WEBVTT - openline 0:00:00.670 --> 0:00:03.920 The Aubrey Masango Show on 702. 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:07.880 Let's Walk the Talk. Streaming on the Prime Media Plus app. 0:00:08.100 --> 0:00:09.710 DSTV Channel 856. 0:00:09.710 --> 0:00:11.420 92.7 and 106 FM. 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:20.220 It appears our guest is a little late. We can't 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:22.340 connect with her at this stage, but we're going to 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:25.030 be talking about obesity with Dr. Tracy in a few 0:00:25.070 --> 0:00:28.180 moments time. I asked the question, do you still drink 0:00:28.250 --> 0:00:30.860 water out of the tap? And Manja has just sent 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:33.680 me a message to say, hi, Mr. Masangu, I still 0:00:33.700 --> 0:00:38.320 drink it since 1998. I've been boiling it before I 0:00:38.380 --> 0:00:41.089 can drink it. And that's from Manja in Farina. I'd 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:43.290 love to take calls from you if you are still 0:00:43.790 --> 0:00:53.239 drinking water out of the taps. What are you smoking? 0:00:53.260 --> 0:00:56.200 Give me a call at 118-830-702. The fact of the matter, though, 0:00:56.220 --> 0:01:00.980 is that not everybody has the luxury of not drinking 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:03.160 water out of the taps. You can't just not drink 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.429 water out of the taps. You've got to have other alternatives. 0:01:06.870 --> 0:01:08.470 The fact of the matter is that not all of 0:01:08.550 --> 0:01:14.350 us have alternatives to the tap water that's there. Sure. 0:01:14.470 --> 0:01:16.890 Manda boiled it. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts, 0:01:17.310 --> 0:01:21.910 your calls. Yeah, give me a call at 1-883-0702 while 0:01:21.950 --> 0:01:26.200 we try to connect with Dr. Tracy. Also, perhaps if 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:29.539 you could also give us a call and let us 0:01:29.620 --> 0:01:33.120 know if you are a person that has been perhaps 0:01:33.180 --> 0:01:41.670 diagnosed with obesity. Is it something that affects the way 0:01:41.709 --> 0:01:44.210 that you think about yourself, the way that you view 0:01:44.290 --> 0:01:49.390 the world? I'm interested to hear your thoughts about that. 0:01:49.410 --> 0:01:51.050 I'm going to be speaking to Dr. Tracy in a 0:01:51.090 --> 0:01:54.730 few moments time about that. But Manolo says, hi Aubrey, 0:01:54.750 --> 0:01:57.230 this ANC government will be the end of us. The 0:01:57.310 --> 0:02:01.290 Bronco Spray water treatment works ran out of chlorine due 0:02:01.310 --> 0:02:06.670 to supply disputes, leaving water untreated for 21 days. There's 0:02:06.730 --> 0:02:10.060 no warning issued. Residents were not informed that the water 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:15.490 was unsafe, violating 25 compulsory standards. for water services. And 0:02:15.590 --> 0:02:18.410 what is sad is that people will still vote for them, 0:02:18.990 --> 0:02:21.630 says Bonala. I can imagine somebody's going to say, Bonala, 0:02:21.690 --> 0:02:27.830 it's not the ANC government. It is the Action SA government. Yeah. 0:02:29.110 --> 0:02:30.930 Then somebody else will call in and say, no, it 0:02:30.990 --> 0:02:35.170 is the ANC government with Action SA. You know how 0:02:35.190 --> 0:02:37.169 it goes. You know how we can keep going on 0:02:37.230 --> 0:02:39.730 and on and on and on. And then we get 0:02:39.889 --> 0:02:47.430 caught up in that conversation. But the water won't be fixed. True. 0:02:47.570 --> 0:02:51.710 I've watched how the political elite in this country are 0:02:51.910 --> 0:03:00.620 able to get us to lose focus on the main issue. 