1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,359 Speaker 1: Weekend Breakfast with Sarah Jane Marguile. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: King Saturday and Sunday seven am. 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 3: So, I really it was a thrill discover the thrill 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 3: of the EFC that sounds for Extreme Fighting Championship for 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 3: those who don't know. I love how i've I'm positioning 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 3: myself as the expert now in case you didn't know 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 3: what that is, it's Extreme Fighting Championship, says me, who's 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 3: been to one fight night. So Cairo Harrith, who was 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 3: the founder, was in studio with us about gosh three 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 3: four weeks ago. He's such a sweetheart. He's a good 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: good guy, isn't he. He's a really good guy. But 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 3: his patients when I kind of went so what's MMA, 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 3: and I could just see that, he was like, oh dear, 14 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 3: this is this really at this point were still asking 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 3: these questions, and he said, why don't you come along? 16 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 3: Come along tomorrow night? And I was like, okay. So 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: I took a couple of people who are very very 18 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 3: into like MMA and UFC and all that kind of stuff, 19 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 3: and my mind was blown. I now understand why whenever 20 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 3: we've tried to include this in our top pic section, 21 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: we haven't been able to because it's always been sold 22 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: out and joining me in studio this morning one of 23 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: the fighting machines who drive the crowds crazy and make 24 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 3: our voices horse and who I saw in the uh 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: what are we calling it? The octagon Hexagon Hexagon Hexagon 26 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: at Grand West as part of the EFC at Knox 27 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 3: Legacy series. So I'm absolutely thrilled to welcome into studio 28 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: Terrence Black Panther Ballelo. You were fighting. Remind me of 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 3: his name, Joy from Brazil. 30 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 2: Tough guy, tough guy. 31 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: Congratulations on the wind first, and thank you so much 32 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: for coming in. Such a thrill, like really, such such 33 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: a thrill to have you have you in studio with this. 34 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: Let's start then, let's start with let's start with the 35 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: fight from from I want to hear from you. So 36 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: you were theirs. It was first first fight of the night. 37 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was the first fighter the mean car. 38 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: Now listen, I mean fight of them. It was the 39 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 3: fight of the night. 40 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: Really, I had to turn up, I'm. 41 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 3: Telling you so, coming from where i'd come from, which 42 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 3: I've never seen a fight. I don't know who I 43 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: know Drickas is because he's Rickers, but beyond that, I 44 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 3: know nothing either side of me, two people who are 45 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 3: very invested, they know their stuff. We were all just 46 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 3: like absolutely you you brought it. You came in the 47 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: energy like for me as a new bee to the space, 48 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 3: it was. It had everything that one would want from 49 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 3: their first watching their first fight. So kudos to you. 50 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: Tell me from your perspective, how how how much do 51 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 3: you know about your opponent going into a into a 52 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 3: fight like that? 53 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: So what Cleverson was, obviously, I want to say easy 54 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: because before then the same card, like let's say May 55 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: last year before the same card. Okay, so it was 56 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: a card where'll we be able to fight against Brazilians. 57 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: So I fought the Brazilian in one of us, I 58 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: overcon guys Ford Cleverson. So I saw him, so I 59 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: watched the fight in Cleverson obviously got knocked out in 60 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: net fight. I didn't even look at that knockout. I 61 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 1: was just like, this guy is coming back to South 62 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: Africa with redemption in his mind, revenge because. 63 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: Losing and not getting. 64 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: The chance to show yourself to the to the the 65 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: new crowd is different because you're going to come in 66 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: with the mindset of if you want to kill this guy, 67 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: and obviously My mindset was I gotta be sharp, I 68 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: got to be locked in because I'm finding a guy 69 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: that's dangerous, right and I don't want to lose in 70 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: front of my people, especially in Cape Town, coming BACKFC, 71 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: coming back after a few years Grand West tricks involved knocks, 72 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: and I had to go out and just be me 73 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: in showcase what I'm capable of. 74 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: Are you going in with a with a game plan 75 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 3: or are you are you kind of going to say 76 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: rolling with the punches, but you know, you know what 77 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 3: I mean? 78 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: Are you. 79 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 3: Having having having seen his previous fight, knowing that you're 80 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: going to come up against him, and you're going, Okay, 81 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 3: I can identify this guy's strengths. I can identify his weaknesses. 