1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,760 Speaker 1: But that we're going to go straight to cars, and 2 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: I'm glad we've got a nice long slot today because 3 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: there's a lot for us to get through, a lot 4 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: of it linked to Volkswagen in one way or another. 5 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: Because actually Ernest Page is talking to us from the 6 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: VW launch of the Golf GTI this afternoon, and we 7 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: have a listener question about golf, so we have some 8 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: news on a National Consumer Commission recall around VW, so 9 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: there's quite a lot for us to talk about in 10 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: that particular category. However, that does not mean that the 11 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: segment is limited to VW and golf conversations today. As always, 12 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: you're welcome to ask any motoring question apart from asking 13 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: us to give you a valuation on a vehicle. Please, 14 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: that's the only thing we don't do live on air. 15 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: Any other question is welcome. What's ups to? Seven two 16 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: five six seven one five six seven Ernest, We enjoyed 17 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: having Michael last week, but it's. 18 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 2: Good to have you back where you belong. 19 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: Welcome as always, Thank you, grat to be Beck and 20 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: I must apologize I'm still in the Golf GDI S 21 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 3: THINGK passenger at the moment. Okay, with with race driver 22 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 3: janet Ko Kitzinger, and even though she's a racecot drammer, 23 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: she's a little too safe on the road. So we 24 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: are running the iron schedule and she's look a long way, 25 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 3: so we are on our way back to the venues. 26 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 3: I'm in the car right now, but I've got a 27 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: signal and I'd love to chat. 28 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: And you don't get a more up to date, a 29 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: live current review than one that's coming from the seat 30 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: of the vehicle. 31 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: End questions, so fantastic. 32 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: Before we talk about the new Golf GTI, I just 33 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: want to say a couple of people have been asking 34 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: about the Polo versus Suzuki Swift video that we were 35 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: talking about. I don't know if it was last week 36 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: or the week before that. All Things Motoring did that comparison, Ernest. 37 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 1: It's gratifying to see how many people actually went looking 38 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: for that video, but it's not up yet a few 39 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: of them are saying they haven't been able to find it. 40 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: Is that a then problem or a you problem? 41 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 4: No, no, no, that's us problems sorting that out. So 42 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 4: some technical issues outside, but we are busy finalizing the edit. 43 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 4: I looked at the soft last night. It looks fantastic 44 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 4: and we are very much looking forward. So as soon 45 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 4: as it goes live, I will send the two you 46 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 4: and to Maxine to put it out there to our listeners. 47 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: Okay, fantastic, thank you very much. So you're not going 48 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: crazy and you're not looking in the wrong place. There 49 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: was a technical issue that delayed the release of that video, 50 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: but it will be up soon. Okay, let's get straight 51 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: back to the vehicle you're sitting in right now. Ernest, 52 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: you have been finding out about the brand new Golf GTI. 53 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: What can you tell us? 54 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, indeed, and BW has now launched the new eight 55 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 4: point five GTI as they're calling it. And the previous 56 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 4: gen eighth one didn't really do that well in the market, 57 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 4: and we see a lot of them with ghostquad etc. 58 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 4: But we didn't really see them doing the big numbers 59 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 4: that generations before might have done. And BW looked at 60 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 4: some of those smaller issues and then making this now 61 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 4: the eight point five facelets. They've updated some of these issues. 62 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 4: And what they've done is, for example, they've changed the styling, 63 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 4: they've changed the wheels, they've changed the buttons, the fussy 64 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 4: haptic buttons on the steering wheel, which was a big 65 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 4: sticking point for many new fans was if you use 66 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 4: the seating wall like I do, and you use the 67 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 4: proper hand technique, you'd hit the heating system on the 68 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 4: steering wall. So they've changed those buttons now the actual 69 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 4: physical buttons, and it's yet another flashing step towards more 70 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 4: actual physical buttons in gods these days. In sorts take 71 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 4: the screen on the center, so it's a lot faster, 72 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 4: works more efficiently. They've given it more power as well, 73 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 4: so gree hundred and ninety five kilos now in tehredan 74 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 4: seventy utans and change the exterior lighting, the wheels of 75 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 4: different the interior slightly more upmarket. So what they've said 76 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 4: is they've made it more sporty and they've also tried 77 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 4: to keep the price below the one million round market 78 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 4: nine hundred and eight thousand. 