0:03:02.860 --> 0:03:10.760 There's a township near Brits called Jericho. Yeah. I've got very, 0:03:10.820 --> 0:03:16.430 very good friends that live in Jericho. And for decades now, 0:03:17.010 --> 0:03:21.030 there has not been a steady supply of water. And 0:03:21.110 --> 0:03:22.710 one of the big issues that they have is that 0:03:22.730 --> 0:03:27.290 the infrastructure is there. The infrastructure is there. It costs 0:03:27.389 --> 0:03:31.269 millions for the authorities to put it in there. There's 0:03:31.290 --> 0:03:33.910 just no water flowing through the infrastructure to get it 0:03:33.950 --> 0:03:37.850 to people's homes. And it's not because the water isn't there. 0:03:38.170 --> 0:03:42.240 Somebody has just not opened the tap. So the water's there, 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:46.120 the infrastructure's there for decades. The problem is that nobody 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.360 has opened the tap so that the water can get 0:03:48.380 --> 0:03:51.000 to where it needs to get to for decades, I'm told, decades. 0:03:54.930 --> 0:03:58.310 And I was talking to an individual who was talking 0:03:58.390 --> 0:04:00.330 to me about this, saying, listen, I need you to 0:04:00.610 --> 0:04:04.310 bring this up. We need the media to come here. 0:04:04.660 --> 0:04:04.880 Yeah. 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:09.790 And I said, okay, sure. But do you realize that 0:04:09.870 --> 0:04:12.030 what's going to happen is that all of this energy 0:04:12.070 --> 0:04:15.510 of bringing the media and everything there is going to 0:04:15.550 --> 0:04:20.510 start a conversation, which might not necessarily bring the water 0:04:20.570 --> 0:04:24.570 to the taps. What it'll do is that it'll start 0:04:24.589 --> 0:04:27.790 a conversation. We'll all be talking about it. I'm a 0:04:27.830 --> 0:04:32.910 media practitioner myself. I wish the media industry the longest 0:04:33.050 --> 0:04:35.810 life possible so that my children can eat and I 0:04:35.850 --> 0:04:39.670 can be part of it. But I think that the 0:04:39.730 --> 0:04:44.170 assumption that if you bring something out into the media, 0:04:46.150 --> 0:04:49.060 it'll suddenly get the attention that it requires and people 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:54.060 will fix stuff is a slightly old idea. It used 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:56.400 to work. We'll just take this thing to the media 0:04:56.420 --> 0:05:01.430 and people will stop. People don't care anymore. People don't 0:05:01.510 --> 0:05:05.370 care about whether or not their story, the story that 0:05:05.450 --> 0:05:08.880 might be disgrace them is going to be out in 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:14.200 the media, they don't care anymore. They couldn't be bothered. 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:19.020 So while I understand that we want to use the 0:05:19.060 --> 0:05:24.430 media in specific ways and it's important, I don't think 0:05:24.490 --> 0:05:31.170 that people are afraid of media exposure anymore. We're there now. 0:05:31.190 --> 0:05:34.870 People just don't care. And sometimes all it does is 0:05:34.910 --> 0:05:42.130 that it provides people with an avenue for changing the narrative. Yes. 0:05:42.350 --> 0:05:45.210 Because now people understand that there's no such thing as 0:05:45.250 --> 0:05:50.350 bad publicity, especially for people that aren't in competition for... 0:05:49.910 --> 0:05:55.600 In other words, there's no other government to compete with, right? 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:58.940 It's them. So for them, it's a chance to appear 0:05:58.980 --> 0:06:02.290 on television and on radio and. 0:06:04.270 --> 0:06:07.710 And say, but this is not how things work. This 0:06:07.770 --> 0:06:10.880 is how we do things. And the reality is that 0:06:11.270 --> 0:06:15.640 no service delivery happens. There's a big conversation. 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:16.500 Yes. 0:06:17.060 --> 0:06:19.740 We get to interview people. We get analysts to analyze. 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:24.840 We talk about it. There's still no water in the taps. 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:27.760 In fact, if there is water in the taps, it's 0:06:27.779 --> 0:06:28.620 full of E. coli. 