82 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 3: I mean from you like we were watching the fight 83 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: again both fights. Is just coming to studio, Hello, sir, 84 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 3: good morning, this morning. Great really trill to have you in. 85 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: Are you are you going in knowing okay this is 86 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 3: these are his strengths, these are his weaknesses? Or are 87 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: you going in knowing these are my strengths and these 88 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 3: are my weaknesses and playing to you rather than him. 89 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you could both actually because fighting a guy 90 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: like Cliverson obviously shorter stocky, so I had to like adjust. 91 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: So my mindset was if the game plannedn't work, I 92 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: have to adapt and readapt in certain situations. Especially when 93 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: he came in with the wrestling type of mindset, I 94 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: was like, so we don't want to strike tonight, bro, 95 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: what's happening? And I just had to adapt because I 96 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: put myself in the positions for three months. I did 97 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: four weeks in Joe Book, guys just killing me. It 98 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: was the first time going outside of Cape Town and 99 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: go training with different guys who gave me different looks. 100 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: So I said to myself, if I want to level 101 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: up in this game at this age, I need to 102 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: put myself in difficult positions every single day. And when 103 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: I came back after that four weeks with seven weeks 104 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: year and I did a few weeks in swelling them 105 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: as well. But the last few weeks here and Cape 106 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: Town was just me telling coaches, listen, seven weeks is 107 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: what's going to do? Put me in the most difficult 108 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: positions every single time, through the sad tanks to the 109 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: sparring sessions. I want to be my back. I want 110 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: to be against the fence, and I just played out 111 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: when it got to be against the fence in the 112 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: fighter was like, nah, they javel. 113 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. And again coming from somebody who 114 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: this is not my area of expertise, are small at all. 115 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 3: So from what it for me, the fact that you 116 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 3: were every time we took you down, the fact that 117 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: you were able to get out of it was remarkable 118 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: because I mean is I mean you're all pretty buff, big, 119 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: I mean from where I'm sitting at White you know, 120 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 3: sixty three kilos, But I mean the fact that you 121 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 3: were able to do that always kind of having an 122 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: answer to whatever he's bringing you. It was gripping, gripping, 123 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: grappling viewing incredible. Mister here he is. Hello, welcome jameson studio. 124 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 3: It's really good to have you with us. So you 125 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: missed the introduction that I was tearing telling Terrence, which 126 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 3: is that I had never been to a fuck to 127 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: see a fight before. So at Graham West was the 128 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 3: first time that I had seen a fight. Seriously, he's 129 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: looking at me. He's really cool. But I'm telling you, 130 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 3: I came to the right one and I didn't know 131 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: what to expect. The two people that I came with 132 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: big into Mma, they know their stuff. I mean it 133 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 3: was literally like almost kind of taking notes. This was 134 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 3: the best for me, that my best introduction. And Cairo 135 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 3: had been sitting where you're sitting about two weeks prior 136 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 3: and said you must come along because I said I've 137 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 3: never been. He said, no, you must come. This is 138 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: going to be incredible for you. And you've brought in 139 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 3: the Look at that, that's a pretty impressive piece of 140 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 3: what are we calling that? I was going to say silverware, 141 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: but that's the wrong sport. That is impressive. 142 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 4: That's that's a world championship. 143 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: That's a world championship belt there. I mean, you're no 144 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 3: stranger to that, right, This is this is who have 145 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: we got this? This is your lovely wife. Yes, hello darling, 146 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: it's talk to me about your about your fight. So 147 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 3: you were up against the Australian. Trent remind me of okay, 148 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: hey looks pretty mean. 149 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 4: He was. He was, and he came in, he came 150 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 4: in very, he came in height, He came to fight 151 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 4: me for the world championship. 152 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 3: You could tell that, like immediately he was not about 153 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 3: Every single exchange felt like we were trying to take 154 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 3: one another out. 155 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 4: Moment to moment, it was back and forth, back and forth. 156 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 4: He came, he came prepared me. He came prepared, and 157 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 4: he brought some things that I didn't expect go on, 158 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 4: Like like boxing style was a lot more flat footed 159 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 4: than I had expected, which was a big change from 160 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 4: what he'd done in his previous fights. I was expecting 161 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of movement. I was expecting 162 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 4: to be on my bicycle and we were going to 163 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 4: move and he was going to try and track me down. 164 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 4: I was going to try and track him down. But 165 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 4: he came and he just stood it right in front 166 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 4: of me, and we got into some wild exchanges. And 167 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 4: he likes to call his his style the wild style, 168 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 4: but I think I was even a little bit more 169 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 4: wild than he was. So it was, it was. There 170 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 4: was really epic moments, and the fight was one of 171 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 4: my toughest to date. Was it one hundred percent? 