so,

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Speaker 13: why in this case the proceed because even if the

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Speaker 13: guy can score twenty four goals.

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Speaker 20: They can win the game.

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Speaker 2: Why that's a.

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Speaker 13: That's a fair one hundred games, fifty or one thousand goals,

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Speaker 13: they can win the game. Why as supposed to?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's that's fair. That's that's a fair point.

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Speaker 2: You're raising. George and Johannes back, thank you, Let's go

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Speaker 2: to your what's ups.

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Speaker 21: Good morning, Clement, Good morning Madameta. Look, Clement, two wrongs

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Speaker 21: don't make it right. I think we were all aware

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Speaker 21: that Morocco was a really difficult country to host and

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Speaker 21: to play against. Therefore, I don't think Senegal is justified

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Speaker 21: by walking off the field.

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Speaker 2: They should have stayed.

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Speaker 21: I think they disrespected spectators they disrespected mess officials. I

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Speaker 21: think at the end of everything, people should have all

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Speaker 21: these countries should have laid a complained against Morocco and

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Speaker 21: reaching to care about how unpleasant the tournament was. But

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Speaker 21: you don't decide to walk off the field when the

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Speaker 21: rules is you should remain. I think this is a

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Speaker 21: good example, and also for young upcoming sports professionals, you

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Speaker 21: need to understand that.

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Speaker 2: They are rules.

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Speaker 21: You can't break the rules and get away with it.

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Speaker 21: It doesn't matter how long it took for their outcome.

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Speaker 21: I think they needed to do proper investigations and check

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Speaker 21: the legalities of everything. Therefore, I think it's it's right

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Speaker 21: Morocco Cenical deserves what they got.

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Speaker 22: I Clement the care fooling is just sambolic. Men I

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Speaker 22: know are saying rules are rules, But in accounting we

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Speaker 22: have something called substance over form, where you have to

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Speaker 22: look at the substance of the matter over the actual form.

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Speaker 2: You can't just apply the rule blindly.

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Speaker 22: I believe Morocco brought the game into disrepute in the

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Speaker 22: way they behaved, so in saying that you have to

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Speaker 22: apply your mind to the rules, I mean, like the example,

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Speaker 22: I'm gonna use a better extreme. But a party was

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Speaker 22: a rule. It was a law that wasn't forced, but

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Speaker 22: it was all wrong, you know. Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 22: what's happening with care but whatever, first, whatever, fast. This

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Speaker 22: whole situation is Morocco really really behaved badly and brought

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Speaker 22: the game into disrepute, and really it was really nice

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Speaker 22: to work from them. I hope our senecal ure just

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Speaker 22: this and I hope that's accessful in the challenge Chase.

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Speaker 23: Clement to me, I don't I don't see any wrong

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Speaker 23: with the pod Tea, with the Senegal and brocka situation. Yeah,

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Speaker 23: if you walk away from the pitch for only even

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Speaker 23: a minute or like almost all.

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Speaker 9: The players walked out, so what.

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Speaker 23: They were thinking, then the other team wins, walks away

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Speaker 23: with three points, then they win.

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Speaker 9: I'm wondering about the Cup.

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Speaker 24: I mean, with the World Cup and African Combinations, all

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Speaker 24: these kind of tournaments, it's a thirteen turphy, so it

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Speaker 24: stays with the country until the next World Cup. So yeah,

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Speaker 24: I'm just wondering what was the trophy engraved. I mean

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Speaker 24: they might have been graved already in the winner for this, Yeah,

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Speaker 24: that would be a bit of a bother with.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, good morning Clement, Clement. I just want to know

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Speaker 25: what is actually going to happen about the whole drama

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Speaker 25: of keV.

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Speaker 9: Decision.

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Speaker 25: Things like what's going to be happening about the Cup?