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:28.820 Yes. 0:06:31.670 --> 0:06:33.690 So, I don't know. Give me a call, please. It 0:06:33.730 --> 0:06:38.530 appears that my guest is not available for whatever reason. So, 0:06:38.810 --> 0:06:41.100 let's just take some calls. I've invited people to give 0:06:41.130 --> 0:06:45.080 me a call and let me know if they are 0:06:45.100 --> 0:06:49.260 still drinking water from out of the tap. Please, give 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:50.099 me a call. 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:50.280 011-883-0702. 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:54.800 Are you still drinking water from out of the tap? 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:58.740 And I'm powerfully aware of the fact that many of 0:06:58.820 --> 0:07:01.160 us don't have a choice but to drink the water 0:07:01.180 --> 0:07:04.029 out of the tap. So do you boil the water? 0:07:04.650 --> 0:07:08.030 Should you be boiling the water? I remember many, many 0:07:08.050 --> 0:07:11.090 years ago when I was a kid, there was an 0:07:11.210 --> 0:07:14.630 outbreak of cholera somewhere. I can't remember where it was. 0:07:15.190 --> 0:07:18.420 But I remember that everybody was boiling the water and 0:07:18.450 --> 0:07:23.080 then hoeing a cup of chicken with a cap, yeah? 0:07:23.100 --> 0:07:23.260 Yeah. 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:25.900 And then covering it overnight. And then only the next 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.300 day we drink the water. And it was a thing 0:07:28.340 --> 0:07:29.360 that everybody was doing. 0:07:29.380 --> 0:07:29.460 Yeah. 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:32.560 The story was out. I think it was in the 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:36.680 80s sometimes. The story was out that there's a problem 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:42.050 with our water. But it was powerfully broadcast. It was 0:07:42.310 --> 0:07:46.770 in the news. It was on radio. You'll remember people 0:07:46.810 --> 0:07:50.510 didn't watch TV at the time at night. Remember Stur? Yeah. 0:07:51.210 --> 0:07:57.900 We come from far. We come from far. There was 0:07:57.940 --> 0:08:00.640 a time when people would gather around in the home 0:08:00.700 --> 0:08:03.990 and you'd listen to a... A radio drama. A radio drama. 0:08:04.010 --> 0:08:04.730 Is that what they call it? 0:08:04.770 --> 0:08:04.970 Yes. 0:08:05.070 --> 0:08:12.890 And if you said, you'd listen to a story. Yeah. Yeah, 0:08:12.910 --> 0:08:13.350 it's a story. 0:08:14.910 --> 0:08:15.550 Oh, my word. 0:08:16.870 --> 0:08:23.910 We'd listen to the radio drama around the end. Hey, 0:08:23.970 --> 0:08:25.230 those days. And then. 0:08:26.690 --> 0:08:28.590 The water would be prepared for the next day and 0:08:28.670 --> 0:08:31.730 everything else. But you would have heard it before the 0:08:31.810 --> 0:08:35.240 radio drama started, while the radio drama is on, and 0:08:35.250 --> 0:08:37.900 then after the radio drama is on, that, hey, there's 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:41.120 a water problem in the country. Give me a call. 0:08:41.140 --> 0:08:42.339 I'd love to hear from you. 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:42.560 011-883-0702. 0:08:43.900 --> 0:08:48.100 LEBS writes, the ANC, have you seen their ad for 0:08:48.140 --> 0:08:50.420 the local government elections? No, I haven't. 0:08:50.500 --> 0:08:52.020 Is there... LEBS is deeply. 0:08:56.850 --> 0:08:58.809 What does it say? What does it have? Give me 0:08:58.830 --> 0:09:04.830 a call. I'd love to hear from you. Somebody writes, evening, Mr. Masango. 0:09:04.870 --> 0:09:07.730 Just last night, I had to drive to the filling 0:09:07.770 --> 0:09:10.960 station to buy water. We once had a terrible diarrhea 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:15.380 because of that water coming from the tap. I wouldn't 0:09:15.460 --> 0:09:18.860 advise you to drink water from the tap for now. 