79 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: So that's a lot of money for a golf. 80 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 4: That's a lot of money for golf. And that leads 81 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 4: me to my next question. I'm not sure if the 82 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 4: GTI holds the same cachet that it used to be 83 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 4: for as an affordable sort of performance hatchback, because I 84 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 4: think the performance hatchback segment has evolved and changed over 85 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 4: the years, where you know, it's also the GTI has 86 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 4: evolved in change over the airs. It's a lot more 87 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 4: of a sophisticated part. It's not a raw performance boy 88 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 4: racer car anymore. Although it is fun to drive, it's 89 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 4: got all those characteristics. I think it's a lot more sophisticated, 90 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 4: more in the vein of something like an Audi, you know, 91 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 4: when you're looking at the current types of GTI cars. 92 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 4: So I think it's a different market that it's appealing to. 93 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 4: Now it's a more sophisticated owner that it's appealing to 94 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 4: as well, but it still offers some of those boy 95 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 4: racer kicks, and it does make it difficult for the 96 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 4: Golf GTI to compete. When you look at the Polo GDI, 97 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 4: that's for doing exceptionally well, and I think that's more 98 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 4: where the GTI name plate fits into the older way 99 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 4: of doing things. But I think the new GDI, again, 100 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 4: it's more of an upmarket, sophisticated car, and it's sort 101 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 4: of evolved to that point. 102 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 2: Okay, so the eraser kicks, I mean, I love that. 103 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure there plenty of girl racer kecks, you would 104 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: also love to be behind the wheel and one. 105 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 4: Of those, I'm gonna go race for driving right here. 106 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: With me, exactly exactly. 107 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: So what else would fall into that category of of 108 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: what you're talking about, the old school performance hatchback category 109 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: that does give the sort of the the exciting racing 110 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: driving experience over the more sophistication of the new GTI. 111 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 4: Well, very interesting question. Janet and I were just chatting 112 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 4: about Car the Year at the moment and the Alpha 113 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 4: Mayo which I've driven recently, the elect Electric. 114 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: Oh we just lost the Sorry, Ernest, we just lost 115 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: your signal there for a second. You said you were 116 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: talking about the alternatives and the old Alpha. 117 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 4: The Alpha Mayo is alternative at the moment which has 118 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 4: been compared via Car of the Year, and that's the 119 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 4: electric version performance care. It's got a what's called the 120 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 4: limited slip of viential upfront, and it's very much a 121 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 4: performance core. I think then you get the gr yardist 122 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 4: on civic type. Are the Handai City in all of 123 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 4: these cause of proper performance hatchbacks and goal of GDI 124 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 4: doesn't fit into that category anymore. So. I don't think 125 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 4: the person that buys a GDI is looking at the 126 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 4: YADASGR for example. I think the person that buys a 127 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 4: GDI is looking for an alternative to something like an 128 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 4: Audi as an example, or a BMW. 129 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: Okay, thank you so much for the comparison. Okay, so 130 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: that's the news on the new vehicle. We must just 131 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: touch on some news on older VW's and then we've 132 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: got a listener question around VW's as well. But ernest 133 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: the older ones I'm talking about not terribly old. We're 134 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: talking here about VW Polo Vivos that we're on sale 135 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: from February last year to February this year. We heard 136 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: a couple of days ago from the National Consumer Commission 137 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: that they have recalled a substantial batch of these vehicles, 138 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: and it does really give you an indication of just 139 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: how popular the Polo Vivo is. That the Commission is 140 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: recalling more than twenty five thousand cars that have been 141 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: in impacted by an issue with the handbrake. 