1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: And so now we turn our attention to your community 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: news and we have to welcome to the show. Yana 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: skipis and Yana is from Paul Post. She's a journalist. 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: Now you know. In this community news segment, we chat 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: with our friends from the press for hyper local news 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: that matters, and we hear one story that has the 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: community talking. This is quite a serious one. So I'm 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: going to just hand over and say good morning to Yana. Morning, Yana, 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: please tell us about the story that you're highlighting today. 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: And Yara, South. 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: Africa, good morning. Thank you for having me. So in 12 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: a nutshell, we've been covering this specific topic since at 13 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: least twenty eighteen. There is an environmental activist local Poul 14 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: resident been alleging, you've been alleging four years that that 15 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: has a plant or a factory year in Paul has 16 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 2: been operating sort of illegally because of the toxins they 17 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: used to mix the fertilizer in in this factory, and 18 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: and that they're not using the correct procedures to not 19 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: to to not spread the toxins so that people breathe 20 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: it in and so forth. So Yora is an international 21 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: agricultural company with a lot of branches in the EU 22 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: and Americas, also in Africa, and then it has a 23 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: facility here in poll where fertilizer is being blended before sold. 24 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: It's a son because he's he's raised some really serious 25 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: concerns about the operation, saying that not only does it 26 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: expose residents to harmful substances, but he's also alleging that 27 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: the Darkenstein municipality has protected the company and actually alleged 28 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: is that sorry, reports have been falsified. 29 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's there's quite a few allegations. He alleges 30 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: that the local municipality doesn't do anything about it, that 31 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 2: also the relevant state bodies, national state bodies or provincial 32 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: state bodies are also not doing anything, and that they 33 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 2: have not signed off on on on on on your operating. Yeah, 34 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: and that your is ignoring you know, all the yeah, 35 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: all the state bodies telling them not to not to 36 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: blend it and not to operate yere, and that the 37 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: municipality is is supporting them. Residents are quite uh divided. 38 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: There's some that agree with them, especially in the immediate 39 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: area where the SACTU falls in, because obviously no one 40 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: wants to breathe in toxic chemicals and substances. But then 41 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: there's also people that call him a keyboard warrior for example, 42 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 2: So so yeah, it's it's quite a mixed bag in 43 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: relation to what his what his claims are, and if 44 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: he has any support. We are not sure we've reached 45 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: up him since basically we started to cover the story 46 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen twenty nineteen, but he has not provided 47 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: comment yet, so we're not sure where where he gets 48 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: the claims from. 49 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: See, there isn't any sort of evidence that he is 50 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: sharing that supports these claims. 51 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: So he's not really sharing it online. What he is 52 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: sharing is is that maybe emails he sent to a 53 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: municipality or to or to relevant other relevant state bodies 54 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: and their responses to him. But as to evidence, no, 55 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: not really. 56 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: We're talking to Jana Skippers from Paul Poet about a 57 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: story in your community news segment today where your South 58 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: Africa is taking legal action against a pall environmental activist. 59 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: What led this environmental activist to start raising these concerns 60 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: about your South Africa operations in Charleston Hill. 61 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: So we are also also not sure about that again 62 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: because we do not get coming from him. But it 63 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: basically in a natchall, when Yora came here and they 64 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 2: opened this this factory, there was a lot of people 65 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: that was concerned because of the chemicals, so they would 66 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,559 Speaker 2: have been meetings, you know, with Yara and the ward 67 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: councilor and the municipality to try and inform the public 68 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: of their concerns. So, if you know, I think it 69 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 2: comes from that show, Orange just took it a step 70 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: further and actively activ against this factory. 71 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: You know, this sounds like it's quite a tricky story 72 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: to cover, and you guys have been covering it since 73 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. Tell us a little bit about just the 74 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: experience of covering a story where you're not really kidding. 75 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of information or co operation, 76 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: I would say, from all the parties involved. 77 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so a lot of our reporting would handle about 78 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: what would be about the municipal procedures and the feedback 79 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 2: the municipality would give us, for example, public meetings or 80 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 2: council meetings. But then the factory also invited us for 81 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,239 Speaker 2: a visit to their factory, so we could also see 82 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: how they operate and what they do and report from 83 00:05:54,440 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: that point of view. With this latest article we've we've 84 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 2: relied heavily on on this Orange's social media presence, so 85 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 2: he he did say on social media that he received 86 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 2: as he's in assist letter. So we brought that in 87 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: because we could not get comment from him, and then 88 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: obviously reached out to Yora and they said that they 89 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: can't provide much comment because the matter is with the 90 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 2: legal team, but they they can confirm that a legal 91 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: process is happening currently. 92 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: Then I've just got in a text year from Eugene 93 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: Lowe saying, Hi, Saskia, the r factory closed here and 94 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: was moved to Cape Town, so now just cleaning up. 95 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: And that's Eugene in Paul, can you comment on that. 96 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: So recently they have just started to dismantle the factory 97 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: and that as a concern from the public. They are 98 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: starting to break it down and take it down, dismantle everything. 99 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 2: But now the public is asking where does the toxic 100 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: chemicals go? You know, does it just evaporate into the 101 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: air and causes you know, issues for when for for 102 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: when Paul residents breathe it in. So so yeah, that's 103 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: where the process is UNSI standing. 104 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: And will you guys continue to cover the story in 105 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: Paul Post Yanna. 106 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: Most definitely yes as new developments come. 107 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: In fantastic Thank you so much for chatting to us today. 108 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: That's Janna Skippis Paul Post journalists