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:25.870 I think that there's just too much evidence that And 0:09:25.900 --> 0:09:30.170 maybe not here in Joburg yet. What we're dealing with 0:09:30.330 --> 0:09:32.130 most of the time is the fact that there is 0:09:32.190 --> 0:09:38.709 no water. But I don't trust our waterworks anymore like 0:09:38.790 --> 0:09:44.090 I did not so long ago. I remember my then colleague, 0:09:44.110 --> 0:09:46.030 John Robbie, would have a conversation with one of the 0:09:46.070 --> 0:09:54.260 guys at Johannesburg Water. I forget the guy's name. And 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:57.630 they'd have regular conversations about the health of the water. 0:09:57.650 --> 0:09:59.930 In the morning when you're driving, you'd be having the conversation. 0:10:01.130 --> 0:10:04.490 The water's been cleaned This is where we are He 0:10:04.530 --> 0:10:07.060 had a very distinct name The guy that John and. 0:10:07.050 --> 0:10:11.439 Robbie used to speak to He was a spokesperson Sputnik 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:17.600 No no Sputnik was I met Sputnik Somebody else. 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:21.250 You think of Sputnik Sputnik Radau No, no, no, no. 0:10:21.270 --> 0:10:25.110 Brasputnik was, which department was, was he also water? 0:10:25.150 --> 0:10:25.410 Yeah. 0:10:25.710 --> 0:10:26.349 I think he was water. 0:10:26.390 --> 0:10:26.630 No, no. 0:10:27.750 --> 0:10:32.370 John Robbie used to speak with somebody from either Rand 0:10:32.410 --> 0:10:37.430 Water or Joburg Water. I think it was Rand Water. Very, very, 0:10:37.490 --> 0:10:41.530 very well-spoken, authoritative sort of voice the guy had. And 0:10:41.750 --> 0:10:45.630 he'd give, you know, periodical reports about where, what's going 0:10:45.710 --> 0:10:48.030 on with the water. And it was really comforting to 0:10:48.090 --> 0:10:54.470 hear those kinds of reports. But now, I suppose, I mean, imagine. 0:10:55.650 --> 0:11:05.600 I'm scared of that woman. I'm afraid of her. What 0:11:05.650 --> 0:11:07.800 happened to her case with that guy that she told 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:11.319 to what, what, what? Because there was a time top 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:16.920 politicians were swearing at people. Yeah. They were swearing at people. 0:11:17.179 --> 0:11:23.700 It gets hard sometimes. You are swearing at people. It 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:28.140 would never be done. It would never be done. 0:11:28.179 --> 0:11:33.490 There was a time when politicians would never ever swear 0:11:33.510 --> 0:11:37.890 at people. In fact, when the former Minister of Water 0:11:37.929 --> 0:11:43.150 and Sanitation said something about, no, we. 0:11:43.090 --> 0:11:52.310 Don't want your votes. What did she say? I mean, then, 0:11:53.910 --> 0:11:56.650 for now, that would be a pretty innocuous thing. I mean, 0:11:56.690 --> 0:11:59.329 nobody would really look back. But she said something about, 0:12:01.309 --> 0:12:03.589 if the rain falls, we'll pick it up. And then 0:12:03.610 --> 0:12:05.870 there was something about, hey, we don't want your votes 0:12:05.929 --> 0:12:08.170 or something like that. And I remember it was such 0:12:08.210 --> 0:12:10.390 a big hoo-ha. It was such a big, big, big 0:12:10.460 --> 0:12:14.740 story because it had never been done before. Politicians didn't 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:16.360 speak that way to the electorate. 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:17.520 Oh, no. 0:12:22.020 --> 0:12:34.770 Give me a call. I'd love to hear from you. 0:12:34.790 --> 0:12:37.210 Let's take a quick break. I'll take your call straight 0:12:37.230 --> 0:12:42.910 after this. Everything you need to know about the local 0:12:42.950 --> 0:12:43.960 government elections. 