142 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: What can you tell us? 143 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 4: So I've spoken to VW representative this morning and we've 144 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 4: got it straight from them that, as we know, and 145 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 4: we've spoken about it before, recalls are pretty standard in 146 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 4: the industry. It does happen, and when where it's an 147 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 4: external supplier supplying a part, that part is then found 148 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 4: to be potentially defective in a certain batch of twenty 149 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 4: five thousand costs or thereabouts that have been fenced, they're 150 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 4: saying that there's a small percentage of those cars that 151 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 4: are willing to give an exact number percentage, but it's 152 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 4: a relatively small percentage of those cars that ses. But 153 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 4: the proper procedure is to then have those cause pulled in, 154 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 4: checked and then diagnosed properly by the technician. It's a 155 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 4: fifteen minute person. So if you have bought cars at 156 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 4: Fitts into that window, you're looking at a fifteen minute 157 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 4: inspection perfect let's ay, fifteen to fifty minute inspection process 158 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 4: at your VW dealership, which won't cost you anything. Your 159 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 4: call will then be checked to make sure if it's 160 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 4: got the issue or not, and then you'll have to 161 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 4: book the car into have the parts in place. Those 162 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 4: parts are arriving mid months, so your care will more 163 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 4: than likely be able to be sorted out in the 164 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 4: coming weeks, depending on availability. But it's not a break issue. 165 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 4: It's not a component to do with any of the 166 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 4: breaking system it's the hand brake system, which obviously does 167 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 4: form as an emergency brake, so that's important, and it 168 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 4: also forms as a park brake. So what VW official 169 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 4: recommendation is for now is to park your car in 170 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 4: first year until you get the car inspected. If it's 171 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 4: a manual, and if it's automatic, when you do put 172 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 4: it into park, then you should be fine, but definitely 173 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 4: something that as a matter of urgency to get checked out. 174 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 4: Take it to a VW dealer ship. But like we 175 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 4: mentioned before, many manufacturers have recalled this is a precautionary 176 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 4: measure for a sample size of that twenty five thousand, okay. 177 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: And just for those who are interested in the detail, 178 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: it's literally the height at which the rivets were put 179 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: in on the handpreck. And the batch in question is 180 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: the Polo Vivos sold between February twenty twenty five and 181 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: February twenty twenty six. So if you are in one 182 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: of those vehicles you've heard Ernest there, just to emphasize 183 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: what he said in the interim, until you can get 184 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: to your VW dealership to have it checked, please park 185 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: in first gear. If you're in a manual, make sure 186 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: you're in park properly if you're in an automatic. And 187 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: also the advice is don't park on an incline just 188 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: in case you are one of the affected vehicles, because 189 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: what the risk is if you do have the incorrect 190 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: rivet height, there is a small rist of the gears 191 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: disengaging and then obviously if you are parked on an incline, yeah, 192 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: that could end badly. So February twenty five to February 193 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: twenty six, VW Polo Vivos call your dealership if you 194 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: are in any quandary as to whether you are part 195 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: of the recall or not. In check and then organized 196 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: to take it in and get it checked. And thanks 197 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: for following up with VW itself, Ernest to give us 198 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: the feedback there right. The third VW thing to talk 199 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: about today is a question that came in during the 200 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: week from one of our listeners who wrote to say 201 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: the following. VWS just launched the electric Polo in Germany 202 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: and they have stated it will only be produced as 203 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: an electric car. There is some mention in South Africa 204 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: that they'll be giving the current Polo a second, heavily 205 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: refreshed facelift for our market. Can you please reach out 206 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: to your contacts and advise if this is true and 207 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: if so, when this will be coming out. The reason 208 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: for the question, I am looking at buying a new car, 209 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: and I would wait to buy a refreshed Polo if 210 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: a new one is coming out, rather than looking at 211 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: other more updated options. 