1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: First we go to what's breaking news on the African continent. 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: Joining me is our correspondent Crystal Ordison and for her 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: two top picks of what's breaking news, and we start 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: off with the DRC becoming the latest African nation to 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: receive US deportees under that new migration deal. Good morning Crystal, Hey. 6 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: Good morning Seskia. So yes, the DRC becomes the latest 7 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: African country to receive those third party nationals. So of 8 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: course President Donald Trump a last year announced that he 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: will be seeing migrants to African nations and also some 10 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: countries in Latin America. And according to the statistics, they've 11 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: already think about fifteen thousand people to those third party countries. 12 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: And of course, human rights lawyers have pointed out that 13 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: you know this is actually legal, but you know, the US, 14 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 2: as we know, have not listened to anyone. And I 15 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 2: spent millions around or forty million dollars just to deport around, 16 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: you know, a few thousands migrants. So the latest now 17 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: the DRT announcing that they will be receiving third party migrants, 18 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: and they are saying they're keeping mom in terms of 19 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: how much money they've received, but of course money is 20 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: on the table because the country cannot afford to take 21 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: on third party migrants. And in fact, the question also 22 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: for the DRC in particulars that they themselves have thousands 23 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: of people that have been displaced in a war in 24 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: the eastern Congo, and so one wonders how that will unfold. 25 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: But it's also points out to what's happening in Africa DRC. 26 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: But the latest country we've we've seen the Ghana came 27 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: to the party. Rwanda, yeah in our own but would 28 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: list to also take third party migrants. We also see 29 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: Uganda announcing in fact they've already received some migrants that 30 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: we see. It's what TV yeah in our good also 31 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: receiving third party migrants and they actually the news came 32 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: out through the work of investigative journalists, that is what 33 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: received millions of dollars to receive the migrants. And so 34 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: now we see the DRC becoming the latest African country 35 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: to take on third party migrants. And so I think 36 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: it's very opaque sus here we don't know any details. 37 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: You know, firstly, people arrive at the like you know, 38 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: kind of underground or cloak and dagger. No one knows 39 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: the circumstances that people arrive is what TV case. We 40 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: know these were hardened criminals that were sent to is 41 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: what you did. But for the other countries, we just 42 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: have absolutely no idea. We don't know how long they'll 43 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: be staying, what happens to them afterwards, if, for instance, 44 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: way in the DRC, where do they go when they 45 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: don't like it's just it's so opaque Saskia. It's actually 46 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 2: quite mind blowing that we just see African nations signing 47 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: up to I. 48 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: Know, because and and and being in a country where 49 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: you're from South Africa, where the Atlantic slave trade that's 50 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: you know, like moving bodies around. I mean, this is 51 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: just feels very wrong. And I'm I'm surprised that the 52 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: countries who are accepting migrants are not going to also 53 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: find themselves in hot water in the future. 54 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: Surely absolutely just here and I think it's your point 55 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: of Atlantic so it's becoming a dumping ground like Africa. 56 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: Africa becomes a dumping ground again for the US's third 57 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: party migrants, and we we just really see, you know what, 58 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: this actually can countries themselves strings strength in their own 59 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: migrant policy because ultimately people at least the country because 60 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: they are not happy. They feel the economic circumstances hasn't changed. 61 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: But clearly you know the US is continuing and they've 62 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: got Africa, they're signing up all of this. 63 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: Well, we certainly hope somebody will be holding people to 64 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: account and countries to account because surely this is this 65 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: is not right. Your your second story is on Mozambique. 66 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: Yes, sorry, is that last week we've spoke about quite 67 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: how mosambig despite its economic challenges and it's got a 68 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: lot we had they call it a male Polish boys, 69 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: young men in Maputo and other cities are actually offering 70 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: manitue of service as well. You wait for your public 71 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: transport across Maputu and it's in an effort to play 72 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 2: their own way in terms of studies or airtime or 73 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 2: just helping families. And so I thought as a follow 74 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 2: up to what we spoke about last week, in a 75 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: very surprise move, have paid their debt, which is millions 76 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: of dollars paid it to the International Monetary Front. So 77 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: we know that in Africa we literally spend like billions 78 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 2: of dollars. In fact, it's estimated has gathered subshar and 79 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 2: Africa owes about ninety six billion dollars in dit. So 80 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: what that means is that all this money that could 81 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: have gone to education, health, cay other social programs countries 82 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: are not able to do it, and in Mozambiquees case, 83 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: that not been able to do it because eighty seven 84 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: percent of their tax revenue have been used to service 85 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: deb and so now in a surprise move, Mosa Mbaka 86 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: has actually paid. They did off and this was ahead 87 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: of time. In fact, the debt was only supposed to 88 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: be done in twenty twenty nine, but they managed to 89 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: service it, which now means that Mozambique is hoping that 90 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: because they serviced the have also shown the commitment and 91 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: the discipline to pay the SEPT that they will be 92 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: able to access other loans or other programs from the 93 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 2: World Bank and the answer and it becomes a bit 94 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 2: of a cycle. But I think it is interesting that 95 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: we now see Mozambique being quite focused and trying to 96 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 2: keep their finances back in order. 97 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: I do love this for them. I wish we could 98 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: follow suit me too. Crystal orders and thank you so 99 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: much for chatting to us, and we wish you a 100 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: beautiful day. 101 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 2: Thank you. 102 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: That's the Africa Report with Crystal ordersm. It is fteen 103 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: minutes after ten. 104 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 2: This is Kital