172 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 3: There was again from an inexperienced eye, and I hope 173 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 3: you don't mind me saying this. There were moments where 174 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know that that belt is staying 175 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 3: in Cape Town. 176 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 177 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: For me, I was watching it thinking, hold on a second, 178 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 3: So I don't know. 179 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 4: I've been dominant for so long, and I've been I've 180 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: been making it look easy on the African African content. 181 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 4: So now getting guys coming in from overseas and they 182 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,599 Speaker 4: bring in he had twice the amount of professional experience 183 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 4: then I had. He had forty five pro fights. I 184 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 4: had twenty in total. So there's a big difference between 185 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 4: he fort and Japan. He fought in Asia, he was 186 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 4: he was supposed to win this fight. He was supposed 187 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 4: to come here and take my belt. This is one 188 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 4: of the hardest guys that could possibly possibly bring for me. 189 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 4: Used He's training out of Volkanovski's camp, He's training with 190 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 4: some of the best guys in the world, and he 191 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 4: came to my shores and he tried to take it 192 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 4: from me. But the one thing that happened was when 193 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 4: there was the exchanges, I could feel he didn't he 194 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 4: didn't have the art that I had. I showed him 195 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 4: that night what means they have the art. 196 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 2: Of a lion. 197 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 3: We watched we were watching again, but as I said Terrence, 198 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 3: that the fights last night just some highlights just so 199 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: that I could kind of remind myself. And there's a 200 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: point at which things suddenly switch right and suddenly you're 201 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 3: on it. You're on it, and you're on him. And 202 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 3: I was watching thinking, I mean, it happened in seconds, 203 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 3: a split second where you just take it and then 204 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 3: and then you and then you took the match. What 205 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 3: are your thoughts on his kind of post match attitude 206 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 3: because he had some issues around. 207 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 4: I think so. So what I did was I posted 208 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 4: a video on social media very clearly explaining what the 209 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 4: back of the head means. 210 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 3: Okay, go explain to me. 211 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 4: So if you're making contact with the ear, Yeah, that's 212 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 4: not back of the back of the aid is literally 213 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 4: three fingers at the muddle point of the back of it. 214 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 3: Plain to people again again, I love how I've you know, 215 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 3: I've been I've been coached for five minutes five minutes, 216 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 3: and now I'm the expert. But explain to like, what's 217 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 3: the issue with the back of the head, because I 218 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,599 Speaker 3: mean it looks pretty brutal. People like, can't they just 219 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: hit anywhere? No, what the back of the head is? 220 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 3: What's the issue that is. 221 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 4: Basically linked to the softest part of the skull. And 222 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 4: but a lot of these shots are like like we're 223 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 4: not playing with one another. Thing Like when I was 224 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 4: eating him, I was very consciously trying to turn his 225 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 4: heat into mosh because it was it was about who 226 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 4: is going to come out of the on top this when? 227 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 4: The when is? When is these exchanges and we really 228 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 4: are hurting one another like that upper cutty landed literally 229 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 4: split my mouth open, like like there was there was 230 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 4: a cut so deep that I could the next day 231 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 4: I could see the fat in my mouth. So we 232 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 4: we were really fighting and when those exchanges happened, we 233 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 4: letting one another know that, hey, we are really challenging 234 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 4: each other to see it what is the best that 235 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 4: can come out of us when we go into like 236 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 4: the edge of what is what is possible? The edge 237 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 4: of what is what can happen in Mortal Kombat between 238 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: two people? 239 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: It's terrence? What to what degree? And watching you fight 240 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: that the physicality is remarkable. You guys are fit and 241 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 3: strong to on on another level. And I saw, you 242 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: know I or Sieve come through as well, and he 243 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 3: was you know, he's a fit guy. You guys are fit. 244 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 3: What to what degree is your mental state gonna win 245 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: or lose you a match a fight? 