WEBVTT - Masterclass on Smart living - How technology is transforming modern homes   

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<v Speaker 1>Master Class.

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<v Speaker 2>The Master Class with Real is brought to you by

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<v Speaker 2>Decorates joe bergs Africa's premier decor and design expo, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to be exploring how cutting edge technology is

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<v Speaker 2>transforming modern homes, from smart appliances to energy management, home automation, automation,

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<v Speaker 2>and even how AI is finding its way into our

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<v Speaker 2>living spaces.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to find out from you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, are there any tasks you fully automated in

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<v Speaker 2>your home? Do you trust AI to manage things like security,

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<v Speaker 2>lighting or energy?

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<v Speaker 1>How? How ahead of the curve are you here?

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<v Speaker 2>And then is it possible to even keep up with

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<v Speaker 2>the curve? Things are changing so quickly, aren't there all

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<v Speaker 2>the time? So I'd love to hear from you. Just

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<v Speaker 2>homepage if you are watching us through that. My guests

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<v Speaker 2>on this masterclass is smart Living is Nission pla digital

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<v Speaker 2>and academic of Digital transformation Space and Laserdi Lebojor, Managing

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<v Speaker 2>director of Techroid Solutions. A very good afternoon to both

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<v Speaker 2>of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Can Hi, Nishan Li Sadi.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start off with you when we talk about and

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<v Speaker 2>let's start basic when we talk about a smart home,

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<v Speaker 2>what exactly is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, thank you very much for putting into Jane

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<v Speaker 3>so smart poly so thick about appliances that you have

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<v Speaker 3>in your house. It could be that would be your spots,

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<v Speaker 3>could be your feede right that energy right, So, so

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<v Speaker 3>smart home technology is integration.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh is that a smart intervention there? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>We can we can go ahead, okay, okay, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So, so it has a long chain right from energy

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<v Speaker 3>monitoring and the devices themselves. Right. But in order for

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<v Speaker 3>you to you know, necessarily understand how the ecosysteam works,

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<v Speaker 3>it's all about you know, how automation or acts with

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<v Speaker 3>devices and integration to to to like the likes of

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<v Speaker 3>your mobile phone that you can use to control you

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<v Speaker 3>control everything in your home.

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<v Speaker 1>Nissan, Do you want to add to that? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you seeing?

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<v Speaker 4>So I think, I mean, a smart home is really

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<v Speaker 4>about the customer. It's the use, it's me and you,

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<v Speaker 4>and so I think the idea of smart home, or

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<v Speaker 4>the evolving of smart home has been around a technology

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<v Speaker 4>they call Internet of Things, which is this idea that

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<v Speaker 4>you know, your fridge traditionally wasn't ever connected to the internet,

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<v Speaker 4>or you know, your kettle or your doorbell, and so

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<v Speaker 4>now things that were in your home for a while

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<v Speaker 4>and now connect to the internet, and what are the

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<v Speaker 4>possibilities of that that integration and that sinking of the

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<v Speaker 4>of those appliances together. So smart home really is around

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<v Speaker 4>the For me, it's around the efficiencies it brings to

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<v Speaker 4>the users of that house by connecting things we wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>have thought could be connected to the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>So if that's cooled the smart home, I wonder what

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<v Speaker 2>you call a home full of smart people.

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<v Speaker 1>Smart smart home.

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<v Speaker 4>With a lot of books. It's a lot of books into.

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<v Speaker 2>Integrated books nissansor I mean, tell us what's out there?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's so many things like Alexa, Google Home,

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<v Speaker 2>Apple Home Kit, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>What are they?

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<v Speaker 2>What are we seeing from the lights that are out

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<v Speaker 2>there to the appliances that we can have access to.

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<v Speaker 4>So, Jena, I must tell you I love this topic.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really because I'm not just speaking from a point

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<v Speaker 4>of theory. I've had a smart home in an integrated

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<v Speaker 4>home for a few years now, so experimented as the

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<v Speaker 4>technology has gotten to the mainstream, and so you find

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<v Speaker 4>that Android is probably the leader, at least locally in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of integrating tech and smart homes because I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's it allows the platform is open to a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of third party integrations, which means, you know, you can

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<v Speaker 4>connect a lot into it compared to Apple, So the

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<v Speaker 4>two big ones, Apple and Android, and so what is

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<v Speaker 4>out there. At the very basic level, You've got your

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<v Speaker 4>you know, your lights that you can adjustifire your cell

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<v Speaker 4>phone to the point where your fridge can order groceries

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<v Speaker 4>if it sensors that missing milk and so it can

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<v Speaker 4>tine and order groceries. Or you can control your sound

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<v Speaker 4>by your voice, or you can pause your your Netflix

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<v Speaker 4>as you're watching with your voice. So there's a range

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<v Speaker 4>of solutions, and ultimately it boils on being connected on

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<v Speaker 4>the Internet and sitting on a platform. So Android is

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<v Speaker 4>simply a platform where that integrations happen. But as an example,

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<v Speaker 4>if you have a make of fridge, whether it be

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<v Speaker 4>Algae or whether it be Samsung that has a platform,

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<v Speaker 4>and so a lot of the smart tones do depend

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<v Speaker 4>on what platform you choose to integrate and get the

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<v Speaker 4>value from.

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<v Speaker 2>And Lecedie, what are you seeing? How smart is your home?

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<v Speaker 3>Now? What I have in my house is just as

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<v Speaker 3>smart TV afric Alexa, but I bell implemented it because

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't support most of the appliances, especially in sortificated

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<v Speaker 3>implemented INCA. So once once the reedit to implement locally,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be able to use a Lexa.

