1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: The Money Show African Business Focus. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: Professor Rotendo and Dngu is the founding director of Tribe 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: Africa Advisory and author of Rumble in the Jungle reloaded 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: How's it? Rotendo, Mozambique and the IMF, and we realized 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 2: what a shock it was when we realized how much 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: money was out and what's happened there. 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: Believing Stephen and grieving to a listeners. So, Mozambique obviously 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: implementing a number of keychieties under their leader, President Daniel Chapple. 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: They've cleared a debt of about six hundred and thirty 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: million US dollars Stephen, and in the last month, I 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: think they cleared about one hundred million US dollars because 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: in March they order about five hundred and fifteen million dollars. 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: So this is quite key for Mozambique because obviously it 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: relies a lot in terms of AGREE, natural resources and 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: foreign directing investment. It's always trying to set itself up 16 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: as an attractive investment center the country in terms of sector, 17 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: Stephen of its services, of its the of its GDP 18 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: services sector and about twenty four percent in AGREE and 19 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: then the rest spread across different industrial sectors, GDP growth 20 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: five point four percent, so on in all a positive step. 21 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: And remember, over and above the steven they have that 22 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: huge investment project that has restarted. I gave this year 23 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: the L and G one for twenty billion US dollars 24 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: backed by Total and another number of top world first 25 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: World countries. So only in all steven a right direction 26 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: for mozambiqu They've o really said a bit of political 27 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: instability over the last few months, but it's something moz 28 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: ambig needs to be dead free. I think any county 29 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: would want it, especially to the IMF, and it just 30 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: opens up other opportunities in other areas with regards to 31 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: partner to the IMF. 32 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: It's so interesting to see how quickly that happened. I mean, 33 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: it would obviously really matter in terms of economic reform 34 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: and mozambiqu which is something it seems and I say 35 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: this is an outsider that they've struggled a little bit with. 36 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, they have struggled a little bit of it. To Stephen, 37 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: I mean, six to sixty five percent of the population 38 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: still lives under the poverty line, so this is quite significant. 39 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: So if anything, any bit of help with regards to 40 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: dead relief SME stimulation and FDI investment, especially as I said, 41 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: the energy project quite key because the whole value chain 42 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: that that that that rotates around it will stimulate different 43 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: parts of the economy, with obviously the Capo del Galdo 44 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: and the Teta Air being key. But in a natural 45 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 1: stealing a spot on they actually they need any kind 46 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: of help to stimulate them. But at the end of 47 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: the day, putting away six hundred and thirty million to 48 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: the IMF and not having the dilemmas that we saw 49 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: in Kinga and Nigeria ahead with regards to owe in 50 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: the World Bank and IMF is a positive thing and 51 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: a step in the right direction. 52 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: A Ghana. They've scrapped their visa people people from our content. 53 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: They're still screening though, I mean, what's what's that mean? 54 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: In practice? 55 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: It just means that when you do go on holiday, Steve, 56 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: we'll make sure that Stephen Grocees is Steven Grotes are 57 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: not ROUTNDO. But I think the positive thing about the 58 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: Stephen is that obviously the big thing about the FCFT, 59 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: and remember that the Secretariat for the FCFT actually resides 60 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: in Ghana, and that's his excellency. One kill himself, but 61 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: they have scrapped visa fees from them and the significant 62 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: date is the twenty fifth of May, which is Africa Day. 63 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: They follow suits to four other countries, so the Gambia 64 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: has done the same thing, Ruanda Secials and also I've 65 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: forgotten the other country. So it's the Gambia, Randa, Sey 66 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: Shells and there's one more country that I've forgotten about. 67 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: But all in all, Stephens the reason is the one 68 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: to make it easier for people to be coming in 69 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: and out of the country, which is a positive thing. 70 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: I think the concern obviously is that you have to 71 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: continue the screening. The other upside with the Steven it's 72 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: in line with their e visa system, so they've gone 73 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: digital in terms of the whole process. So even those 74 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: screening is going to be there. The efficient of it 75 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: should be higher from the border control perspective because obviously 76 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: they're using technology and the pre screen happens before. I 77 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: don't think you can stop from a security perspective and 78 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: just managing the borders. I don't think the screening element 79 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: will go away, but definitely it does make it slightly 80 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: easier to go in and out of Ghana. Way that 81 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: you're coming on holiday or coming on business and with 82 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: the whole ambition. I think some of the fees for 83 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: African countries st even were going up to about two 84 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: hundred juist dollars. So in the big vision of ACAFET, 85 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: it's definitely stepping in the right direction. 