1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:00,960 Speaker 1: Quite safe. 2 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: Talk on two one double four six oh five six seven. 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 2: That is the number to dial if you have a 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: motor in question to put to Ernest page of Change Cars, 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 2: dot Co, dot Zetter and All Things Motrinky is standing 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: by to answer some of your questions and also to 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: bring us another one of their very interesting video comparison 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: as stories. Ernest, it's great to have you back with 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: us as always, Thanks for your time and welcome to 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: the show. 11 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: Fantastic to be that FORBA, and we've got a lot 12 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: to talk about. Were busy with the second part of 13 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: our Fortune Universus Everest Battle we Leave Battle we calling it, 14 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: and that's getting loaded in the next coming days. But 15 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: we've got the first part online on the All Things 16 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: Motoring website and it's really got quite a few views, 17 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: a lot of comments, a lot of interest because it's 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: I think relevant comparisons. And one of the things that 19 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: I've always spoken about publicly is that maybe we shouldn't 20 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: buy brand new cars all the time. Maybe you know, 21 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: as a moting journalist, it's obvious EXPLICTI that costo me 22 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: because you know, I'm in the business of talking about 23 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: new cause. But at the same time, sometimes it might 24 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: be better to look at something like a twenty twenty 25 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: four Everest versus a twenty twenty four for Tuna, which 26 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: is often the kind of question that we could ask 27 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: by listeners. So it's really a pleasure to be part 28 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: of something like this. I wasn't on camera, and I'm 29 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: actually enjoying being in Magazine's position where I'm the producer 30 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: of the show. So it's been fun to be behind 31 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: the camera, set the shoots up and just try and 32 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: create something that people can enjoy watching, but also giving 33 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: them the information that's relevant, such as what these CAUs 34 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: are like to drive live with, fuel consumption, pricing, etc. 35 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: And then eventually coming to some sort of conclusion about 36 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: which one might and Nikki, the presenters of the show, 37 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: will choose. 38 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: Okay, so we don't want to preempt the whole video, 39 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: But Ernest, I mean, what is it about these two 40 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: They're the biggest selling SUVs in South Africa? What is 41 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: it that has made them occupy that dominant space? 42 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? I know, it certainly has been dominant, especially for 43 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: that Fortuna, and I think a large part of the 44 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: dominance is based on badge. And we're going to be 45 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: talking about again another Chinese brand that's coming to South 46 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: Africa and that's changing currently, that is changing, but at 47 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: the moment, Tiota Ford DW and that badge in the 48 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: front of those cars will mean something. So I've never 49 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: liked a Fortuna. I've never been a fan. The first 50 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: time I drove it, I couldn't believe how not good 51 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: it was according to me, because why are some why 52 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: do people love this? And I would ask owners of 53 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: the car, why do you guys love this car so much? 54 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: And you know it was interesting, But what has happened 55 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: since there's twenty twenty models and up to a new one. 56 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: Fota have made incremental changes over and over and over 57 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: to the car. And I think the current Fortuna is 58 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: actually a very good car, but we're talking about the 59 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty model now and I'm not a big fan. 60 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: I don't like the interior, I don't like the way 61 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: the shatty field, the way the car feels quite valid. 62 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: We it feels heavy and a lot of this was 63 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: discussed in the video. 64 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: Right. 65 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: There is something that the Fourteena has that the Ford 66 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: Everest doesn't have, and that is reliability and resell value, 67 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: and those are huge factors. When you're buying a big 68 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: family car that's supposed to do duty for the next 69 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: three to five years, and then when you sell it, 70 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: you're going to buy the next big family car that's 71 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: supposed to supposed to do duty for another three to 72 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: five years. And I think, as someone like yourself that 73 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: owns a hundred, you sell value and reliability are important. 