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<v Speaker 5>And yeah, I also there's smart lighting you know where

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<v Speaker 5>if it's like x p M, I cantroll it just

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you know, light the lights and then it's

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<v Speaker 5>in the morning six am the lights just reach off.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's what I have currently.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's go back to that French because that absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>fascinates me. So say you say you short of milk Nation,

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<v Speaker 2>how does it I mean, what does it do?

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<v Speaker 1>So it alerts you that we've got a shortage of milk.

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<v Speaker 2>Does it get through to pick and pay or checkers

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<v Speaker 2>or Willis or whatever you fancy.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the next step.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think there's stages of automation. So one of

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<v Speaker 4>the things it does is its similar to kind of

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<v Speaker 4>the if you've heard about the Amazon ghost stores, and

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<v Speaker 4>these are stores where there's no cashiers and you go

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<v Speaker 4>in and you pick an item, and you walk out,

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<v Speaker 4>and it automatically knows what you've put into your trolley

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<v Speaker 4>and and it charges you for it. What it does

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<v Speaker 4>is the fridge can either work on image recognition. So

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<v Speaker 4>what you do is you'll have a place to put

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<v Speaker 4>your fridge and I mean for it to put your milk,

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<v Speaker 4>and a place where you put your vegetables. And what

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<v Speaker 4>you do is you'll give it an inventory and you'll say,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I've now I now added these grosses into you.

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<v Speaker 4>And what it does is it either uses weight or

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<v Speaker 4>it uses image recognition to know actually you're low on

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<v Speaker 4>these on these quantities. And so what you can do

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<v Speaker 4>is you can display the missing items, so it goes

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you need these things because this is what

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<v Speaker 4>you put in the beginning of the month, and now

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<v Speaker 4>you have by the middle of the month, you've you've reduced,

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<v Speaker 4>and this is what you need. But what you can

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<v Speaker 4>also do is you can tighten an automation or smart workflow.

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<v Speaker 4>And so the minute your milk gets below a certain point,

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<v Speaker 4>it can trigger routine. So I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to use too many because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>when you live in the tech world, you can often

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<v Speaker 4>use words that a lot of people don't necessarily instinctively get.

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<v Speaker 1>So routine, I'll give you an example of it.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'll give you an example of routine. When I

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<v Speaker 4>get up in the morning. I've got a Google Home

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<v Speaker 4>speaker in my bathroom, right and the speaker is part

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<v Speaker 4>of an ecosystem of speakers through my house. And what

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<v Speaker 4>I'll do is I'll go and I won't say hey

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<v Speaker 4>and the word because it'll activate my smart systems in

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<v Speaker 4>my office. But I would say to Google a good morning.

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<v Speaker 4>That routine goes into a its platform, and the minute

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<v Speaker 4>I say good morning, it kicks into several routines. One

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<v Speaker 4>is it gives me time of the day, It gives

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<v Speaker 4>me weather, it tells me how long to get to work.

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<v Speaker 4>I've also added that it must tell me a funny joke.

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<v Speaker 4>I like a good smile on my face in the morning,

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<v Speaker 4>it'll tell me any outstanding tasks I have. So if

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<v Speaker 4>I've put any reminders into into you know, over the

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<v Speaker 4>lo it'll tell me the reminders and perhaps my meetings

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<v Speaker 4>for the day if I have, and how long it

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<v Speaker 4>will take me to get to those meetings. And then

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<v Speaker 4>it goes into my news reports. So there's several like

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<v Speaker 4>tech check or CNBC that often have podcasts that they

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<v Speaker 4>release once a week. It will then play those in

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<v Speaker 4>order that I wanted to find little play raterers. So

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<v Speaker 4>this is the routine I kicked in by simply saying

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<v Speaker 4>good morning. It kicks into this while I'm shaving, brushing

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<v Speaker 4>my teeth, et cetera. And so these are smart workflows,

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<v Speaker 4>and so you build these, you know, as you use

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<v Speaker 4>smart you can build these routines in. And that's how

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<v Speaker 4>the fridge would work. You'd build a routine in and

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<v Speaker 4>it could easily API into your Checkers app and place

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<v Speaker 4>the order.

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<v Speaker 2>Got I do love the idea of that because it

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<v Speaker 2>also focuses you nicely in the morning. For example, if

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<v Speaker 2>you've got everything set up for you, We've got a

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<v Speaker 2>caller on the line from Johannesburg, David who owns a

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<v Speaker 2>business and I think you've got a question around SLA.

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<v Speaker 6>Hello David, Hi, good day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 6>So we're a company that install for both residential and

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<v Speaker 6>commercial installations. We use a product that is AI driven.

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<v Speaker 6>The products for the residential site will learn your load

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<v Speaker 6>profile and will automatically read the load shedding schedule and

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<v Speaker 6>understand how much battery capacity you need for a two

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<v Speaker 6>hour or four hour load shedding and automatically charge your

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<v Speaker 6>battery ahead of a load shedding should you have not

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<v Speaker 6>enough battery capacity for that's determined load shedding. You can

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<v Speaker 6>also add smart switches on tur its so for excess

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<v Speaker 6>solar you can then heat up your gizer with excess

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<v Speaker 6>solar or run non essentials off the excess solar, like

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<v Speaker 6>your heat, your pool pump, your heat pump for your gizer,

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<v Speaker 6>whatever it might be. For companies, we can also install

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<v Speaker 6>it so that you can take advantage of the different

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<v Speaker 6>time of uses, so you can now snot arbitraging power,

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<v Speaker 6>so you can charge the batteries off grid and then

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<v Speaker 6>discharge it during high peak time off peak and peak,

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<v Speaker 6>so you can make a saving like that, and it's

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<v Speaker 6>all integrated by AI and the system continue learns your

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<v Speaker 6>load profile and continues to improve the efficiency of the

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<v Speaker 6>plant using the assets that you required, either the solar panels, batteries,

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<v Speaker 6>whatever it might be. So it's all a driven.