86 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: No, sure, that is a lot in Courtavoir, the rubber industry, 87 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: a lot more women getting involved there. 88 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: We actually underestimate, I mean until I saw this reports 89 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: the size of the rubber industry in quote if bois, 90 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: I mean we know Cortivoir or the every cost there's 91 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: been a kick producer and export of coco. The rubber 92 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: industry contributes about twenty percent of the GDP and they're 93 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: the fourth probably largest producer in the world and the 94 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: second l in Africa. But a big step has been 95 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: taken by women, and this is with the support of government. 96 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: About five percent of the women on agricultural land that 97 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: is related to rubber and only twenty five percent of men. 98 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,679 Speaker 1: So obviously this is from an inclusivity perspective. The government 99 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: has initiated this just to reduce the gap with regards 100 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: to this and to make up because women probably make 101 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: up about fifty percent of the agricultural labor force in 102 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,559 Speaker 1: one in Courte Devoirs, but they don't own the land. 103 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: So there's an initiative that has gone into place that 104 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: is driven by government to not only allow them to 105 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: participate more actively in the industry, but from an ownership perspective. 106 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: And some of the subsidies Steven go up to eighty percent, 107 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: which is quite significant and since two thousand and nine 108 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: about two thousand, five hundred women in one way or 109 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: the other have benefited from this. So they talked to diversification. 110 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: It talks to inclusivity and economic empowerment, which is a 111 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: step in the right direction Steven. With regards to from 112 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: an Africa pect event, Rabba, as we know, is still 113 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: quite a key commodity from a global perspective. Sort of 114 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: interesting to see how this impacts positively on court Devoir 115 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: and Tunisia. 116 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: They've got this big overland trade corridor plan so to 117 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 2: connect North Africa with the Sahel. 118 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: With the Sahel regions even has probably about one hundred 119 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: and fifty million people, so it's quite a big economic region. 120 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: The key initiative is caused the res Jia crossing and 121 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: it to connect from Libya right through to Nijamali, Bukina, Faso, 122 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: Chad and car And remember when I said conbviously the 123 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: Central Africa Republic. At the end of the day, from 124 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: an Africa perspective, it gets to the Mediterranean and then 125 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: across into Europe. So a positive thing from an infrastructure 126 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: and a trade perspective to Tunisia, which is also quite 127 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: involved with regards to drive in. This whole infrastructure project 128 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: probably is about four hundred Hello, yeah, that was our 129 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: sponsor Steven Yeah. 130 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: Well, I mean obviously Keen and you know they're all 131 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: welcome anyway, Okay, you were talking. 132 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a positive thing and at the end of 133 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: the day, that's how it contributes fifteen percent of intercontinental 134 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: trade stevens. So ultimately it's infrastructure that's needed. The key thing, 135 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: obviously the SAU region is just that whole instability of 136 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: the of the war and the politics. But after that 137 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: it's a great opportunity for the continent and for the 138 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: region from a trade and development perspective. 139 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: I mean, something quite special has happened at the Arunga 140 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: National Park. This is in the eastern DRC. 141 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: There's twenty twenty. It's the first time for them from 142 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: to queen gorillas both male in the Varunda National Park, 143 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: which is the DRC. The way I've added on to this, Steven, 144 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: is that we'll probably see King Kong too coming through helping. 145 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 2: Wow wow wow, yes, okay, very good. 146 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: But I more serious note Stephen, it's quite a big thing. 147 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: There are probably about a thousand gorillas in Varunga National 148 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: Park or in that region. Stephen, it's any twenty three 149 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: infested area, so from a in terms of the civil war, 150 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: it said a huge impact on the gorillas in the 151 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: wildlife there. But a nice story is that these two twins, 152 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: and these twins have been they have been born and 153 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: apparently statistically it's a one percent chance of it happening. 154 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: I think the last time this happened was around twenty twenty, 155 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: and it's just a great story. I think the people 156 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: in the park they just saw one day this this 157 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: this mother gorilla working with these twins, which are both male. 158 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: So it's a significant story, a light story, but always 159 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: encouraging from DRC that's going through a lot, and obviously, 160 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: as I said, I hope too, I'm looking forward to 161 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: the next King Kong two movie that will come out 162 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: based on this, so that's my end of the story, 163 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: but otherwise a great story from the DRC with regards 164 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: to the gorillas. 165 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for center and Dingui, the founding director 166 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: of Tribe Africa Advisory