1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Good morning, Max. Hey, are you fantastic? Man? You know, 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: I almost said Max mor because of I just you 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: know I'm South African, so I just obviously it's Max 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: no more right, Okay, sorry, but I just I wanted 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: to say, Max Morr, how are we feeling? My friend? 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: Good in you man? 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: Great to meet you, Great to meet you. So Max, 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: I've received a certain song of yours, but I want 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: to get the background of you because you're nineteen, right, 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: I am indeed nineteen years old, and you write songs 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: with such depth, Like seriously, I actually wanted to ask 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: who hurt you? 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 2: Boo? 14 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: But it's fine because I know you teamed up with 15 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: another guy who is very deep when it comes to 16 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: writing and understanding. But I want to talk about you 17 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: for a second. Nineteen So when do you matriculate? It's 18 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: start there. 19 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: I matriculated last year, so yeah, I took the leap 20 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: of faith this year, finally getting started with my career. 21 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: Okay, that's a it's a proper leap. You've gotta have 22 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: good people backing you to get straight into the music 23 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: industry that you know, in South Africa, it is a 24 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: tough industry, but it's filled with passion and filled with talent. 25 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: So tell me when you were in metric or maybe 26 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: grade eleven and you were thinking about, oh, career options, 27 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: was it music or nothing or was there another thing 28 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:19,919 Speaker 1: lingering around that you wanted to study. 29 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 2: Perhaps funny enough, it's actually always been music. My family 30 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: is huge in musical so it was kind of a 31 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: huge influence on me. And I've always wanted to you know, 32 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 2: you always have that image of being a pop star 33 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: one day something out stadiums, so it's always I've always 34 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: loved singing, you know, the singing and the shower vibes 35 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 2: and stuff. So yeah, so yeah, I've always loved music. 36 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: It's always been a big part of my life. 37 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: Okay, so no other like I wanted to be an 38 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: engineer as well, or a palaeontologist to attempt. 39 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: So I actually, funny enough, I've been through i'd say 40 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: a couple of careers wise, well you can't sort of. 41 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: I've done don at one stage, yeah and yeah, and 42 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: also acting. 43 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: But this is great. So you've always wanted the entertainment industry. 44 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: That was your focus. I'm sure you were probably one 45 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: of those people in school that were you part of 46 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: the plays and always part of always cost the certain characters. 47 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: So when you in a school play, is there one 48 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: that sticks out to you in terms of a character 49 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 1: you played? 50 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: Actually? Funny enough for the first that comes to mind, 51 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: I actually played Shakespeare. 52 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: Really to be or not to be? That's cool, but 53 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: I liked it. And Shakespeare is a great writer. And 54 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: we've got to talk about the writing on this this 55 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: track as well, which is fantastic. So Max, I, when 56 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: I heard Stuck on You for the first time, there's 57 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: a lot of depth here, and I suppose somebody could say, 58 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: this guy's nineteen years old, how does he know? But 59 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: then I realized you teamed up with a man called 60 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: Lee Cole. I'd like to know how did you two 61 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: get into the same room to collaborate with a track 62 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: like this? 63 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: So, yeah, Lee's actually been a family friend. So it 64 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: was a friend of a friend and I got introduced 65 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 2: by my mother nice and yeah, we've been writing together 66 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: for quite a while now, around six years. And yeah, 67 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: yeah the song, Yeah. 68 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: That's brilliant. Six years. You know, Lee is filled with surprises. Honestly, 69 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: he never ever, he never ever fails to impress me whenever, 70 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: you know, I learned something more about Lee and how 71 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: much he gives, because he does give a lot. He's 72 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: not just someone that sits in the industry and says, ah, 73 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: this is my thing. I love the fact that he's 74 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: a sharer, and I'm glad that you two could share 75 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: and collaborate. And now we look at the future. So 76 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: the song Stuck on You, let's talk about the depth 77 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: behind it. At nineteen years old, Let's talk about Stuck 78 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: on You and what you wanted to bring to the 79 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: table for anybody listening to this song. 80 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 2: Oh definitely. Yeah, it's a very personal song. It's it's 81 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: actually funny enough about my first heartbreak. So yeah, yeah. 82 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Okay, so tell me. 83 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: Attached to some person. I was attached to this person 84 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 2: and it happened out of nowhere, and you had certain 85 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: expectations that weren't met and things didn't work out the 86 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 2: way you wanted it to, and unfortunately life goes on 87 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 2: and you eventually have to move on. So the song 88 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: is actually the journey I me funny letting. 