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<v Speaker 2>And David a premium for that kind of information.

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<v Speaker 6>No, so it all comes standard with the package. The

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<v Speaker 6>product is very very well priced. What comes with a

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<v Speaker 6>ten year warranty on the batteries and the inverters far

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<v Speaker 6>better than what's currently out there with the other products.

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<v Speaker 6>They've only got a five year warranty and it's a

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<v Speaker 6>swap out warranty, so it's it's not a carry in

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<v Speaker 6>repair warranty, and it's all come standard and part and

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<v Speaker 6>parcel of the products, so it rarely very it's a

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<v Speaker 6>it's a very clever system. And for businesses, specifically for

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<v Speaker 6>business big commercials. We can save customers thousands millions in

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<v Speaker 6>a year just by working heavily with the time of use,

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<v Speaker 6>demand charges and so forth. So it's it's a very

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<v Speaker 6>very viable solution for businesses and reservation.

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<v Speaker 2>Sadie, What do you make of that? I should imagine

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<v Speaker 2>you see quite a bit of that in the word

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<v Speaker 2>that you do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely techinically, Jim, Yeah, so I think nowadays, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I referend who stays in the US, right, he got

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<v Speaker 3>one of his houses in so you know what he

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<v Speaker 3>does he cons his home with smart ticketage while it's

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<v Speaker 3>in the US. So I think once we adopt to

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<v Speaker 3>tech and understand how it works, it will be you know,

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<v Speaker 3>efficient and use of the in a on a user's

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<v Speaker 3>perspective to use smart technology definitely is much you know,

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<v Speaker 3>more helpful is spicly going in South Africa.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, David, thank you very much for those comments.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's wonderful to know what is what's out then

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<v Speaker 2>and what we have access to. I mean a nasion.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I suppose smart technology in a way, it

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<v Speaker 2>can make us a whole lot smarter, right once we

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<v Speaker 2>learn how to control the information that goes into it.

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<v Speaker 4>So Jane, it's it's right because technology can't exist by itself,

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<v Speaker 4>so there's no use to it. And so the technology

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<v Speaker 4>by itself, we've got to go what do we want

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<v Speaker 4>it to do? You know? And as an example, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>give you an example recently. Ring. So Ring is mostly

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<v Speaker 4>in America, but Ring is a digitized doorbell. So what

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<v Speaker 4>it is is it's a doorbell that has a camera,

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<v Speaker 4>on it, and so in America it's quite popular and

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<v Speaker 4>Ring recently announced that they have AI built into their platform.

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<v Speaker 4>So what they will do for premium users is that

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<v Speaker 4>if somebody rings your doorbell, it will automatically identify who

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<v Speaker 4>it is and it will send you a message to say,

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<v Speaker 4>this person is at your door. Now that's quite interesting

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<v Speaker 4>because some people people would say, well, is that not

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<v Speaker 4>an invasion? You know, like what sort of information are

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<v Speaker 4>they collecting to be able to identify me? While other

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<v Speaker 4>people might say, I'd love to know before I open

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<v Speaker 4>my camera and look at it and open the door,

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<v Speaker 4>I'd love for an ogation to say, you know, Jane's

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<v Speaker 4>at the door, Niches at the door, or you know

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<v Speaker 4>that mother in law is at the door. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>you'd love that kind of information. But people have a

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<v Speaker 4>different view on it. Is it about being too invasive

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<v Speaker 4>or it does it add value? And ultimately it's got

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<v Speaker 4>to be where it'd add value. So the previous caller

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<v Speaker 4>talked about a system that adds value, and that's what

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<v Speaker 4>you've got to decide is how much is going to

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<v Speaker 4>add value? Because maybe a fridge that's going to cost

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<v Speaker 4>you one hundred thousand ran that simply tells you what's

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<v Speaker 4>missing in the fridge is maybe doesn't add as much

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<v Speaker 4>value as you like, but perhaps speakers that you could say,

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<v Speaker 4>please play a song for me and you anyway in

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<v Speaker 4>the house and it plays that song could be massively

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<v Speaker 4>valuable to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a listener wants to know the name of

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<v Speaker 2>that fridge. I mean, where do you find these fridges

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<v Speaker 2>and how much can you pay?

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<v Speaker 4>So they are quite extensive. So the fridges that have

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<v Speaker 4>that are connected to the Internet and they generally have

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<v Speaker 4>LEDs LED displays on the front of the fridge. I

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<v Speaker 4>know Algae and Samsung and there's some boutique technology companies

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<v Speaker 4>that are working on it. Those fridges. They are going

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<v Speaker 4>to be very expensive. So you would look at probably

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<v Speaker 4>close to one hundred or two hundred thousand rand for

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<v Speaker 4>a fridge that will tell you what's missing in it.

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<v Speaker 4>The capability is there, and the question is whether you

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<v Speaker 4>know any new technology is massively EXPERI I remember when

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<v Speaker 4>I started experimenting in the space, it was expensive to

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<v Speaker 4>buy my first Google speakers, but as time went by,

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<v Speaker 4>an Xbox had it integrated as part of its console.