246 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: The shoutout to Uncle Sylph as well, it's one hundred 247 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: percent mental people say it's fifty to fifty or ninety ten, 248 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: nine hundred percent. Because if your mental is not it's 249 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: not there, then what's the use of being in a 250 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: cage Because that person opposite is trying to kill you, 251 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: is really trying to hurt you. And it's the business 252 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: at the end of the day. It's sign harsh, but 253 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: it's it's a crueling game. It's ae giving sport. But 254 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: we have to go out there and hurt each other. 255 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 3: So what what gets you into that into that mental state? 256 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 4: Then? 257 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 3: Because you can say I've done, I've trained, I've you know, 258 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 3: I've done all of the stuff. Physically, no one can 259 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: touch me. I'm strong, I'm this. But if your if 260 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 3: your mental is off, so how do you take care 261 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 3: of that part? 262 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: Then it's more for me, it's more mindfulness, practicing mindfulness, meditating, 263 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: calming myself. I did not expect calming myself before the fight. 264 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: I do yoga on my spare time. A lot of 265 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: people don't know that, but so that stuff keeps me 266 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: balanced and and it's also spiritual for me as well. 267 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: Fighting it's not just like physical or mental, it's also 268 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: spiritual for me as well. Kind of take me like 269 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: a quick, a quick scenario. 270 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: I was cutting weight and so on. 271 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: Now then you go into the pool just to cool down, 272 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: and the pool let the cover over. I went down 273 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: and when I was down there, I had no panic. 274 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: I was calm, the calmer's form I could be. 275 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 2: I just saw dark. 276 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: My eyes was closed. But I was just swimming in 277 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: the pool and I just felt the peace, and I 278 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: was like, nah, I'm taking this fight. There's no way 279 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: I'm losing. So it's it's all mindset. It's it's it's spiritual, 280 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: it's it's deeper in it, just in physical the old time. 281 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, what was it that I'm always interested to know 282 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 3: people's backgrounds and how they get into do whatever it is, 283 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 3: and how they hone their craft in whatever space, because 284 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 3: there's a moment, there's a moment at which you know, 285 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: I sat and watched somebody doing this or writing read 286 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 3: a book. I want to do that for you. What 287 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 3: were your moments for what What was the moment that 288 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 3: you that you thought, that's what I want to do. 289 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: I want to kick the living daylights out of another 290 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 3: man in the hexagon. 291 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 4: I got into a backyard braw. 292 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 3: I love it. Where did you grow up? I. 293 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 4: So I grew up mostly in Mitchell's Plain, but I 294 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 4: moved around quite a bit, but my own base was 295 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 4: was in Mitchell's Plain, and that's where, you know, played outside, 296 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 4: where I learned about life, where a lot of my 297 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 4: my initial friendships was made. My understanding of life, i'd 298 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 4: say comes from a big portion of that comes from 299 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 4: iticular space. But I also went to nine different schools 300 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 4: I loved in twenty two hours olds. So I was 301 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 4: always the I was always the new boy, sure, and 302 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 4: because of that, I found myself in positions where I 303 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 4: really needed to authentically know myself. I couldn't be part 304 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 4: of a crowd because I had to stand alone. And 305 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 4: one of the things that that allowed me to have 306 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 4: is aal a real knowing that I have my own 307 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 4: back when it comes to the toughest times. So regardless 308 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 4: of anything, I know that whatever I go through, I'm 309 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 4: going through with me. And we've been through so much 310 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 4: that a fight is scary, but it's not really that scary. 311 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 3: There's there were there How do how do maybe I 312 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 3: should work to an offer to say this now, I'm 313 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 3: going to say it. Of the fights that happened, there 314 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 3: were four fights that night right. 315 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 4: Four fights on the twenty five fights on the main 316 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 4: five flights on the. 317 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 3: MAK sorry main card exactly. Yeah we got there, like 318 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: we couldn't say that. We weren't there for the whole afternoon. 319 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 3: But yeah, on the main card, you guys stood out. 320 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 3: It was a spectacle. There were the idea of getting 321 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 3: hit in the face. How can I say this tactically 322 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: the idea of you guys looked like you weren't afraid 323 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 3: to get hit. That's what I'm going to say, and 324 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 3: I'm going to leave it there. You guys look like 325 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 3: you were not afraid to get hit. Other people maybe 326 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: didn't look quite like that. You guys looked like you 327 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 3: weren't afraid to get hit. Where does that come from? 328 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: And that might seem like a ridiculous question for you, 329 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 3: but a lot of people are listening in They're like, well, 330 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 3: I don't want to get hit in the face. I 331 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: don't want to get I don't want that. That's scary. 