74 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So if if the Fortuner wins on reliability 75 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: and resale value, where does the Everest stand out. 76 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: The Everest on performance based well, on paper performance funny 77 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: enough to contigitional word, but let's just say that Everest 78 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: might Fortuna might have won on the drag strip, but 79 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: when it comes to actual feel, both the costs cost 80 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: the same. In fact, the Everest costs less, but Everest 81 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: actually feels like a much more expensive card. It's got 82 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: lots more features, it's a lot lot more modern, it 83 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: drives a lot nicer. It's better to look at. The 84 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: styling is fantastic, the interiors up to date, even for 85 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: the previous gen model. I think this is one of 86 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: those calls that, other than the perceived reliability of the 87 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: wet valve engine technology, I think it's one of those 88 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: calls that almost didn't need an update. You know, it 89 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: was almost really really good and holding its own even 90 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: against the current cause answer a light before Tuna and 91 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: Isuzu's n ux SUV, So it didn't really need an 92 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: update according to most. And this one just holds it 93 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: holds it to look it looks like a modern car. 94 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 1: It won our styling sort of competition that we have internally, 95 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: and then also the interior. But there is the question 96 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: and two big questions. The one with a Ford is reliability, 97 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: because I've spoken to a colleague of Mind that knows 98 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: about these CAUs itself a lot of these CAUs and 99 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: he says the reliability issues that Ford has had with 100 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: the engines hadn't affected the Everest nearly as much as 101 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: it has the Bucky by the Ranger Bucky. But perceived 102 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: reliability is the thing. If you talk about the French 103 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: car for examples, the question of part availability is always 104 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: going to come up, regardless of what Rena has been 105 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: doing the last couple of years to negate that. So 106 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: I think the same applies to the Ford Everest. You're 107 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: going to ask yourself a question, am I going to 108 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: have issues with this engine? Down the line, does it 109 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: use the same wetbel technology that's been problematic and it's 110 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: probably going to get phased out in the coming years 111 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: because it's been so problematic. And these are the kind 112 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: of questions that people ask. And then Mike and Nicky 113 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: had some interesting debates back and forth on camera because 114 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: then it gets hit back to the fact that and 115 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,679 Speaker 1: as I've always said that we're not as highly affected 116 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 1: as Jannersberg when it comes to cast theft and II jackings. 117 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: But when you look at the latest stats, we're trailing 118 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: in second or third position. And I've had a family 119 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: member the polo stolen recently, so now it's eating close 120 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: to help. And you look at the Fortuna, it is 121 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: a higher risk when it comes to theft, and the 122 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: FOURD just isn't so Again, I think a lot of 123 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: these questions get the answers to these questions get put 124 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: on the lap of the consumer, although Mike and Nikki 125 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: did choose their answers, but at the end of the day, 126 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: I think what's important to the consumer, what they're willing 127 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: to live with, warranties, insurance claims, et cetera, et cetera. 128 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: It makes it a really compelling case because these cars 129 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: are both very very good at what they do and 130 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: the numbers in the cell double story. 131 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: Okay, So if our listeners want to go and watch 132 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: the videos to get the end depth story and take 133 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: a look at comparative off road abilities and all the 134 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: other things we haven't discussed today, Ernest, where do they 135 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: find that video? 136 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: They can go to All Things Motoring on YouTube. We 137 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: haven't done any offerating in this specific video. This is 138 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: just for the day to day we have on the channel, 139 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: though you can find we've got Bucky battles with offer 140 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: loading with extreme aufering and loading them with one tons 141 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: of sand, et cetera. So we've done that also, But 142 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: this one is more a sort of shopping car day 143 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: to day because a lot of these cars never see 144 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: before by fourteen and that was kind of the angle 145 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: that we were going with on this one. 146 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: Okay, So check it out on YouTube. You're looking for 147 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: the All Things Motoring challenge to watch the Fortune of 148 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: versus Everest battle. Ernest, thanks for tipping us off that 149 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: that's there. With that, we're going to open the lines 150 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: for listener questions two to one, four, four, six, five, six, seven, 151 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: and what'sapps to seven two five six seven one five 152 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: six seven. Just before we take our first question for 153 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: Michael Ernest, you mentioned something about a little known Chinese 154 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: brand that you're going to us. I think you're busy 155 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: investigating today and not going to give us some feedback 156 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: next week. 157 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: Indeed, I'm at the Chang'an launch and we've spoken about 158 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: then one of them. Yeah, chang Dan. That's one of 159 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: the oldest manufacturers in China and they are now having 160 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: a big offensive inter South Africa. They're launching a new 161 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: car in the coming days, and the passing on that 162 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: cause actually very competitive. It's called the Unis and it 163 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: goes for from three hundred and eighty nine thousand, and 164 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: of course it's fully kitted out. That comes with a 165 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: five year warranty and service plan which is one hundred 166 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: and fifty thousand kilometer warranty and the ninety thousand kilometer 167 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: service plan. I've driven the previous one of the previous models, 168 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: which I thought was good, but it did feel a 169 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: little bit dated in its tech and application, and I 170 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: think that's usually what happens. They send the older models here, 171 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: first build up the sort of infrastructure and then start 172 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: launching the current models, which this one is. And the 173 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: one complaint I had with the previous one was that 174 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: there was no space under the gear lever where most 175 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: cause these days don't have sort of a balkhead section there. 