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<v Speaker 4>So now I had it into Greatest as part of

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<v Speaker 4>the tech I was buying. And so now the price

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<v Speaker 4>point has dropped significantly to be able to automate QR

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<v Speaker 4>I mean little NFC tags that can enable some of

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<v Speaker 4>this automation. Sometimes five rand for a little sticker. So

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<v Speaker 4>the price has come down, but it's almost separating the

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<v Speaker 4>trend from what is functional in your life and what

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<v Speaker 4>will become useful for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Nicka from Polokwania, I have that answers the question about

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<v Speaker 2>the fridge, and le said Nicko also wanted to know.

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<v Speaker 1>About the TV.

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<v Speaker 2>You were talking about the smart TV, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>what you were saying was that maybe it's not smart enough.

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<v Speaker 1>You could definitely go smarter. What direction would you go?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, you know and the best when it

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<v Speaker 3>comes to smart TV, so that like basic stuff like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, your Netflix, intact it with your Gmail account

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<v Speaker 3>so that it can have access to all of those

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<v Speaker 3>so so so the smartest of the television, it's more

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<v Speaker 3>around you know, asking the's a Netflix switch, say if

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<v Speaker 3>you want to to to watch at that stage or

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<v Speaker 3>you could easy to go to you know, any other

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<v Speaker 3>channel and you know, use your voice to access the

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<v Speaker 3>til that you want to you want to watch at

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<v Speaker 3>that stage smaller tis that we have currently that we use.

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<v Speaker 1>And process.

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<v Speaker 2>Smart technology to help me to be more efficient with

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<v Speaker 2>energy or to improve security is absolutely a necessity. But

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<v Speaker 2>a smart fridge is an absolute waste of money and

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<v Speaker 2>promotes laziness. Just check what needs you need yourself, stand

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<v Speaker 2>up and go and buy it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's got a good point, hasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, do you do you think the smart technology

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<v Speaker 2>starts to make us lazy? Do we start relying on

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<v Speaker 2>on this technology when actual fact we should be doing

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<v Speaker 2>it ourselves.

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<v Speaker 4>Jane, you know there was I was sorry, Sorry, sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>I got ahead. Oh okay, I was saying that, Jay.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean recent research came out that said that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>use of chatch Ept like jenitebay I can actually make

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<v Speaker 4>us dumber and and and I think the question is

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<v Speaker 4>about what skill do you need to experiment now that

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<v Speaker 4>will become a norm in the future. So uh, it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's I think I believe it is necessary to experiment

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<v Speaker 4>with technology in your home. So if you, if you

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<v Speaker 4>allow me, I'll give you an example. I've got a

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<v Speaker 4>I've got an h old daughter, and I've been talking

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<v Speaker 4>to my house for many years, you know, asking it

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<v Speaker 4>to for a recipe to play a song, to pause

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<v Speaker 4>the TV, to switch on the lights, and children learn

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<v Speaker 4>from what you do and h The other day, I

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<v Speaker 4>was at gym and my my Spotify account. The song

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<v Speaker 4>I was listening to completely changed, and I was wondering,

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<v Speaker 4>what is going on into some Korean kind of song,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, k pop, And so I changed it back

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<v Speaker 4>and it changed again, and I realized that what had

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<v Speaker 4>happened was my daughter was engaging with my home So

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<v Speaker 4>she was chatting to my Android system, my Google home

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<v Speaker 4>hub and asking it to play a song that she

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<v Speaker 4>had heard on TV or something she watched on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 4>And so she had learned to engage. Maybe so she

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<v Speaker 4>had engaged with that technology, and so she has now

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<v Speaker 4>learned to skill to how you ask technology to give

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<v Speaker 4>you something, because there's a very specific way you've got

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<v Speaker 4>to ask it to play a song on Spotify, so

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<v Speaker 4>not just a song on its native app, but through

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<v Speaker 4>a specific platform. And so now I've got to actually

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<v Speaker 4>create a profile for her in a voice print for

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<v Speaker 4>her because she's engaging with the technology. And so I

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<v Speaker 4>believe that the needy is we've got to experiment with

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<v Speaker 4>the technology, We've got to play with it, because if

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<v Speaker 4>we don't, then the future is going to pass us by.

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<v Speaker 4>So the minute we have more tech, think of smartphones.

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<v Speaker 4>You know you we removed but from smartphones. If we

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<v Speaker 4>weren't playing with the technology and need it in our life,

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<v Speaker 4>we would never have We never learned the skill of

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<v Speaker 4>operating a phone without buttons, and now zero buttons on

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<v Speaker 4>the phone. And so the question is what's skilled do

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<v Speaker 4>you want to learn in terms of tech that's going

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<v Speaker 4>to add value to your life going forward. So I

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<v Speaker 4>do believe you have to experiment with it. Maybe it

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<v Speaker 4>isn't the fridge, because the fridge is I do agree,

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<v Speaker 4>you've got to get up and look at what's in

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<v Speaker 4>your fridge.

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<v Speaker 2>We all want to know that we can afford it,

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<v Speaker 2>but maybe we shouldn't go that route.

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<v Speaker 4>But there's other aspects where it's good to learn. It's

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<v Speaker 4>good to know how you engage with your voice assistant

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<v Speaker 4>on your phone. Why because you don't want to touch

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<v Speaker 4>your phone when you're driving. But if you know how

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<v Speaker 4>to engage with your assistant, you can easily make a call,

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<v Speaker 4>sender WhatsApp, check your messages without picking up your phone,

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<v Speaker 4>and that could be useful as well as safe.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we're speaking about managing transforming modern homes and

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<v Speaker 2>what it is that you need to do to upgrade

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<v Speaker 2>your home to get a smart home with my guests

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<v Speaker 2>Nasion Pillay and lace Le Bojo, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be taking your questions and your WhatsApp notes which have

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<v Speaker 2>been coming through seven or two masterclass, so master Class

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<v Speaker 2>today Smart Living, How technology is transforming modern homes.