212 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, now I fully agree to the I would definitely 213 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 4: wait for that Polo facelift. I've not got a confirmation 214 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 4: on a date for that Polo facelift yet. I'm waiting 215 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 4: for that as we speak. And then when it comes 216 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 4: to the electric Polar, we are not getting the electric 217 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 4: Polar yet. When the new Polo comes to cat and 218 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 4: it is projected for twenty twenty six, I'm just waiting 219 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 4: for confirmation on that. We will be getting potentially a 220 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 4: hybrid Polo, and we have got to go ahead to 221 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 4: run the petrol Polo called twenty citty at the minute 222 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 4: at the day minimum twenty thirty, so we are not 223 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 4: prioritized to get the electric Polo. You'll get it, I said. 224 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 4: The hybrid Polo is being projected and there is a 225 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 4: facelift coming. I've literally messaged to Borjor now we were 226 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 4: hoping to have a conversation at lunch today. Will We're 227 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 4: not there in time, so I'm waiting for response by 228 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 4: getting while I'm on it, and I'll let you know. 229 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 4: If not, then I'll send it through the magazine immediately. 230 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 4: But we're waiting for confirmation on that Polo facelift update. 231 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 4: The latest news that I've got is that the Polo 232 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 4: GTI edition twenty is feeding update, but not necessarily but 233 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 4: potentially the Polo in twenty twenty six. But let me 234 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 4: get a confirmation on that. I'm waiting for that message 235 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 4: to come in. 236 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: Okay, great, So if it does come through during the 237 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: next on a quarter, we'll feed that back to you 238 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: on air. Otherwise we'll circle back there as soon as 239 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: the information is available. 240 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: Thanks for that, all right. 241 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: With that, we are going to hand over to what'sapps 242 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: and listener questions coming in a reminder, you can send 243 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: a what up to seven two five six seven one 244 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: five six seven. You can also send me an email 245 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: to Pippa h at Cape talk dot co dot za. 246 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: Now Edi writing in saying, and I think he's often 247 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: heard you reference the fact that there are sort of 248 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: there's an alliance of sorts between Toyota and Suzuki where 249 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: you have certain models that are actually twins of one another. 250 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: And Edie's question is, can you please ask Ernest about 251 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: that partnership. In the case of the partnerships between Toyota 252 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: and Suzuki, which engines do the Toyotas have. Is it 253 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: a Toyota engine or a Suzuki engine. 254 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 4: Me and my colleague are chuckling together, yeh, because it's 255 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 4: definitely a Suzuki engine. Even if you see Atiota bedge 256 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 4: and they take the cover off, you will use zuk engine. 257 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 4: But this is not it's not abnormal. This is something 258 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 4: that's been going on for decades and decades between manufacturers. 259 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 4: And then the manufacturers often get on alligation units, they 260 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 4: get test units, and they then test those units as 261 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 4: if were their own cause to make sure that they 262 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 4: warranties and their standards apply to those cards. And with 263 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 4: Suzuki's sort of surge into the market, and they uptake 264 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 4: over the last couple of years because are reliable because 265 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 4: of well built the relationship with the Yota as I'm 266 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 4: sure strengthened their ability to build reliable cause, so I 267 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 4: wouldn't necessarily yes, you are buying a Suzuki with a 268 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 4: Yota Badjohn, but you are getting the backing of the 269 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 4: Yota on that product, which has to be worth something, 270 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 4: especially in South Africa. 271 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: Why did you just remind us of some of the 272 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: examples of that sort of that that that crossover alliance relationship. 273 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: Ernest. 274 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, So you've got the very the tiny, tiny little Toyota, 275 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 4: which is one of them, that's the the one just 276 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 4: below the others. And then you get the Toyota, the 277 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 4: Suzuki Francs, which is basically the same as the Toyota models. 