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Speaker 1: Finishing off with music this morning, we'll be chatting to

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Speaker 1: somebody from Hassan Nadas. Music can be many things, but

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Speaker 1: for some artists, it's a conversation, a constant exchange of rhythm,

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Speaker 1: energy and emotion between musicians and an audience. And that's

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Speaker 1: exactly what music should be conveying. That's a philosophy behind Hassanadas,

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Speaker 1: a kept on bard group with a distinctive but collaborative

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Speaker 1: sound that were formed in twenty ten in the band

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Speaker 1: has spent many years crafting a fusion of African roots

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Speaker 1: and Latin grooves, and it's a sound that's both intricate

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Speaker 1: and accessible, designed to move people whils still feeling warm,

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Speaker 1: and also inclusive and the heart of the idea of

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Speaker 1: listening and responding in real time. Each performance becomes that

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Speaker 1: shared moment and that shared experience shaped by the intuition

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Speaker 1: and connection of the audience. John Son from Hassan Nadas

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Speaker 1: joins us this morning. Very good morning to you, John,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to Get Talk.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Thank you for having me on your show.

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Speaker 1: What is it actually when you say music is a conversation,

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Speaker 1: It's not just an audience sitting there and you making

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Speaker 1: music on stage.

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Speaker 2: Yes, when we play, we also want we also want

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Speaker 2: the audience to to participate with us, you know, seeing

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Speaker 2: you know, sometimes clapping, you know, on the beat, you know,

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Speaker 2: and that makes I think makes the music given more

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Speaker 2: more life.

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Speaker 1: How would you describe your music? You know, it's infusion

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Speaker 1: of African and Latin influences. What is the base of

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Speaker 1: your sound?

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Speaker 2: Okay, my sound is more like it's small like Afro Latin,

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Speaker 2: you know. So I mix African African rhethms with a

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Speaker 2: bit of Latin because I do have influence also my

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Speaker 2: dad's you know not also a musician and the Portuguese speaking.

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Speaker 2: So I grew up listening, you know to Brazilian music

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Speaker 2: and and some sorts of stuff. And I also played

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Speaker 2: with different musicions like like Mira Macay but you must

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Speaker 2: Stimala and I took some of those writings that I

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Speaker 2: learned because I started to play them. I was only

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Speaker 2: twenty years old, and I traveled almost half of the

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Speaker 2: world with the storying. So I mixed those groups with

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Speaker 2: a Latin groups and a different language. Sometimes you could

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Speaker 2: be of Zulu, little bit of son and little bit

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Speaker 2: of English and a little bit of Portuguese.

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Speaker 1: How much of your music is actually planned. You probably

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Speaker 1: go on set and say to yourself, this is what

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Speaker 1: we're going to do for the evening, because you need

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Speaker 1: to plan otherwise you fail. So you need to know

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Speaker 1: exactly what structure you're going to have on stage and

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Speaker 1: how much of act that is actually improvised where you

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Speaker 1: you know, normally, John, you get to a gig and

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Speaker 1: you say to yourself, this is what we're going to do,

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Speaker 1: and then everything because of the audience, they love the

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Speaker 1: music so much that it actually goes in a different direction.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I agree with you, but I'm very lucky when

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Speaker 2: it comes to that because we we've been together for

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Speaker 2: fifteen years, so we have so much of a repertoire.

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Speaker 2: You know that we can when you get there, we

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Speaker 2: can just look at the crowd and say, Okay, these

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Speaker 2: people on like is but you'll prefer to play this

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Speaker 2: type of music. So sometimes you do make your repertoire

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Speaker 2: at all, but when you go to the gig, you

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Speaker 2: change because of the crowds.

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Speaker 1: What has the journey been like performing in Cape Town

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Speaker 1: since twenty ten. I mean, you've been around now for

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Speaker 1: fifteen years on the Cape Town scene, and it's lovely

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Speaker 1: because We've got our local people in Cape Town who

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Speaker 1: probably love going out and they love sort of you know,

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Speaker 1: going to a place where this music involved. But Cape

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Speaker 1: Town also has a big tourism market, and to feed

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Speaker 1: that tourism market must be one of the nicest things.

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Speaker 1: So what has that experience been like over the last

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Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen years since twenty ten.

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Speaker 2: Actually we started to come and play this site on

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Speaker 2: the night is nineteen ninety when the time of Galaxies,

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Speaker 2: Images and all those nightclubs. So we used to play

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Speaker 2: covers with a band called lodgings On. We still have

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Speaker 2: a band called Loading Zone, and then we recorded with

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Ludius. So we've been playing. We ain't kept on

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Speaker 2: for almost like twenty five years ago. Only moved to

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Speaker 2: Cape Town in nineteen ninety eight. So it's a bit challenging,

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Speaker 2: you know, because this music that we play not everyone

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Speaker 2: not everyone in a sense, but now I think people

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Speaker 2: love the music in the changing.

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Speaker 1: The thing is that you you've probably grown a nice

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Speaker 1: bass in Cape Town of people who regularly come to

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Speaker 1: your gigs, and they could regularly come to you to

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Speaker 1: listen to your music, So you know, marrying marrying African

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Speaker 1: music with Latin American influences. Is here a similarity or

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Speaker 1: was it very different?

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Speaker 2: It is different, you know because issually before that, I'm

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Speaker 2: very lucky that people will come and support and thank

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Speaker 2: you for for the people that do come to our shows. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's different because find on the Latin group and an

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Speaker 2: African group. It's different. Not everyone liked Latin music and

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Speaker 2: not everyone likes like African music. So we do few covers.

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Speaker 2: Also when we do live shows, you know, just to

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Speaker 2: to cater for everyone that comes and watch our shows.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about the new song that we we actually about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna play a song called Mama Sita. What inspired

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Speaker 1: that song?

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Speaker 2: And this song actually for all the women that you know,

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Speaker 2: they're strong and they're doing it for themselves. You know,

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Speaker 2: women that worked up in the morning, you have to drive,

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Speaker 2: you go and drop the kids, single mothers, you know,

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Speaker 2: and some they're not even mother yet, you know, but

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Speaker 2: they're doing things for themselves and also for a special

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Speaker 2: someone that we we all have, that special someone that

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Speaker 2: you know you always want to do something or write

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Speaker 2: a song or look after or she looked after you

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Speaker 2: and you decided to write a song. So this song

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Speaker 2: is about that, well, John has and it's not y

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Speaker 2: it's not yet out. It's going to be you guys

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Speaker 2: are gonna be the first ones to play the song today.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna drove this song next week.

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Speaker 1: John Hassen, thank you so much for your time, Thanks

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Speaker 1: very much for giving us the opportunity to actually play

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Speaker 1: this song for the first time. And uh and of

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Speaker 1: course you know, for us to debut this particular song.

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Speaker 1: It's a song from Hassanadas and it's a song called

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Speaker 1: Mamasita