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<v Speaker 1>Norman has sent us a voice.

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<v Speaker 7>Note, Good afternoon, Jane. Very interesting topic, nomen in pretoria.

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<v Speaker 7>But what I'd like to find out is what happens

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<v Speaker 7>if you take a system like the ring that he's

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<v Speaker 7>talking about. What happens then when the authorities come and say,

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<v Speaker 7>we would love to have access to this system, so

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<v Speaker 7>that if your system recognizes the most wanted medaer that

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<v Speaker 7>the police have been chasing and it says that this

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<v Speaker 7>person is outside the door at XYZ address, we want

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<v Speaker 7>to be able to get that inform mention immediately from

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<v Speaker 7>your system and then being able to act. Would the

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<v Speaker 7>company that runs this system have their right to say no?

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<v Speaker 7>Or does a country just basically make a rule and

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<v Speaker 7>a law that then makes it impossible for them to

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<v Speaker 7>say no?

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<v Speaker 2>JHN Nasion soon as you brought up that doorbell, would

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<v Speaker 2>you like to answer that?

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks, Jane, I'm having a good smile because it is

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<v Speaker 4>often with technology were the fear is the first thing

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<v Speaker 4>that comes up, right, like what happens with our data?

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<v Speaker 4>And this was an interesting case. I mean, ultimately it's

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<v Speaker 4>about trust, and so the question is the brands you're

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<v Speaker 4>engaging with, do you trust them? So there was a

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<v Speaker 4>case in America where Apple, they had actually asked Apple

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<v Speaker 4>for data and Apple had said no, and they went

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<v Speaker 4>into a court case where the government wanted data. And

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<v Speaker 4>so the question is do you trust ring to be

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<v Speaker 4>able to protect your data and not use it? So,

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<v Speaker 4>as an example, I always think of you know, we

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<v Speaker 4>see those Vooma tel towers, you know the cameras they're

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<v Speaker 4>all over Jannersberg. They've got cameras and they and they

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<v Speaker 4>ultimately have some version of AI or software built in

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<v Speaker 4>where it's image number plate recognition, and so the question

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<v Speaker 4>is do we trust that they are keeping the data

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<v Speaker 4>for themselves? So, as an example, if I wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>track a cheating partner, can I have access on a

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<v Speaker 4>prepaid basis to track a number plate and see where

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<v Speaker 4>it goes around the city? You know, the question is

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<v Speaker 4>do you trust that the intention you give your data

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<v Speaker 4>for is used? So Poppy says, the intention whatever you

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<v Speaker 4>signed off that data, so you signed off the contract,

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<v Speaker 4>the intention that you had it must be used for that.

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<v Speaker 4>But we know with spam calling, we know, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>databases and information gets shared, and so for me, it

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<v Speaker 4>always comes down to how much do you trust. I've

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<v Speaker 4>got a lot of information in the Android ecosystem, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's because it's given me value, It's given me no

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<v Speaker 4>reason to doubt it, and I trust it, whereas other

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<v Speaker 4>people it might be a different experience. For me, it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's not. It doesn't come down to the ts and cs.

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<v Speaker 4>It comes down to reputation and trust of the brand

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<v Speaker 4>that you're engaging with, because they ultimately hold you down

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<v Speaker 4>the city.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what sort of research should you do? What

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<v Speaker 2>should you be looking for when you're buying this type

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<v Speaker 2>of equipment?

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<v Speaker 1>What are the red flags?

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<v Speaker 3>I think what you need to do is to, let's

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<v Speaker 3>say Phillips that has the specific the technology you need to,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, go through their website and research more at

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<v Speaker 3>the product that they have because they're the ones who

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<v Speaker 3>knows more about the product, right they will tell you, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the posts and contact at the product. You know how

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<v Speaker 3>efficiency the product is, you know, how can the product

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<v Speaker 3>help you, you know those kinds of things. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 3>what I would say, I would say, uh, research base

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<v Speaker 3>is more into you know, going through their website to

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<v Speaker 3>understand specifically what that products have. You know, more information

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<v Speaker 3>about the product.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, somebody has asked how we get in touch

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<v Speaker 2>with both of you, and we can get that information

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<v Speaker 2>out just closer to the top of the hour, so

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<v Speaker 2>we will get onto that. Jackie sent a funny message

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<v Speaker 2>saying jen z z z lived dangerously answering the phone

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<v Speaker 2>without knowing who's calling, and swinging milk from the fridge

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<v Speaker 2>past itself by date.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 2>A message here from Sarana saying, Hi, Jen currently have

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<v Speaker 2>about twenty nine smart devices, ranging from air cons speakers, lights,

0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 2>humidifier and heaters. But I can never find myself buying

0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 2>a fridge and washing machine. They're not smart enough yet

0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:38.560
<v Speaker 2>you still have to put the dishes and laundry and

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<v Speaker 2>that's the hard part. The downside is the subscription costs

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<v Speaker 2>to many devices.

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<v Speaker 1>Nission.

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<v Speaker 4>It is because you know, there's a model called platform

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:55.120
<v Speaker 4>business model and platform business models is where like Android,

0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:57.400
<v Speaker 4>it's not on the devices where they make their money.

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<v Speaker 4>They make their money on the platform, which is the software.