0:12:49.840 --> 0:13:02.250 Aubrey, I'm telling you, living off grid starts to look 0:13:02.410 --> 0:13:06.260 so much less like a nutty conspiracy theorist kind of 0:13:06.340 --> 0:13:10.500 thing when we assess all of the faults and all 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:15.090 of the nonsense that politicians and greedy business people get 0:13:15.150 --> 0:13:20.570 up to. I guarantee you that living off-grid will emancipate 0:13:20.950 --> 0:13:25.620 the world, not just this country, from such greedy interests. 0:13:29.460 --> 0:13:34.380 Yeah. Yes, Chi-Chi, you are absolutely correct. Chi-Chi has just 0:13:34.420 --> 0:13:40.820 reminded me of the name of the man that John 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:43.620 would speak to. It was Vincent Bath. Thank you very much, Chi-Chi. 0:13:44.500 --> 0:13:49.230 It says, hello, Aubrey. Vincent Bath was an excellent employee 0:13:49.370 --> 0:13:52.929 at Jobo. I remember it because I remember Bath and water. 0:13:52.950 --> 0:13:58.959 I remember. Yeah. Absolutely correct, Chi-Chi. Absolutely correct. Wow. See, 0:13:58.980 --> 0:14:04.910 people remember. And then Senzo says, I don't know why 0:14:04.970 --> 0:14:08.670 the ANC is blamed here. It's the Action SA governing Pretoria. 0:14:09.170 --> 0:14:12.500 We had a problem in Hammanskraal. The ANC took full 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:16.640 accountability there. So let's call a spade a spade. Hey, Senzo, 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:22.440 don't kill me, my brother. Don't kill me. It's the 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:25.340 people that are writing to me and saying the ANC. 0:14:27.100 --> 0:14:30.760 And then Tsepo says, hi, I stay in Dobsonville behind. 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:34.840 police station, clean water has been leaking for years. I 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:38.600 reported it and nothing happened. And that's from Tepo. How 0:14:38.660 --> 0:14:41.960 many times do people keep telling you that? How many 0:14:42.020 --> 0:14:44.460 times do you just drive somewhere and you find that 0:14:44.540 --> 0:14:48.260 water is just leaking and has been for the longest time, 0:14:48.740 --> 0:14:53.400 flowing clean water, flowing down the streets by the kiloliter. 0:14:54.610 --> 0:14:58.730 And I've heard of shows, not only my show, but 0:14:59.150 --> 0:15:02.570 on other people's shows, where people have phoned in to say, 0:15:02.590 --> 0:15:05.350 I don't know how many times I've phoned in to 0:15:05.390 --> 0:15:10.350 tell of this situation. I know that every time I 0:15:10.670 --> 0:15:15.650 phone the city, yeah, the city of Joburg, if there's 0:15:15.690 --> 0:15:19.870 a problem with water or there's a sewage leak where 0:15:19.930 --> 0:15:25.500 I stay, you can't phone after nine o'clock. Nobody's going 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:26.020 to take the call. 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:26.840 True. 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:30.810 You've got to phone... Like at 3 o'clock in the 0:15:30.850 --> 0:15:35.010 morning And I suppose the person I suppose the person 0:15:35.030 --> 0:15:37.840 that picks up the call Is like just curious Who's 0:15:37.900 --> 0:15:42.000 this calling Calling this time But I'm interested to take 0:15:42.020 --> 0:15:47.880 your calls folks Yeah Somebody says Majordina is the rain 0:15:47.940 --> 0:15:51.350 queen Is the rain queen Rain queen is a very 0:15:51.370 --> 0:15:55.870 serious thing Anyway but Here we go I don't know 0:15:55.930 --> 0:15:58.790 whether Majordina Would like to be called the rain queen 0:16:01.250 --> 0:16:07.790 She's got some pretty powerful outfits. Yeah, she's stylish. Like 0:16:08.490 --> 0:16:14.450 hardcore powerful outfits. With bright colors. She's a bright person. Anyway, 0:16:14.710 --> 0:16:17.270 Monica is in Mapeta. Mama Ruthie, good evening to you. 0:16:19.450 --> 0:16:22.720 Oh, good morning. Good evening, Aubrey and your listeners. 0:16:22.750 --> 0:16:23.340 Yes, Mama. 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:26.280 Yeah, there's no water. 