278 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 4: It's not, it's definitely not. The Jymney for the Jymney 279 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: is a Suzuki Pronut specifically, and then at Tiger Starlett 280 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 4: is the other one. Theota Starlet is basically based on 281 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 4: the one of the Tazuki models. And then also the 282 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 4: at Tiger which is a Tazuki. There's a seven seater 283 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 4: Ruby on Toyota which is basically the same pars. So 284 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 4: they are they are basically badge engineered. But I think 285 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 4: in the modern world there's a lot a lot of 286 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 4: that going on. This has been going on since the 287 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 4: Maasda in the four Days with Sam Kore. When you 288 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 4: buy a mass there's three, this three and your friend 289 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 4: would tell you. Now it's basically a Ford laser. So 290 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: it's been going on for many, many decades, and and 291 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 4: and something I think we can expect in the foreseeable 292 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 4: future because to develop a new car is very very 293 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 4: expensive and that cost has to be passed down to someone. 294 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 4: So I think actually the consumer wins in a situation 295 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 4: like there is with Toyota. 296 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: Okay, thanks so much, Eddie, glad you asked the question. 297 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: Appreciate your WhatsApp. Okay, somebody asking why we are not 298 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: as standard practice asking Ernest for the end cap rating 299 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: the essay n CAP rating for every. 300 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: Vehicle he talks about. 301 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: Ernest, the simple answer is we don't have South African 302 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: encap ratings for many of the vehicles we're talking about. 303 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: It's still only a select few that gets sent over 304 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: for testing in Germany every year. 305 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 4: Not so Indeed, it's a very small sample size at 306 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 4: the moment. And I just had a chat with bom 307 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 4: bombitram Aquador from the AA and his mission to bring 308 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 4: safer cause into Africa. It's something where we will see 309 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 4: a lot more new cards getting tested and they've got 310 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 4: a minimum requirement now that is going forward. But as 311 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 4: you've mentioned in our previous show, a simple google for 312 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 4: the global end cap oftentimes you can find the Australian 313 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 4: end cap as well, and then just be aware that 314 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 4: some tacos that gets sold here exactly the same cars 315 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 4: that are tested. But as mentioned by the AA, they 316 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 4: are looking to test entry level costs to make sure 317 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 4: that even if you buy anty level cards, got at 318 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 4: least three stars and that then you standard they're y 319 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 4: looking at going forward. 320 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: Yeah okay, So again, just to emphasize this, the model 321 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: that you might find on a global rating or an 322 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: Australian rating is not necessarily the same car that is 323 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: on sale in South Africa, and our ability to test 324 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: the South African version is limited by funding the AA 325 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: doing what it can to send us many vehicles over 326 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: for testing every year as part of this push for 327 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: safety in Africa. But it is as simple as that 328 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: we have not yet done our own testing on the 329 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: local models because it's it's a funding issue, simple as that. Okay, thanks, 330 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm glad. I think we must just keep on and 331 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: on talking about this and reminding listeners to be wary 332 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: of the difference between an international rating that it's not 333 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: necessarily applicable to the car that they're buying here in 334 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: South Africa. Right next, let's go to a voice note 335 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: that has come in from Tanya, a reminder that you 336 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: can send voice notes and text messages to O seven 337 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: to five six seven one five six seven. 338 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 5: Are they are going to have a look at the 339 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 5: Cherry Row four yesterday? And was told that the car's 340 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 5: going to be replaced with the Cherry Pro Cross. Do 341 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 5: you know anything about it? Do you know anything about 342 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 5: the car? Is it worth it? Or should I chang the. 343 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: Pro for. 344 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: Ernest heard any think about a Cherry Pro Cross. 345 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 4: So I'm not aware of that. My colleagues that I'm 346 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 4: with at the moment also not aware of that. There's 347 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 4: so many new cars coming along. I quickly Google might 348 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 4: be able to get that question answered. Having said that 349 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 4: with the Chinese, cause they are always always the later model. 