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<v Speaker 4>And so quite often it's a subscription service. So as

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<v Speaker 4>an example, I don't want ads on my YouTube, I

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 4>pay for a description. I want Spotify to not play

0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:11.440
<v Speaker 4>with ads. I purchase a premium Spotify and so annuity

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<v Speaker 4>income is key for a lot of these tech which

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<v Speaker 4>is income that is recurring, and so there's a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of subscriptions for the different services use. So my advice

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<v Speaker 4>on the cost is try to pick an ecosystem. To

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:26.439
<v Speaker 4>try to find an ecosystem, I've chosen Android, and so

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<v Speaker 4>as an example, any connectors, I'll buy a dumb TV

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:34.960
<v Speaker 4>as an example, I'll buy a standard TV that doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>have any smart capabilities, and I would buy a media

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:40.439
<v Speaker 4>player Android media Player, and I connect it to the

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<v Speaker 4>smart TV. I'm into the dumb TV and what it does.

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<v Speaker 4>It gives me the functions of a smart TV, but

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<v Speaker 4>in an Android ecosystem, so I don't have to be

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<v Speaker 4>on a Samsung Eco half the while. Yeah, exactly. So

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's value for money I would and so I

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<v Speaker 4>would buy so I wouldn't buy a smart light. What

0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:00.639
<v Speaker 4>I would do is buy it and excuse it me

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:02.639
<v Speaker 4>calling it dumb, you know, but I would buy a

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:05.280
<v Speaker 4>dumb light, and I would I would buy a little

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:08.720
<v Speaker 4>switcher that connects to the internet that simply turns the

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 4>electricity on and off on that light, and so I

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:14.200
<v Speaker 4>can talk to my my Google ecosystem and I can

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:16.399
<v Speaker 4>switch the light on and off, even though I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>paying the cost and getting into a different platform of

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<v Speaker 4>a different lighting system.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's stick with costs.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say, I mean, how realistic is it for the

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:31.840
<v Speaker 2>average South African to adopt smart home solutions? Is there

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<v Speaker 2>a good way of getting in getting your toe in there?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, do you start with plugs? Are they smart plugs?

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<v Speaker 2>What's your advice?

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<v Speaker 3>So I would say you would start with, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>small devices that are avoriable. I'd seen you know, turners

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:51.879
<v Speaker 3>and marketplace where you can buy the same product that

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:55.680
<v Speaker 3>some song silly you could also go through to say

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<v Speaker 3>you do I apply it to ali that devices that

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<v Speaker 3>do cheaper than buying from some some which will you

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<v Speaker 3>know add more quostly And so I would say, rather

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<v Speaker 3>you do your research on you know which other bands

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 3>are there are that cheaper that you can go for.

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<v Speaker 1>And nishan if you were to start.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, one of the things in my home that

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:22.159
<v Speaker 2>drives me absolutely bonkers is plugs. And I've got, you know,

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:24.879
<v Speaker 2>one plug and it's got the wire coming out and

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:28.120
<v Speaker 2>four wires coming out. I can't stand. It drives me mad.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if there is a smart plug option

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<v Speaker 2>out there. I mean, is that a good way of starting?

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Should you start with that kind of framework? Let's get

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 2>the plugs in, let's get that talking to the TV?

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<v Speaker 1>What what way?

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<v Speaker 4>I would say? I mean it always comes down to

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<v Speaker 4>the value to you, because you could follow a trend

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 4>and it adds no value to you and it becomes

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 4>you know, it becomes useless in your life. I would find,

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<v Speaker 4>what is the thing that you want to automate? Is

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 4>it you don't like putting the light on and off

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:00.760
<v Speaker 4>on your bedside table? You want to which the fountain

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:03.719
<v Speaker 4>on outside, but you don't want to walk outside and

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:05.760
<v Speaker 4>turn them and put on the plug. Do you want

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 4>to pause your TV? Do you want? You know, find

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 4>the thing you want? You know, for some people it

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 4>might and for a lot of people, I mean friends

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<v Speaker 4>have given this advice to their coffee machines. So quite

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 4>often that you know, you don't want to go to

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 4>the coffee machine, you groggy in the morning and then

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 4>have to turn it on and now wait for it.

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 4>And so you like that it comes on at a

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<v Speaker 4>certain time and when you go down, it's nice, it's hot,

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 4>it's perfect drinking temperature, ready to go. And so a

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:32.200
<v Speaker 4>lot of people go, Okay, I've got this coffee machine.

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 4>Let me buy a smart plug. And then once that

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 4>plug is smart, once that that, once you've connected that

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 4>plug to the internet and your platform, you could put

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 4>on and off times. You can. You can talk to

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 4>your phone say switch on the coffee machine and it will.

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 4>It will then actricity on, it'll it will switch on.

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 4>And you know, you can get these things as cheap

0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 4>as one hundred to one hundred and fifty rand for

0:29:56.440 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 4>a Wi Fi enabled plug. And so it's simply it's

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:05.160
<v Speaker 4>between your electricity and your device and it's simply an

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 4>on and off switch. But it's connected to the internet.

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<v Speaker 4>And I mean recently, I mean I always like stories, Jane.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you another one. I was buying bulbs for

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 4>the house and my daughter said, I said, what color

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 4>cool white or warm white? And she went rainbow color.

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 4>I went, okay, but you know that's not gonna work.

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 4>But through that conversation we ended up buying a Wi

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<v Speaker 4>Fi enabled bulb for her for her night light, and

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 4>so now she can actually change the color of a

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 4>night light because the bulb changes color, and so that

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 4>for her added maximum value and it's simply a way

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<v Speaker 4>to engage with technology.

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<v Speaker 1>Fascinating. God, She's going to be the coolest little kid,

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>isn't she.