0:16:26.300 --> 0:16:26.440 Yeah. 0:16:30.650 --> 0:16:34.530 What was that all about? What was that all about? 0:16:34.610 --> 0:16:37.110 And she would chant that or sing that like. 0:16:37.150 --> 0:16:38.190 But what was she saying? 0:16:38.330 --> 0:16:40.710 What did it mean? But do you know what it means? 0:16:40.750 --> 0:16:40.890 Yeah. 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:04.639 Years ago, Ogri, people predicted that we are going to 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:07.360 have problems with the water. And they said, who said 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:11.280 there's crisis? There's no water crisis. See, we can drink 0:17:11.340 --> 0:17:13.760 this water. Do you remember? 0:17:13.780 --> 0:17:15.360 Yeah, I remember. I remember. 0:17:15.460 --> 0:17:20.859 Yeah, there's no water crisis. Ogri, now we're having E. coli. 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:23.939 And I've got one thing. I want to give a 0:17:23.980 --> 0:17:24.899 heart attack to you. 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:25.740 I do you. 0:17:27.330 --> 0:17:30.150 I mean, there are those scrunch. I mean, I don't 0:17:30.230 --> 0:17:33.810 afford it. I do buy when I have, but when 0:17:33.869 --> 0:17:36.169 I don't have and I'm thirsty, I go to the 0:17:36.210 --> 0:17:38.129 tap and drink water. 0:17:38.950 --> 0:17:43.390 You probably say a prayer before you drink that water, Mamru. Yeah? 0:17:43.910 --> 0:17:46.220 You probably say a prayer before you drink that water. 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:48.000 Yeah, I pray. 0:17:48.020 --> 0:17:56.100 What can we do? Yeah, so, I mean, I'm worried. 0:17:56.340 --> 0:18:00.240 I mean, I have those, I check on the Google, 0:18:00.340 --> 0:18:08.600 the symptoms. I have those minor symptoms. Gastrointestinal issues. Yes, 0:18:08.859 --> 0:18:12.609 if you go to those cramps and get tired and 0:18:13.350 --> 0:18:19.010 getting a UT, whatever, infection in the urine. So I 0:18:19.070 --> 0:18:21.800 tried to, I even went to the chemist, but I 0:18:21.820 --> 0:18:23.090 didn't know that it was E. 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:23.520 Coli. 0:18:23.540 --> 0:18:27.500 So I thought it's something else. But when you go 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:31.139 to the clinic, I'm worried, Aubrey. I want a medication. 0:18:32.060 --> 0:18:37.200 They just tell you that, no, there's no medication. So 0:18:37.660 --> 0:18:40.570 this is the state of affairs that we are in. 0:18:41.730 --> 0:18:44.109 And I wonder what you're going to do about it. 0:18:45.330 --> 0:18:48.570 I remember you said in your show that If we 0:18:48.590 --> 0:18:53.060 have a crisis, are we ready to... But now, I mean, 0:18:53.100 --> 0:18:56.080 the water... I mean, we drank clean water in 1994. Anyway, 0:18:56.100 --> 0:19:00.500 I don't know. We had electricity. We had electricity. 1977, 30, 0:19:00.500 --> 0:19:18.090 19th October, there was this shutdown. Freedom of expression, you know, 0:19:18.150 --> 0:19:22.830 freedom press. So I don't know if we're still celebrating 0:19:22.970 --> 0:19:28.650 it or it has gone with the apartheid era. Especially now, 0:19:28.670 --> 0:19:32.450 these days, as you said, that people can say anything 0:19:32.550 --> 0:19:37.230 and just get away with it. You report, they're no 0:19:37.250 --> 0:19:42.030 longer saying, they've been quoted out of context because now 0:19:42.030 --> 0:19:45.260 we have the reels, we have the TikTok, we just 0:19:45.260 --> 0:19:49.480 quote you as you are, Gwede. Quote what you have 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:54.300 just said. But anyway, you're right that they no longer 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:59.250 care these days and people then don't call them to account. 0:20:00.010 --> 0:20:00.630 They don't care. 0:20:00.670 --> 0:20:03.590 The Facebook, we don't care with your Facebook votes. 