332 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 4: The truth is that it's not something that you're just 333 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 4: born with. It's something that you create with hours of discomfort. 334 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 4: So you have to be putting yourself And also, like 335 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 4: there's a number of things that was very motivating for 336 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 4: this particular fight. Fighting in front of Cape Down. Okay, sure, 337 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 4: your friends, your family, all the people that support you, 338 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 4: my trouble maker community. I'm a gyum owner, I'm a coach. 339 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 4: I'm also the champion. So for me to have come 340 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 4: home this is a big, full circle moment. I made 341 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 4: my debut in the EFC, I thought in Cave Down, 342 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 4: and I never got to come back as a champion, 343 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 4: and I really wanted to embody what that meant. I 344 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 4: wanted to embody the presence of a champion. I wanted 345 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 4: wanted to embody the walk of a champion. I wanted 346 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 4: to embody the fearlessness of a champion. I wanted to 347 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 4: embody the threshold for pain of a champion. I wanted 348 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 4: to be. I wanted to be that warrior champion I 349 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 4: always knew I could be. And I'm so thankful that 350 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 4: the fight was a hard fight because you got to 351 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 4: see how much it meant to me and how much 352 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 4: I wanted to come out on top, even when the 353 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 4: odds were stacked against me, even when things were starting 354 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 4: to look bad, even when the pain happened, even when 355 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 4: I got kicked squad in the face, like the moment 356 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 4: in itself was worth a lot more than any amount 357 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 4: of pain. And I had made that decision before I 358 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 4: got in the cage, and I'm willing to go through 359 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 4: whatever it takes, because tonight, this one opportunity that I 360 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 4: have I may never get again, and I'm going to 361 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 4: come out there and make sure I'm going to be 362 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 4: the best that I can possibly be. This is going 363 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 4: to be the best performance I can bring out of myself. 364 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 4: I want to. I don't want to go into the 365 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 4: fight practicing what I did in training. I want to 366 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 4: go into the fight trying to evolve, trying to bring 367 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 4: bring a version of myself that I've never seen and 368 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 4: out of out of the out of what happened in 369 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 4: the cage. Once I felt that taste for for in battle, 370 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 4: that tastes that hunger, you know, I'd go back there 371 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 4: any day. That was That was one of my favorite 372 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 4: fights of all time. I took one of some of 373 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 4: the most damage that I've ever taken in a fight 374 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 4: in that fight. And may I have many more? 375 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? 376 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 4: Yeah? Also came down, Please Cape down was like the 377 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 4: way they that place was shaking. It was shaking. There's 378 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 4: one video that I watched the fight afterwards that I 379 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 4: swear tears in my eyes as I'm going for the finish, 380 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 4: I'm coming out of a very bad position. And the 381 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 4: Cape Down fans understand MMA, so they understand that I 382 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 4: was in a deep choke and then I rolled out 383 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 4: of the choke and I got the dominant position. And 384 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 4: as the transitions is happening, the crowd volume is going 385 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 4: higher and higher and higher and higher to breaking point 386 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 4: when I finally finished the fight, that the whole crowd 387 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 4: is erupting. That for me was so crazy, like the 388 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 4: stuff that dreams are made of. 389 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 3: Speaking of dreams, Terrence, what is the what's the what's 390 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 3: the dream? For you? What is what? Where do you? 391 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 3: Where do you go? 392 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: Obviously if you ask fighting wise, it's to be in 393 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: a UFC. That's where everyone wants to be. Has going 394 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: to going to change my life, but also my team's life, 395 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: like my family's life. But for now, it's just spending 396 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: time with my kid, a six week old baby. 397 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 3: Six week old baby. 398 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, spending time with him now, just. 399 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 2: Getting to know. 400 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 3: I'll tell you now, that's going to be the hardest 401 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: part of your life. Forget, forget anything else. You wait 402 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 3: when that four month sleep regression kicks in. My friend, 403 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 3: it's over for you, I'm telling you. 404 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: Now, so obviously now chilling with him and the family. 405 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: And just because I've been training ever since my last 406 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: fight before this one, I've. 407 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 2: Been training constantly. 