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:53.480
<v Speaker 2>We're going to keep talking about how technology is transforming

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<v Speaker 2>modern homes and how to go about It's a quick

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<v Speaker 2>spot break Nextler two masters. All right, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>how to make your home smart. And there is a

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 2>question here about home equipment has been very susceptible to

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 2>lightning damage and expensive to replace.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's SAIDI do you want to answer that that's a problem,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? Yes, it does you know affect you know as

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<v Speaker 3>so what I would say is that you know, some brands,

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 3>it's difficult for them to fix that you know product

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 3>like at that specific time. It might take you know

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 3>some time to go and fix it. But I would

0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 3>say it is better if you know the company isn't

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 3>isn't in the certificate market. It does you know, local

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 3>support where they could do it locally and then fix

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 3>it in in tailia as.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say Lebojo, Managing director of tech Roid Solutions. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to put this voice note to you, nishi and

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 2>academic in the digital transformation space, let's listen to it.

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:05.960
<v Speaker 1>It's from Kyle Jane.

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<v Speaker 8>The smart home debate always needs to come down to

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 8>what do you expect something to do. I think we

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:13.760
<v Speaker 8>watched The Iron Man once and thought that a smart

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 8>home can do all of that. To some degree, it can,

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 8>but if you're going to go down this streete, it's

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 8>important to look into your options. There's an open source

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 8>platform called homer Systems that most people use, and this

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 8>allows all smart devices, or almost all smart devices, to

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 8>talk to almost all other smart devices, so you're not

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 8>stuck onto one company's platform.

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<v Speaker 4>For example, I.

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 3>Have my cameras.

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:42.920
<v Speaker 8>My cameras can act as therefore as motion sensors, and

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 8>if it's a cat that opens up the water sprinklers

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 8>and sprays cats that come into my property. So none

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:53.239
<v Speaker 8>of those or all of those four different systems are

0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 8>from four different companies, but you are able to allow

0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 8>them to integrate into one central.

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<v Speaker 2>Huby Nicham, would you like to respond to that? And

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<v Speaker 2>I must say, it sounds confusing. Is it something that

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 2>somebody like me could do?

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 4>So the Jane, the thing is it's around trying and

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 4>error and trial and error. So you know, sometimes we

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 4>talk about the use cases, like the first time we

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:21.959
<v Speaker 4>did it, it worked, and I'm sure the caller before

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 4>before he got the system working in terms of the

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 4>sprinklers and the cat and the and the and the cameras,

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 4>there was probably a lot of trial and error and failure.

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 4>And we often think failure is a bad thing, but

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:35.800
<v Speaker 4>it's not because that's where the learning comes from. And

0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 4>so you've got to be able to experiment. So Jane,

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:42.400
<v Speaker 4>to answer your question directly, it's not you can absolutely

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 4>get into this. It's simply if you go into a

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 4>store and you buy a smart plug or you audit online,

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 4>you plug it into your coffee machine, you're connected via

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 4>the instruction. Now you've got your coffee machine working, but

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 4>maybe you can't get the right voice, and then you're

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 4>experimenting with how to get the right time to activate

0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:00.400
<v Speaker 4>the coffee. Then that adds maximum value you go, you

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 4>know what, I'd love to automate that reading light. And

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:05.720
<v Speaker 4>then you try that, and maybe you'll try a different plug.

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 4>And so it really is when it comes to technology,

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 4>because it's shifting all the time, and the more we

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 4>use it, the cost keeps on going down, you know,

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:17.360
<v Speaker 4>economies of scale. Yes, we have to be experimenting with this.

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:19.719
<v Speaker 4>We have to be trying this out, and we have

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:22.239
<v Speaker 4>to be playing with the with the tech and the

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 4>systems to find out what works best for us.

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 2>You've mentioned your daughter and how she sounds very tech savvy.

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:35.360
<v Speaker 2>But is there a danger for kids here in this world?

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 2>What sort of measures can you put in place to

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:41.480
<v Speaker 2>make sure that they don't face any dangers they're not exposed.

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 4>From experience? As an example, the tech in myles is

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:52.319
<v Speaker 4>not mobile, so the speaker she's talking to, engaging with

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 4>is stationary. She can't lift it up and walk with it.

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 4>And one of that is that she has to physically

0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 4>go to somewhere to interact. And I think that physical

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 4>activity is important. Technology shouldn't prevent us from or disrupt

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:11.719
<v Speaker 4>our humanness, our ability to be active and get outside,

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 4>and so we must have a balance. It must make

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:16.560
<v Speaker 4>our life easy and how we protect this is if

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 4>we feel that technology is disrupting our ability to socialize,

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:25.000
<v Speaker 4>our ability to interact, our ability to go outside, our

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 4>ability to appreciate a conversation, then we need to think

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 4>about Okay, hold on, is it too much of technology?

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 4>Have we have? We have we disrupted something that's useful

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:39.480
<v Speaker 4>for something that is not, but ware it adds value

0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 4>and adds to our life. So, as an example, I

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:45.319
<v Speaker 4>love that my daughter can play a song because she

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 4>wants to dance with me, or she wants to dance

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:49.880
<v Speaker 4>while we're cooking in the kitchen. But now that she

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:53.719
<v Speaker 4>can interact with it by a voice, she doesn't have

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 4>to now get a phone in a different device. It's

0:35:56.520 --> 0:36:00.359
<v Speaker 4>a natural way she interacts to add value to what

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:02.719
<v Speaker 4>she's doing. And I think that's the key, because you know,

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 4>you can say limits screen times. You know that we've

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:08.800
<v Speaker 4>read a lot about this, but each individual is different,

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:11.839
<v Speaker 4>each parent is different. We've just got to focus on

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:14.800
<v Speaker 4>what is healthy behavior and what is not as human beings.