0:20:04.770 --> 0:20:08.090 Me, I'll tell you a story, Mama Ruthie. One year, 0:20:12.210 --> 0:20:14.070 I used to have, you might remember this, but I 0:20:14.109 --> 0:20:17.430 used to have a time when people would call in. 0:20:17.510 --> 0:20:20.300 It was still the overnight live situation. And then, you know, 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:25.060 I'd try and help. They'd phone in and say, Aubrey, 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:28.800 this particular department. And then I'd go to the department 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:33.160 on behalf of those people. Once or twice, people would 0:20:33.180 --> 0:20:35.690 listen to me. I'd say, oh, my name is Aubrey Masango. 0:20:35.710 --> 0:20:39.750 I work at 702. I got this problem. or this 0:20:39.830 --> 0:20:43.389 issue came on air and so forth. And once or twice, 0:20:43.750 --> 0:20:45.210 people responded and so forth. 0:20:46.170 --> 0:20:50.830 Ah, now. I mean, I'm telling you, look what the 0:20:50.890 --> 0:20:54.480 bank came up with. My sister has a problem going 0:20:54.500 --> 0:20:58.060 to the bank. I mean, I started telling them with 702. 0:20:58.040 --> 0:20:59.760 They just look at me and say that. 0:21:01.340 --> 0:21:03.920 In fact, I remember one guy saying to me, oh, yeah, 0:21:03.940 --> 0:21:07.260 I listen to you, man. Oh, it's you. All right, man. Hey, 0:21:07.300 --> 0:21:09.760 tell me about, where's so-and-so, so-and-so? I said, no, no, 0:21:09.780 --> 0:21:11.459 I've got this problem. He said, yeah, no, no, we'll 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:16.410 talk about that. Where's Eddie von Malwitz? Hey, I like 0:21:16.430 --> 0:21:19.950 that guy. It didn't even help me. He said, yeah, no. 0:21:20.010 --> 0:21:22.770 And another one told me, listen, this is not 702. 0:21:22.750 --> 0:21:30.600 Come here with your 702 tendencies. Monica, good evening to you. 0:21:30.619 --> 0:21:33.540 Thank you so much. Does anybody know what that chant 0:21:33.580 --> 0:21:38.110 by Mayor Majordino was all about? Try and find it there. 0:21:38.150 --> 0:21:40.210 Maybe you've got a recording of it. Where she was 0:21:40.230 --> 0:21:43.090 at some high-powered ministerial meeting. 0:21:43.869 --> 0:21:44.109 Yeah? 0:21:45.950 --> 0:21:47.930 In fact, it wasn't even a ministerial meeting. It was 0:21:47.990 --> 0:21:51.760 an international meeting where there were ministers of water from 0:21:51.900 --> 0:21:54.720 other countries on the African continent. And she made them 0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:56.220 chant this chant. What was. 0:21:57.940 --> 0:21:59.520 For the life of me, I don't know what that 0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:02.780 chant was about. Here the clouds are coming. Oh, the 0:22:02.820 --> 0:22:06.210 raining is coming. The rain. The clouds. What? 0:22:07.650 --> 0:22:07.870 What? 0:22:09.540 --> 0:22:13.580 What are you on about? At first, I thought it 0:22:13.619 --> 0:22:16.100 was just a joke, you know, because she had those 0:22:16.160 --> 0:22:18.619 like outfits that she wears. So I thought it was 0:22:18.660 --> 0:22:22.290 like a skit of some sort, you know, like this 0:22:22.330 --> 0:22:27.150 thing we've just had recently where they've got a mysterious singer. 0:22:27.170 --> 0:22:34.389 Some mysterious singer. I thought it was, you know, in 0:22:34.430 --> 0:22:35.350 that line. 0:22:36.210 --> 0:22:36.370 Yeah. 0:22:36.430 --> 0:22:39.230 The minister was serious, telling the people to chant this song. 0:22:39.690 --> 0:22:41.710 Mandla is in Johannesburg South. 0:22:41.750 --> 0:22:42.350 Hi, Mandla. 0:22:44.170 --> 0:22:45.250 Evening, Aubrey. 0:22:45.290 --> 0:22:48.230 Evening, Chris. Yeah, go for it. Yeah, I've got to 0:22:48.260 --> 0:22:48.780 make this quick. 0:22:49.500 --> 0:22:50.639 You know something, Aubrey? 0:22:51.700 --> 0:22:56.239 We've had a leak from one of those valves, you know, 0:22:56.260 --> 0:22:57.260 that you get in the road. 0:22:57.280 --> 0:22:58.220 Yeah. 0:22:58.300 --> 0:22:59.840 And that has been running for. 0:23:02.310 --> 0:23:05.869 I won't exaggerate, but close to a year. But at 0:23:06.030 --> 0:23:09.890 some stage, miraculously. 