89 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: Go, even though the song is called Stuck on You, but. 90 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: Lingers. 91 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to especially first heartbreaks. It's amazing how 92 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: we always remember them so vividly in such detail. Oh, 93 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's both terrible, but it teaches us 94 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: a lot about the way we respect ourselves in the 95 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: future and the way we deal with things in the future, 96 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: so that it's important. So I'm sure that somebody who's 97 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: going through it is going to hear this song and 98 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: feel comforted and feel understood and feel heard. And I'm 99 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: sure that anybody who hears this guy called Max More, 100 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: they're gonna want more from you because I think the 101 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: song is really great. So now we move forward into 102 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: the future. I'm certain that there's going to be a 103 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: co lab with Lee Cole on a on a track 104 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure is right. Never know, you never know, something 105 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: could be in the mix. 106 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be in the mix. 107 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. And let's talk about some of the I'm going 108 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: to call their manifestations. These manifestations about what the future 109 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: holds for you. Max. We at the first single, we 110 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: literally at the beginning. Now we look at the South 111 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: African music industry and we think, you know, I'd love 112 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: to connect with that person. I'd love to meet that person. 113 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: What are some of the people that come to mind there? 114 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 2: The first person that comes to mind, I'd reckon is 115 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: people like world in Lee because I find that we 116 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: got similar styles and way of writing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 117 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: So I quite like his music and it's quite inspiring 118 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 2: the way he writes. And yeah, in terms of future, 119 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: I'm hoping to eventually expand my horizons into Europe and 120 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 2: that type of thing. 121 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: Why not don't do it? 122 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: Do it? 123 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: Do it? Don't don't. I feel like sometimes because of 124 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: a certain culture, we try to say, ah, we are 125 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: an African artist, and it's something that I've been trying 126 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: to to really burn out of the industry. Is that 127 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: whole thing? Like oh, the song, the song, you know, 128 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: the song sounded so good. I thought it was an 129 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: international What is that supposed to mean? I hate it 130 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: when people say that, when like, oh, I thought this 131 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: is international. What are you saying about the locals? Are 132 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: you saying that we're not of the order, not of 133 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: the caliber. So we're going to burn that out of 134 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,679 Speaker 1: our minds. And Max, I want you to dream big. 135 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: I want you to go beyond the expectations of yourself. 136 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: I want you to push yourself, work hard, work with purpose, 137 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: work with humility, because those things open the doors for you, 138 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: not small thinking. So that's what I want to bless 139 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: you with at the beginning in our first interview together, 140 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: before we get to the next single and the next 141 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: one and the next one, and then also the announcement 142 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: you know of the European tour, and I need to 143 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: ask permission. I'm going to see Will Lenley quite soon, 144 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: so do I permission to play this song to him? 145 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: That'd be amazing. I'd be super keen. Yeah, oh my god. 146 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: Okay, no problem. I got you back on that. Because 147 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: the thing about making connections is that we have to 148 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: share them. We can't gatekeep the connections we make. We 149 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: have to be open, and I want that culture to 150 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: be spread around the industry a bit more when it 151 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: comes to writing resources contacts. That's what we need to 152 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: be sharing, to open up and to watch each other 153 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: succeed in this industry. It starts right here, and it 154 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: starts by sharing. Max, thank you for sharing your time 155 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: with me. I'm playing stuck on you in the KF 156 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: from top forty is a future beat who knows this 157 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: could be a chot next week the week after next. 158 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: We'll just get to as many people as possible to 159 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: back you, because that's what we should be doing for 160 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: our own people. The way we back the booker is 161 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: the way we should back our local artists. That's what 162 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: I believe. 163 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I'm super grateful. 164 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: Thank you, No problem, Max, more nice to chat to you. 165 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: This is his tracks Stuck on You and of course 166 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: co written by Lee Cole, someone that you know.