408 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: I was just staying ready because I had so many 409 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: opportunities to go fight overseas, but my visa was giving 410 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: me problems getting that sorted. I went called me and said, hey, 411 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: I want you in a cape Ton cut and I 412 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: was like, cape Ton cud and it's like, yeah, we 413 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: don't want to keep toms, Like, sign me up. The 414 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: opponent doesn't matter. He signed me up, and but yeah, 415 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: that's the main The main goal is the UFC. But 416 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: for now, just spending time with a kid, the family 417 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: and getting back to the wrong board and just elevating. 418 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 3: People might not under might not know what the kind 419 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 3: of what training looks like for for you guys. So 420 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 3: going into a fight, what would that what would that 421 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: look like for you? For PA, when you were preparing 422 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 3: for this, what does that look like? How does that 423 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 3: differ from downtime? 424 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 4: So I was preparing essentially from November, okay even before that, 425 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 4: even before that. 426 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: But it's. 427 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 4: I have a specific style of training. I like to 428 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 4: put myself in a lot of the positions I'm going 429 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 4: to be in for the fight, and I want to 430 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 4: cover the whole basis of the curriculum. So I'm going 431 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 4: to visit I'm going to visit a lot of players. 432 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 4: I'm going to spend time on my back, I'm going 433 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 4: to spend time in top position. I'm going to spend 434 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 4: time walking on my ground and pounds set up, so 435 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 4: I spend time on my takedowns to my takedown defense. 436 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 4: And then once I've once I've sort of covered my 437 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 4: old game, then I start to narrow it out onto 438 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 4: what the opponent is going to bring to the table. 439 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 4: While also if there's any if there's any difficulties that 440 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 4: I'm having trouble with, like my flexibility is not there 441 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 4: and it's affecting my martial arts and my execution of 442 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 4: my martial arts, I go back and I improve on 443 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 4: that that flexibility. I improve on the on the on 444 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 4: the hard way while I'm trying to upgrade the software. 445 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 4: But one of the main things is that you need 446 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 4: to have visited the fight in your mind thousands of times. 447 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 4: You need to have been in those positions thousands of times, 448 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 4: so that when you're there, it's not you don't even 449 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 4: need to think. It's just it's just you just you're 450 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 4: just feeling and it's just happening. It's moment to moment. 451 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,479 Speaker 4: You don't even feel it. It's just what's the word instance? 452 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 4: So I like to visit those places. And then I 453 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 4: also just bowled my body into something that can take 454 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 4: damage and give damage. 455 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 3: How do you how do you build your body into 456 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 3: something that takes damage. 457 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 4: By taking damage? 458 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 3: What does that look like? Face? So I don't it 459 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 3: just I want your wife to come in, but it's 460 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 3: not fair. But I'm just like she, are you watching 461 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 3: like this through? Or are you no? 462 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 4: She was in my corner? 463 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 3: Did you come out behind him? I saw you? That's right. Yeah, 464 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: you're looking gorgeous? Are you not? Does it not bother you? 465 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 4: She actually gave me the five winning advice. She gave 466 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 4: me the five winning advice. So there's this thing that 467 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 4: we work on. It's called Dakistani when you basically trap 468 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 4: an arm and lock up the hips in some or 469 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 4: other way. And if you look at the finishing sequence, 470 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 4: I've got Trend's arm behind him, some little handcuff and 471 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 4: my hips is heavy on his hips and my weight 472 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 4: is holding him there. That's why I can freely punch 473 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 4: him in the head and he's unable to move that. 474 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 3: Moment where he holds onto your leg't. 475 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 4: No more answers, No more answers. But to answer your question, 476 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 4: you don't get strong. You don't chop a three with 477 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 4: one with one soup. You chop it over time. And 478 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 4: the same comes for bolding a body that that that 479 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 4: is ready for combat. I've been doing this for eleven years. 480 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 4: Eleven years have been kicked punched in the face. If 481 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 4: I'm not used to it by now, then maybe maybe 482 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 4: I would just consider doing something else. Right, But you 483 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 4: also have to really really love the sport and really 484 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 4: love being a martial artist. 485 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 3: To what degree do you watch? I mean, are you 486 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 3: Are you someone who's going to get up at two 487 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 3: in the morning and you're watching You're senior doing all 488 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 3: of that, or do you is that? Does that become noise? 