350 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 4: Now we spoke about this about your moota that I'm 351 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 4: not the biggest fan of, and next week I'll be 352 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 4: chatting about the motor that I had that has fixed 353 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 4: a lot of the issues that I had with the car. 354 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 4: So there's always a new facelift model, where European manufacturers 355 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 4: often take six months a year, two years, five years 356 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 4: to update the car. When it comes to the Chinese manufacturers, 357 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 4: they update the cost quite quickly, and Cherry is definitely 358 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 4: one of them, so people look out for that. We 359 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 4: did do a test with a brand new Cherry Tigo 360 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 4: four Pro. Again, the main concern with the call is 361 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 4: fuel consumption, future value and will Cherry be around for 362 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 4: a long time. And I think that question being answered 363 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 4: by the fact that they've got a factory now available 364 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 4: that opening up into Africa soon. Their resell value has 365 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 4: over the last couple of years, I would imagine gotten 366 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,479 Speaker 4: better compared to some of the smaller Chinese brands and 367 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 4: the Cherry Tigo four pros. We did the brake test 368 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 4: for the call, we did the acceleration test for the call, 369 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 4: We did the design, We checked the design, we checked 370 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 4: the interior quality. I think the Tiger four Pro is 371 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 4: still especially the new one, is a very very solid option, 372 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 4: good value for money. Just be aware that you will 373 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 4: be paying a little bit exte at the tube pup. 374 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: Okay, thank you for that, And Sharon asking, isn't that 375 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: the vehicle that had the bad end cap rating? Sharon, 376 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: that was the Tig seven that had the two star 377 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: are I think it was if I remember correctly in 378 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: the recent end Cap. 379 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 4: Correct And just to touch on that that too star 380 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 4: rating is very much related to the either lack of 381 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 4: or if it does have curtain air bags. That is 382 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 4: one of the standards that Endcap has applied to that 383 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 4: two star rating. So if you don't have curtain air 384 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 4: bags in your car, you will more than likely get 385 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 4: it to star rating. And the Cherry seven that they 386 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 4: that they tested will be the entry level model, which 387 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 4: won't have the curtains they are just like with the 388 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 4: Tiota Corolla Cross, the top spig model does have the curtains, 389 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 4: and that one will have a better encaburating. So make 390 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 4: sure to look at how many air bags your car 391 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,239 Speaker 4: gets if you want to confirm that incab rate. 392 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: Okay, important, thank you so much. Right, another voice not 393 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: in from Cornell, Let's have a listen. My brother drives 394 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: an Amarok folks for Camarok, and I relatively recently purchased 395 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: a for the WildTrack. 396 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 4: So my joke to him is he's driving a Wanna 397 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 4: Before so Ford and v doubly did have a joint 398 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 4: venture with the development of the Ameer, and yes, a 399 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 4: lot of us Amrak fans like I was, were a 400 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 4: little disappointed, but what they did was they got the 401 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 4: w engineers involved in when it comes to the ride 402 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 4: and handling, the entertainment, The interior, the parts of the 403 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 4: body parts are totally different. But yeah, under the skin 404 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 4: it is very much a Ford Ranger, but with a 405 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 4: little bit more of a femium to it. So technically 406 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 4: that is the VIP upgrade version to the Ford Changer. 407 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 4: If the friend wants to take a jab back, okay. 408 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 2: Thank you. 409 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,719 Speaker 1: Right, let's circle back to a question that came in 410 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: last week and Michael wasn't in a position to comment 411 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: from from too much knowledge of this, so we said 412 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: we would refer it to this week instead. LK asking 413 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: whether you have heard anything about the Cituent C three 414 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: air Cross seven seater and whether it's any good. 415 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 4: So, yeah, I've spoken my colleague over that one. It 416 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 4: is a smart buy and there's a couple of articles 417 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 4: and a lot of our colleagues have done some work 418 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 4: and it. I haven't driven it myself, but Car Magazine 419 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 4: has done some work on some checks on it, Cosatsia 420 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 4: has done Causasa Zeta has done some checks on it 421 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 4: and Citron has gone a little bit more budget of 422 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 4: late with their cause that they've named their cause similarly 423 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 4: to their old name Convention, but the Cause or a 424 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 4: slightly more budget option. You've got cause like the Zu 425 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 4: Suzuki Granditaret. You have to Urban Cruiser, k yoursnad Renovkaiger, 426 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 4: Cherry Fourtigo, Cherry Tiger four. All of these casts compete. 