176 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: They've actually got a space for storage, and this is 177 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: one of the things that's been addressed. They're saying that 178 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: the interior feels a lot more spacious on this Uni 179 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: s One part of advice that I think I'm going 180 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: to pass up to them today is the name Changan. 181 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of the name, and Depaal is 182 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: the other brand as well. Yeah, so it's interesting to 183 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: see those names will become household names over the coming years, 184 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: or if they will get changed for the manufacturer for 185 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: the local market. But yet another Chinese car hits our shores, 186 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: and again the consumer wins with options, pricing and availability 187 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: of competition and. 188 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: A brand new SUV from three hundred and eighty nine 189 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 2: thousand rand. Okay, yeah, check it out if you're interested. 190 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: The chung gun unis the car we're discussing there. Okay. 191 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: With that, we move into the territory of perhaps some 192 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 2: more familiar brands to our audience. Michael, thank you, for 193 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: your patients and waiting for an answer on your question 194 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: about a Perjo. He is interested in a pier Jeou 195 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: wanted the three to eight, but he says that's been discontinued, 196 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 2: so he's now considering the two double eight. I would 197 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: like to know your opinion on that particular car and 198 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: the brand generally. 199 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: So the brand generally has done very good things over 200 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. It is still a niche 201 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: brand in South Africa, and with that comes the niche 202 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: brand issues. And when you look at those types of cause, 203 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: if they're in their home market, then obviously you know 204 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: it's a best seller. When it comes to its own 205 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: market in South Africa, it's very niche. My uncle has 206 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: a Pughow, his family drives Pughows and they absolutely love 207 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: those CAUs So, Michael Cox, I think it is. I 208 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: think it's a very good cause, got size maneuverability, It's 209 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: shorter and narrower than the three double eight, it's easier 210 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: to park, great driving positions. Please note that Acusho has 211 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: a very specific driving position and a very specific steering position. 212 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, they've done this weird thing where their ergonomics 213 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: scientists and whatever you want to call them. Designers have 214 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: said that you need to be able to see the 215 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: dials through the top half of the steering wheel, so 216 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: you don't have the steering wheel sort of higher up. 217 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: You've got it lower down. You can see all the 218 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: dials through there. So it's a specific driving style that 219 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: you get used to it. But if you add two 220 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: cars and you have to chop and change between two cars, 221 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: I think it's a bit weird. If you've got two 222 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: pu shows, then that's a different conversation. The transmission is 223 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: very smooth in the automatic options, it's very few, economical, 224 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: stylish design, comfortable ride. Like most Pugeos and Cituenes are 225 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: lots of tech. You want to look for the one 226 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: with the review camera or parking sensors. My uncle's one 227 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: is just a parking sensor and it's easy to maneuver. 228 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: So I do think it's a very very good option 229 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: the pugure range in general. But you do again have 230 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: to realize that it is a very niche car, and 231 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: with niche car comes niche car problems. My uncle did 232 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: have to wait for some parts. He is sourcing other suppliers. 233 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: When it comes to fixing the pause, you've got now 234 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: a Pugeo specialist that is out of my approved He 235 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: was looking for someone out of my approof because otherwise 236 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: you'd have to go to directly to future and the 237 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: price that they're gave in for the Cambell change, which 238 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: was the routine. There wasn't anything special by that was 239 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: very expensive at the dealers, which it often is. So 240 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: I think that's just a normal problem that Uncle Fred had, 241 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: But he's sworn by Pugures from any many years. I 242 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: think there are good cause, but again unfortunately they just 243 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: don't have the support that they might have in Europe. 