0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 1>How concerned are you about that? Lessay?

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what do you see when it comes to

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:24.280
<v Speaker 2>these spaces and kids and how to protect them?

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 3>Okay? So I would say, like for you, let's say

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 3>if your kids using mobile device, as a parent, you

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 3>can have full control on the mobile device so that

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 3>maybe they can they cannot do no access proloctly, for example,

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 3>and you know stuff that you know it will be

0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 3>beat for them. So I would say you put measures

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:49.280
<v Speaker 3>in place where you could have control over the device

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:52.399
<v Speaker 3>so that you can be able to block stuff that

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 3>you know are not necessarily for the kids to look at.

0:36:56.760 --> 0:36:59.759
<v Speaker 2>And Nissa, what's what's coming up next? What's coming up

0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 2>in the next five years? I should imagine it's hard

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 2>to guess, right because it's changing so quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>For me, there's probably two things. One is proactive tech.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, I work in a business that manages

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<v Speaker 4>insurance and manages properties, and one of the things we've

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<v Speaker 4>seen is devices connected onto geezers to tell you before

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<v Speaker 4>it's about to you know, bust or tells you when

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<v Speaker 4>something needs maintenance or a car perhaps needs maintenance, or

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<v Speaker 4>something's gone. And so proactive risk, I think we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to see a massive trend in that. And that's talks

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<v Speaker 4>to ring being able to identify users because it proactively

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<v Speaker 4>identifies who you don't know and warns you before you

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<v Speaker 4>get to the door that there's a stranger. And so

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to see the rise of automation and devices

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<v Speaker 4>that's going to be more proactive to add value to

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<v Speaker 4>our life. And the second one is I think location

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<v Speaker 4>devices are going to want to know where we are.

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<v Speaker 4>If we walk into a room, it's going to want

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<v Speaker 4>to know we walked into that room. Why because we

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<v Speaker 4>might want a certain light to come on as we

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<v Speaker 4>walk in and certain music to play. Maybe we want

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 4>the TV to come on so we don't have to

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<v Speaker 4>reach for the remote. And so in terms of home automation,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to I predict a rise in proactive technology

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<v Speaker 4>and also location, so so it really understands who you

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<v Speaker 4>are and knows where you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Saidie, what what excites you? And what is your message?

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<v Speaker 2>To any of the listeners who want to get into

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<v Speaker 2>this briefly.

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<v Speaker 9>If you will, I would say take a little of

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<v Speaker 9>Jack said me, because you know we have we have people,

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<v Speaker 9>we are busy, right, we don't have time, so we

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<v Speaker 9>need convenience.

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<v Speaker 3>So once we have convenience in your home. Once once

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<v Speaker 3>you have convenience may be through your phone. You know

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<v Speaker 3>you would be able to attend to methos that you

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<v Speaker 3>know needs your attention, your full attention, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and if somebody wants to get hold of you,

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<v Speaker 2>how do they go about that?

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<v Speaker 4>My number.

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<v Speaker 3>To six. So we have our company website which is

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<v Speaker 3>w take it solution to sue the city?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, thank you very much for that.

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<v Speaker 2>And Nissa and your your word of advice to anyone

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<v Speaker 2>who wants to get in wats any red flags? Any

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<v Speaker 2>any If you could sum up this conversation, what what

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<v Speaker 2>would the takeaway be?

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<v Speaker 4>Don't be afraid, you know it's that he checked his

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<v Speaker 4>guide to the galaxy. Don't panic, don't be afraid. There's

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<v Speaker 4>accessible technology out there. Don't be afraid of it. Experiment

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<v Speaker 4>with the pilot, go small, and don't just think it's

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<v Speaker 4>for a younger generation. My you know, over at old

0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:48.360
<v Speaker 4>grandfather happily does internet banking on his tablet. And so

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<v Speaker 4>technology isn't for for certain ages. It's your willingness and

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<v Speaker 4>hunger to experiment and and fail and fail and then

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<v Speaker 4>finally succeed and grow and learn. And that's that's my advice.

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<v Speaker 4>So don't panic, it's going to be okay, but try

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<v Speaker 4>out technology.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Just want to put this question to you from a

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<v Speaker 2>security point of view. I mean, so much that we

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<v Speaker 2>do now is reliant on our face face recognition, finger recognition.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it safe to put your home in that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of environment with that sort of technology overseas?

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<v Speaker 4>So it is a lot of the reputable platforms are

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<v Speaker 4>encrypted and so they have security layers built in. Example,

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<v Speaker 4>if you have a camera in your house, you can't

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<v Speaker 4>just access that camera if you're in a Wi Fi.

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<v Speaker 4>It requires you to be very close to the camera physically.

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<v Speaker 4>It acquires a log into that platform. So my advice

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<v Speaker 4>for you, if you experiment within, stay within trusted ecosystems,

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<v Speaker 4>reputable ecosystems. You know there's millions of reviews out there.

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<v Speaker 4>Stick within reputable ecosystems to maintain your security. Make sure

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<v Speaker 4>there's passwords and protects and encryption between the technology and

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<v Speaker 4>the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And if anyone wants to get hold of you, how

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<v Speaker 1>do they go about that?

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<v Speaker 4>The easiest way is through my LinkedIn profile. So I'm

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<v Speaker 4>managing director of ASI Financial Services niche PLA n I

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<v Speaker 4>s H A n p I double l A Y

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<v Speaker 4>over LinkedIn. I'm very responsive on direct messages and you'll

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<v Speaker 4>also see some of my thought leadership there as.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, nih PLA and the Cite Leboro. Good to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you.