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Speaker 25: I mean, obviously Saneca on the cup that being engraved

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Speaker 25: as the twenty twenty five CAF Championship champions. And what

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Speaker 25: about the medals? Are they going to be taken off

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Speaker 25: from Seneca be given the silver ones and the ones

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Speaker 25: that were given to Morocco being the silver is going

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Speaker 25: to be given as gold?

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Speaker 2: Now, really this is confusing.

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Speaker 9: You know, Tabajano once said.

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Speaker 25: Football will kill you real death. This is so confusing. Hi,

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Speaker 25: this is the wohof from Coca.

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Speaker 1: Your voice, your station, your parting lie they on seven two.

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Speaker 26: Hi Clement, you're Americans, Americans? Is people voted for Trump?

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Speaker 26: Not once, Clement, not once twice twice? Look at the

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Speaker 26: mess way in Now I know and I give up

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Speaker 26: on Americans. What an absolute mess?

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Speaker 2: Good morning Clement, and teim Clement.

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Speaker 9: Unless I do not know how.

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Speaker 10: The American politics works, maybe someone must school me. Why

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Speaker 10: is always the blame going to Trump? Trump is not

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Speaker 10: the American king, He's the American president. So there is

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Speaker 10: the American Congress that supports his decisions or that actually

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Speaker 10: is instructing him to do that. Maybe someone must just

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Speaker 10: enlighten us. It cannot be that Donald Champiece now all

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Speaker 10: of a sudden a king. Then it just takes decisions

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Speaker 10: will In Neil Sip from timbs Sipple.

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Speaker 2: He has been taking decisions will in needly. This is

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Speaker 2: not the first time that he doesn't even consult Congress.

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Speaker 2: My understanding is he consulted. So in American politics, there's

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Speaker 2: there's a group called the Group of twenty. I think

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Speaker 2: these are These are congressmen, like twenty of them that

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Speaker 2: you can just talk to and say, hey, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: send soldiers here, We're gonna invade this country or whatever

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Speaker 2: the decision is when it comes to war or military intervention.

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Speaker 2: And the Trump administration has claimed that, no, we did

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Speaker 2: speak to this Group of twenty. But when you go

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Speaker 2: to war that needs congressional approval. And even with the

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Speaker 2: military intervention in Venezuela when they went and abducted hey,

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Speaker 2: and we've just swiftly moved the law. Hey, a whole

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Speaker 2: country went and abducted a prayer resident of a sovereign

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Speaker 2: state even then there was no congressional approval. But they

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Speaker 2: I think they're finding loopholes around how to go about it.

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Speaker 2: But this has always been happening in the US. It's

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Speaker 2: been happening, and there are people who actually disagree with

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump, but who are seemingly scared. Which is why

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Speaker 2: Joe Kent's resignation is quite significant, because this is a

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Speaker 2: very senior person in the security apparatus in the US

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Speaker 2: who says, I can't do this, not on good conscience. Hey, elliots,

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Speaker 2: you're calling us from deep good morning at a sociore brother,

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, he jo shop.

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Speaker 20: I'm alright. I just wanted to find out now, but

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Speaker 20: this is a game. They wanted to find out, Like

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Speaker 20: people like a lot of money for that tournament. Yeah,

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Speaker 20: and now that there is always been reserved reverse, can

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Speaker 20: we still get our winnings or that one?

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Speaker 2: That's the big quest question, Alias, That's what everybody has

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Speaker 2: been asking. I've also put out some messages to some

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Speaker 2: guys at have to find out what happens to the

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Speaker 2: people that have taken bats. So I hope if they respond, Alias,

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Speaker 2: I'll just announce it on the on the radio what

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Speaker 2: the process will be. But I mean, this is all messy.

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Speaker 2: You've heard questions about even the cup, what happens It

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Speaker 2: is probably engraved. I mean it definitely is engraved by now.

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Speaker 2: So all those processes still haven't been explained. But that's

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Speaker 2: one of the questions bats have been taken of people

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Speaker 2: who said Morocco will win. They lost, but Morocco has

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Speaker 2: now clearly is the champion. What happens in that regard