244 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: But if it's the kind of car you want and 245 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: you want to stand us from the cloud, I think 246 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: it's a good one to go for. 247 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: Okay, Michael, thanks again for your patients and waiting for 248 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: that feedback and appreciate the homework there. Ernest interesting comment 249 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: from Russ taking us back to the Toyota versus for debate. 250 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 2: His comment is how massive brand loyalty is. He says 251 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: it would take me a lot to change brands in 252 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,599 Speaker 2: the future. And he says that he says, sitting comfortably 253 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: in my three hundred and fifty thousand kilometer twenty ten 254 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: high lucks. Okay, Yeah, we are creatures of habits, ernest. 255 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: If you've had a good experience with the brand, you 256 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: tend to stick with it. 257 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: Indeed, and this is why I love hearing from the 258 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: audience and getting their feedback. I mean that high LIKEX 259 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: is never going to let him down. You'll sell it 260 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: for the same price you bought it for. You know, 261 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: it's one of those vehicles that is so dependable and trustworthy. 262 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: So I totally understand and my certainly my philosophy view 263 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: days is if it's not broken, don't fix it. And 264 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 1: if you enjoy your car, and you have to do 265 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: with your car, and it's got all the feat for 266 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: the most part, all you need is econ power stating 267 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: an electric window, then enjoy the car for as long 268 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: as you can without having to get another bigger installment 269 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: with all the hustle that comes with that. 270 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: Okay, enjoy and Matt keep going for many more thousands 271 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 2: of kilometers. Russ. Okay, let's go back to the WhatsApp 272 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: line and the following question. Justin we are a senior 273 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: couple with a Honda CRV twenty twelve that's got one 274 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand kilometers on the clock. We're finding 275 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 2: it difficult to park and also now a bit big 276 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 2: no kids, but we do have a large ridgeback. So 277 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: we are looking for a similar quality affordable, smaller car, 278 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 2: high seating and good visibility and automatic as well. The commentists, 279 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: we've seen lots of Daihatsu Terrios in our area, but 280 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: know that Daihatso has left the country. Would this be 281 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 2: a good secondhand option and what else could we consider? 282 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: Father and note that Terrios is a good off smush 283 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: fad once she loved it because it's based on a Tyota. 284 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: But then you know you're having you're looking for problems 285 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: if there's a call that's no longer manufactured. I think 286 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: if you find a good one. As far as I know, 287 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: they are very reliable and have. As I said, Toyota 288 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: pots to go through the rest of your considerations where 289 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: it comes to parking. I looked at that Honda I 290 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: think it's the CorV there was mentioned. Yes, I looked 291 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: at the twenty twelve CRV and there it's got a 292 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: really long nose and it's got a sloping nose as well, 293 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: so where the bonnet line ends it slopes further. Forward 294 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: by the growth section, which would make it difficult to park. 295 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: So the first thing that I would say is get 296 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: a call with a stubbier nose and it's interested in 297 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: staying in the Honda brand. The HRV, which goes for 298 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: typically between two twenty and three fifty, has got a 299 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: very stubby nose. In fact, we've got a flat nose. 300 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: So I think if you want to stay with Honda, 301 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: and that's a good option. Another option is the Toyota. 302 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: I have four twenty sixteen to twenty twenty, lots of 303 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: high seating position, reliable and smooth, and these are that 304 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: we know we can trust when it comes to reliability. Listen. 305 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: Kash Guy is another option. Also again easy handling, good 306 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: safety tech, and a compact suv Reno's previous Gen Captive. 307 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: You want something more affordable and smaller, and then Suzuki 308 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: is Victara, another dependable one with a very small footprint 309 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: and easy to maneuver. Now tips for these types of situations. 310 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: When it comes to parking, find a call with parking aids. 311 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: If you've got something that got front and rear senses, 312 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: then you don't have to worry about these things. And 313 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: someone that lives in an apartment complex with what feels 314 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: like randomly placed poles, and you know, I'm driving different 315 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: casts all the time. Front parking sensors. My ego is 316 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: not big enough for me to not enjoy front parking sense. 317 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: I'm totally okay with a beep telling me that I 318 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: should go back and try again. So I think front 319 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: parking sensors might be it might be a good option, 320 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: and then look for something with big windows and high seating. 321 00:15:55,680 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: High seating definitely an option. I think the terriers need 322 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: to do a little bit more research, but I do 323 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: remember having this conversation before, and based on the fact 324 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: that it's a Yota, basically it's a good option. But 325 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: Toyota Air four under HRV and I think Suzuki Vitada 326 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: definitely in my top three when it comes to those 327 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: types of cars with that e depart and with good visability. 