489 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. I'll wake up in the morning 490 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 4: at two am, and then I'll watch it during the 491 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 4: week again. Right, so you need to be obsessed with 492 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 4: it and your mind needs to understand it. From a 493 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 4: perspective of being able to just watch it. It's like 494 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 4: you train your eyes. You train your eyes like you 495 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 4: watch a tennis coach. Tennis coach is gonna tell you 496 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 4: your ankle didn't turn enough. That's why your your yourself 497 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 4: wasn't good enough. So you need to have a down 498 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 4: to that finite details. 499 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 3: The goal then, Terrence, you said, is is UFC when 500 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 3: you when you think about role models or inspirations. Maybe 501 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 3: not wrong, but inspirations. I mean everyone everyone's talking about drinkers, 502 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 3: of course, and he was there on the light and 503 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 3: that level of support obviously must be, must be encouraging. 504 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 3: But but beyond Dricus, who for you? Who are some 505 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 3: of your people that you that you go, Yeah, that's 506 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 3: that's what I'm looking to emulate, or that's what I'm 507 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 3: that's this, That's where I'm drawing my inspiration from. 508 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: It started off two sixteen. When I got into it. 509 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 3: It was brave Man touching that belt, Barry. Things could 510 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 3: have just gone horribly wrong for you there, you don't know, 511 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,239 Speaker 3: going sorry. 512 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, So two and sixteen it started off with Connor. Obviously, 513 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: Connor was just this guy that came from out of nowhere. 514 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: Then obviously went on to like Kamara Usman out of 515 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: Site Israel, and then you got Mex Holloway. So there's 516 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: a lot of guys that I look up to, especially 517 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: now there's the last came I've been watching a lot 518 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: of Volkanski's fights and his training camps, so I was 519 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: just taking small boats. 520 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: What are they doing? 521 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: Just adding into my training games as well, especially when 522 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: when it comes to the nutrition side of things. They 523 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: have smart people that show them how to cut weight. 524 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: And I went to eat, how to eat, what to eat? 525 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: And when I started off, it was, oh, you can't. 526 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: Eat fight week. You can eat these small bits. But 527 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: now I can. 528 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: Eat a full meal, three full meals and still make 529 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: weight through fight week. 530 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, ye. 531 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 3: Finds for you. Who are you? Who are your people? 532 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 4: So initially, when I first watched the UFC Anderson's over 533 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 4: the way he moved, the way he knocked people out, 534 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 4: it was like magic. I took a lot of inspiration 535 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 4: for Conomo Grigo. His mindset, his mindset is something still 536 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 4: tod as day. It's unmatched still to this day, it's 537 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 4: it's it's extraordinary, even beyond extraordinary, it's to the point 538 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 4: of mad delusional genius. And then I've been taking a 539 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 4: lot of inspiration from Charles Olivera. The way he puts 540 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 4: his martial arts together. What he does is creativity. 541 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 2: He is a chreation. 542 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 4: I'd like I see a lot of I see a 543 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 4: lot of myself in what he does, and I think 544 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 4: I can. I can. There's a lot of things that 545 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 4: can be good for my style to emulate and thens 546 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 4: just because of where he comes from. And tricus As 547 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 4: the art of a champion. If you if you look 548 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 4: at Ricas fights at half the time, not off the time, 549 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 4: but some of the time it looks like it's really 550 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 4: not going his way. But he always has that championship 551 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 4: sixth year. And that's one that's something that I take 552 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 4: and I think that is a South African thing. I 553 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 4: think that we don't give up easy because I don't 554 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 4: think we have an easy life. I think we are. 555 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 4: We have got quite a tough life. And because of that, 556 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 4: me resilient. We are determined. And if anybody when it 557 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 4: comes to an exchange of who wanted more, I think 558 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 4: we wanted more. 559 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 3: I like that and that is an Unfortunately we're going 560 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 3: to have to end. Thank you, gentlemen for coming in 561 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 3: and thank you for what has to date of this 562 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 3: year been the best night. It was the best night. 563 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 3: It was so good, and now I'm hooked. Who knew? 564 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 3: Who knew that es J was going to turn EFC 565 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 3: fan It's happened. Absolutely thrilled to be in studio with 566 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 3: the champions who are for these Jacob was and also 567 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 3: Terrence Bellelot. When are you coming back to Cape Town? 568 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 3: We can't all be flying up to Pretoria and joe 569 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 3: Burg every five minutes. When's it coming back to it? 570 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 4: If I added my way, it would be next month. 571 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 3: Come on Cairo to Cape Town. Please, gentlemen, thank you 572 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 3: very much indeed, and may you be blessed and highly 573 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: favored in the remainder of your endeavors.