0:23:10.250 --> 0:23:12.010 The. 0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:16.379 Water department came and fixed it. 0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:20.240 And the very next day, a sewage drain. 0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:26.159 Was forced open by the pressure underneath, and then the sewage. 0:23:25.780 --> 0:23:28.619 Started running, yet the water stopped. 0:23:29.609 --> 0:23:30.119 So.... 0:23:32.109 --> 0:23:36.090 I'm not a civil engineer, although one year in China, 0:23:37.020 --> 0:23:47.760 they graduated 147,000 civil engineers in one year in. But 0:23:48.020 --> 0:23:49.440 we don't have the population. 0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:54.050 So we probably need less. But in any case, there. 0:23:53.750 --> 0:23:58.710 Is a definite connection between the sanitation system and the 0:23:58.770 --> 0:24:01.969 water system. And I think there is a fault in 0:24:02.170 --> 0:24:05.320 either one. I think it's going to have a bad 0:24:05.380 --> 0:24:07.000 reflection on our water supply. 0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:13.140 I can certainly tell you that there's a huge bad 0:24:13.540 --> 0:24:22.800 reflection developing in Broncospray. Mine is in Johannesburg South. You know, 0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:25.719 I'm trying to make light of the situation so that 0:24:25.770 --> 0:24:31.040 we don't start weeping. Because there are some of us 0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:36.690 that are old enough to remember when South Africa had 0:24:36.730 --> 0:24:42.830 the cleanest tap water in the world. Not too long ago. 0:24:44.869 --> 0:24:47.390 Not too long ago. When South Africa had the cleanest 0:24:47.540 --> 0:24:54.500 tap water in the world. I don't know if you 0:24:54.540 --> 0:24:59.410 remember that part in I can't remember which movie it was. 0:24:59.430 --> 0:25:04.189 I think it was Jurassic Park where somebody says to 0:25:04.250 --> 0:25:07.590 somebody that, you know, we have to drink the bottle 0:25:07.609 --> 0:25:10.080 of water because that water that is out there is 0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:13.120 not very clean. He says, no, we've got very good 0:25:13.180 --> 0:25:17.119 cleaning systems. So the guy's like looking at the water 0:25:17.180 --> 0:25:20.600 and takes a drink and says, this is very good water. 0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:23.810 The other one that's having the conversation with him says, yeah, no, 0:25:23.850 --> 0:25:27.420 that water that you're drinking now has been in A 0:25:27.450 --> 0:25:32.859 number of people, 17 times. He says that water has 0:25:32.900 --> 0:25:38.340 been in you 17 times. That's how good our cleaning 0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:47.340 system is. I suppose it can make you not want 0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:50.510 to drink water, especially the bottled water. We used to 0:25:50.609 --> 0:25:52.410 simply drink water from the tap. 0:25:53.030 --> 0:25:53.290 True. 0:25:54.150 --> 0:26:01.350 No problem. How far we've fallen. How far we've fallen. 0:26:03.170 --> 0:26:10.760 There's a guy on Facebook. I don't know what his 0:26:10.820 --> 0:26:13.800 name is. But I think he's a Nigerian guy. He's 0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:16.760 always sort of singing the praises of South Africa. And 0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:19.620 he talks about, hey, South Africa. You've got people that 0:26:19.660 --> 0:26:24.650 come and fetch your dustbins every week. They come and fetch. Hey, 0:26:24.890 --> 0:26:27.030 South Africa. Forget what the guy's name is. Somebody's going 0:26:27.050 --> 0:26:30.230 to remind me. And then you find something else. And 0:26:30.250 --> 0:26:33.630 I suppose the idea is for us to be thankful 0:26:33.670 --> 0:26:35.730 for what we've got. And I understand that thinking. I 0:26:35.750 --> 0:26:40.520 get it. And I think he's trying to teach us that, 0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:44.359