328 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 2: Okay, great, thanks for that feedback, and I hope that's 329 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: helpful to the person who sent the message and finding 330 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 2: a suitable replacement that can still fit in the ridge back. 331 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: Enjoy your travels. Okay, here we go, Deborah writing and 332 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 2: to say I'm looking to change cars and I want 333 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: a car that's not too big, but that can still 334 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: be used comfortably for holiday trips. I'm thinking of either 335 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: the Suzuki Jimney, the VWT Cross or the Toyota Cross Top. 336 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 2: Priorities are reliability, fuel economy, and safety. Which of those 337 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: would you recommend O Jimmy? 338 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: Definitely not. The Jimney is a fantastic car if you 339 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: can tell it to where you're going. Wow. Yes. But 340 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: because I've spent a lot of time with four by 341 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: four guys recent and with this conversation has come up 342 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: a lot, and you can if you want to update 343 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: the Jimney, the suspension on the Jymney, because there are 344 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: updates available to make it more comfortable on the long road. 345 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: It's one of those cars that's not that pleasant to 346 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: drive very far. So if your destination is three four 347 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: hundred kilometers away, then I would not necessarily recommend the Jymney. 348 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: But when you get there, be sure that you will 349 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: have tons and tons of fun and you can go 350 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: absolutely everywhere. So it's really a personal preference because I 351 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: know people that are willing to drive two thousand kilometers 352 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: without air conditioning, you know what I mean. It's just 353 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: one of those things that if you're willing to have 354 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: the discomfort of driving a car that's not perfect for 355 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: the long road, then and you love your Jimney, then 356 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: why not. But for me personally, I just feel like 357 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: that's something that needs to be taken into account, and 358 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: an easy way to die and figure this problem out 359 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: is to go for an extended test drive. I've always 360 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: said that extended test drives are very good options, and 361 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: if you've got a journey that you really have your 362 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: art set on, I would say go try it out 363 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: on a long drive. Let's fistical on a drive with 364 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: a dealer sitting next to you. See we can maybe 365 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 1: get the car for the weekend if possible, and then 366 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: see what that feels like if you're willing to live 367 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: with it. Because driving it around town it's so much 368 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: fun to drive. I really enjoy a journey for dashes 369 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: around the city, and then once you get to the dunes, 370 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: it's another ball of fun. But when it comes to 371 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: really far driving, I wouldn't necessarily recommend Jimmy the VW. 372 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: I think there was a Tea Cross that was mentioned, though, 373 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: yes it was Tea Cross. Beautiful car, very fun to drive, 374 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: lots of decently spacious, actually more spacial than the Tea 375 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: Rock that's slightly bigger. They've just added updated recently. There 376 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: is a later model available and then it's not four 377 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: by four offer road biased at all, but it is 378 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: decent on gravel. So I think the Tea Cross might 379 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: be a good option versus the Jimney, but it just 380 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: depends on what you're willing to live with. 381 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 2: Okay, thanks for that. Good luck, Debrah. I think we've 382 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: got time to squeeze. In a voice note from somebody 383 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 2: responding around the question of the Dihatsu Terios, let's take 384 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 2: a listen. 385 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 3: Hi, Papa, just to chip in regarding the under the 386 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 3: Terrrius avoided at as much as I love the car, 387 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 3: excellent car, but body panels and headlamps are just unavailable. 388 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 3: They are not available, so avoid Thank you Pa. 389 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: Thanks Paul. Okay, that does echo the concern arnest around 390 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: the parts availability. 391 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense, and thanks for that info, because 392 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: as you said, the mechanically the cause great to cause, 393 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: good to live with. But I think that's a problem 394 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: that even the Chinese manufacturers now will face, is that 395 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: if you have a fender bender, then you won't be 396 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: able to get those panels because they're not in the 397 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: county anymore and the Chinese calls being New Year, they 398 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: might not have those parts available, So thanks so much 399 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: for that feedback to help. 400 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: Okay, we have to wrap there, Ernest. As always, we 401 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: appreciate your time and the research you put in for 402 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 2: our listeners and please drive safely. 403 00:19:58,520 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: Sall. 404 00:19:58,680 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 2: We chat again next week Wednesday. 405 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: Awesome. Thank you very much. Appreciate. 406 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 2: Welcome Ernest page of change cars, dot co, dot s 407 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: A and all things motoring.