427 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 4: But this is a five plus two layouts, so you 428 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 4: get five seats, plus you get two for the kids 429 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 4: if you need to get them in there. The pricing 430 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 4: is very good three hundred and forty four nine hundred 431 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 4: and it's got a one point two liters three cylinder engine. 432 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 4: Fuel consumption is six point three. Say you buy a 433 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 4: brand new you do have Stilantis that wants to make 434 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 4: sure that Citron is successful in the country, supporting the core. 435 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 4: It's also the kind of car that not many people 436 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 4: will have, so you will be standing out from the 437 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 4: crowd if it's something that you are interested in. And 438 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 4: I do like Citron and the ethos of having a 439 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 4: comfortable interior over much else. So you're going to get 440 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 4: comfortable seats, You're going to get a very ergonomic interior 441 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 4: and you're going to get a very few fuel economical 442 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 4: engine that is also wrapped in a stylish, stylish package. 443 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 4: What are the cons? You do get limited brand presents 444 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 4: because you're buying a car that not many other people have. 445 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 4: You will have a third row that's canned, but I 446 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 4: think most of the compact seven seaters don't have a 447 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 4: full size third row. It's more for the kids. It's 448 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 4: not as powerful as a bigg A seven seater. So 449 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 4: if you do have it fully loaded, you're going to 450 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 4: notice that you've got a small engine and the interior 451 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 4: would be a little bit more budget than some of 452 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 4: its competitors, with slightly lesser off the self competed to 453 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 4: something like a Toyoto or Suzuki. But this is the 454 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 4: price that you pay if you want something that stands 455 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 4: out from the cloud, that's not your normal. And I 456 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 4: do the word I'm drum, but I'm drum for that everybody. 457 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: Else by Okay, thanks for doing that homework, Elks, thank 458 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: you for your patients in waiting for it, appreciate your 459 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: passions in waiting for the in depth answer this week, 460 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: and thanks to Ernest for supplying it before we must 461 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: wrap up. Sarah writing, in concerned listening to the conversation 462 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: about the VW Polo Vivo recall. She wants to know 463 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: do car rental companies have to adhere to recalls when 464 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: they applicable. I'd expect and hope that that would be 465 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: standard practice. But the reason she's asking is that she's 466 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: got family who arrived on Sunday and on Monday, are 467 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: not both in Polo Vivo's rented from different companies. Obviously, 468 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: we don't know what year those Vivos are, and it's 469 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: a very specific set of Vivo's Feb twenty five to 470 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: Feb twenty six that are impacted by this recall. But 471 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: ernest I would imagine, I mean, surely the car rental 472 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: companies would have to react just as any. 473 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 4: Other imagine for compliance purposes that have to. But we 474 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 4: also have to take personal responsibility on these sorts of things. 475 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 4: So I think a simple question of what your model 476 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 4: is exactly and hasn't gone for the recall would be 477 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 4: the appropriate question to ask if you are with the 478 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 4: criental company. But that's that's something I actually talk about 479 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 4: that at lunch. Unfortunately we did get a bit late 480 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 4: to lunch. I didn't have all of the conversations that 481 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 4: want there with b W. But I did get an 482 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 4: answer from from BW on what's it now. No plans 483 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 4: for the Polo facelift in twenty twenty six, unfortunately. 484 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: Oh so it's been delayed. If we are getting it, 485 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: it's not going to be this year. 486 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not going to be this year. Yeah, it 487 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 4: will be in addition twenty GTI, but not the Polo 488 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 4: facelift for this year. 489 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: Okay, just in the nick of time, because that's where 490 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: we have to wrap it up. 491 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 2: Ernest, thank you so much. 492 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: Enjoy the rest of your chauffeur driven experience in the 493 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: golf and we'll check. 494 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 2: Again next week. 495 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 4: Jeanette, keep me safe from I'm very thanks for the 496 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 4: chat chatter. 497 00:24:58,480 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 2: Keep well, Ernest. 498 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: Page of Check Range, Cars, dot Co, dot c A 499 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: and all things Motoring.