1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Cape Talk A Worldview from London with Adam Gilchrist. 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: With my man, Adam Gilchrist. Hope you are looking forward 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: to your weekend. One of the weekend plans. 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 3: Oh, for some reason, I've strapped myself up for a 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 3: load of works. I'm working tonight and working Sunday. I mean, 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 3: how stupid is that? So when I see you on Monday, 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 3: I won't be refreshed at all. You'll probably be able 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 3: to spot it. 9 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: I spent all of my bitroll budgets in the first 10 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: two weeks of the month, so I will be spending 11 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: my time at home. But not just me. Around the world, 12 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,959 Speaker 2: in Ireland, the fuel crisis is leading to roadblocks and protests. 13 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I haven't clocked any protests in South Africa 14 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 3: about the petrol or diesel prices going up so much. 15 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: I haven't seen any here in the UK, and I've 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 3: had a thing. Most countries haven't had actual people protests, 17 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: and in some cases, certainly across Europe, governments have stepped 18 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: in to try to keep things with a lid on, 19 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 3: not always successfully. But in Ireland, as you say, in Ireland, wow, 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: we're talking blockades, blockages on roads, tractors pulling across it's 21 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: not just farmers who are protesting. In some cases slow 22 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 3: moving convoys that are blocking motorways and other highways and 23 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 3: smaller roads as well. Irish police have been moving in 24 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 3: trying to get rid of the blockades, as they put it, 25 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 3: and of course they're now also putting a squeeze on 26 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 3: the supply of food, fuel, water, animal supplies, which is 27 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 3: the thing compromised by the energy prices in the first place. So, 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: just to put it in perspective, petrol in Ireland is 29 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 3: now just under two euros elite roughly speaking thirty eight 30 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: rand elita, and diesel prices are just over two euros 31 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: elita roughly speaking forty rand elita, So that's a fair 32 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: old amount and the Irish aren't happy. 33 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: South Africa, maybe forget how good we have it because 34 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: of petrol perlita currently around the twenty three round marks 35 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: open cheap in South Africa. Maybe why are we not 36 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: seeing as many protests? Yeah, but then let's go to 37 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: a man who survived two weeks in a flooded mine 38 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 2: in Mexico. 39 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Mexican Army divers basically had to go in. It's 40 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 3: a flooded underground tunnel or series of tunnels. Really, a 41 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: dam had burst near a gold mine in the Mexican 42 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 3: city of Sineloa. Twenty one of the miners managed to 43 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: get out, four were trapped, one dead, one still missing, 44 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: one found after five days. And then there's the story 45 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: of Francisco Zabata Nayera, who was stuck three hundred meters 46 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: below flooded tunnels all around he couldn't get out. He 47 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 3: was finally located after thirteen days. Can you imagine in 48 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: waste high water in the darkness. Well, he had a torch, 49 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 3: but he used it sparingly so that if and when 50 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: the rescuers came. He says he never lost faith during 51 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: his ordina. The rescuers did finally turn up and find 52 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 3: him at the sort of arm's length, and then they 53 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 3: had to try and drain some water off to get 54 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 3: him out of the tunnel. So they gave him some 55 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: tuna and energy bars and scarp it and said, look, 56 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 3: you stay here for another twenty four hours before they 57 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 3: actually finally pulled him out. That must have been the 58 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 3: hardest bit he'd been found and then kind of abandoned again. 59 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 3: But it's at least a happy ending for the unforgettably 60 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 3: named Francisco Zapatan Ehera. 61 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: And then Adam, what's the difference between this proud to 62 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: be a part of this program. 63 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: Well, I have to say I spoke to a very 64 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: special person, Wayne Gretzky, who I think you know, the 65 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: Great One, And I spoke to your Prime Minister and 66 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: many other friends I have in Canada. They are so 67 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: proud of you, and you have a lot of courage. 68 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they'd want to do that. I'm 69 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: not even sure if the Great One would want to 70 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: do that, to be honest with you, but you have 71 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: a lot of courage doing what you're doing, a lot 72 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: of bravery and a lot of a lot of genius. 73 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: But they are very very proud. 74 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: Of you, and in silence yes, and then compare that to. 75 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: This Canadians just wanted one point of reassurance that the 76 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: preferences for maple syrup over nutella. 77 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: On on your pancakes in the morning. 78 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: I'll take that as a. 79 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:35,119 Speaker 2: Formal conversational AUTOMUS crew to the Canadian Prime Minister, Mark 80 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 2: Connie has compared to Donald Trump. Apparently the White House 81 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: blamed it on a on a on a delay in 82 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: the connection, but I'm not buying that. 83 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: No, the gap was very long. In fact, the gap 84 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 3: wasn't really closed ever at one stage. Anyway, there were 85 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: some other bits. I suppose it was a bit more interchange, 86 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 3: but the opening was extraordinary. Donald Trump went on, I 87 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 3: I think I made it about two minutes. So you're 88 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 3: talking to an artemist crew and a very expensive link. 89 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 3: And it was all about Donald Trump boasting about this 90 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 3: and being proud of that and crumpeting the crew. He 91 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: also at one stage sort of only grudgingly admitted that 92 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 3: one of the crew is Canadian, which I think was 93 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 3: a bit of a problem for him because he wanted 94 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 3: it to be all about America. But the thing is, 95 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 3: what was this mission about? And now they might welcome 96 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 3: back with some data, as they're saying, Mission pilot Victor 97 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 3: Glover says, they have a lot of photos and stories 98 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: to share. The commander of the mission, Read Wiseman, says, 99 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 3: the greatest gift was seeing a lunar eclipse. There were 100 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 3: so many moments where we go, wow, look at that, 101 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: this is amazing. It was a bit Katie Perry in 102 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: space at times. So was this a vital scientific expedition? 103 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 3: Was it a spin around the block to road test 104 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: a new vehicle, which is kind of fair enough you 105 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: have to road test a new vehicle. Or was it 106 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 3: really a great big photo opportunity for a bunch of 107 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 3: holiday snaps. I'm not convinced. It wasn't number three largely. 108 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: For me and what I understand, it's preparation for a 109 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: landing and the ottomis five phase on the south pole 110 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: of the Moon, deep in a crater where we won't 111 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: have water molecules that would have been evaporated or bent 112 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: up by the sun, and all tried to do this 113 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: before a Russia and a China can do it. We 114 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: forget space exploration is important when it comes to scientific research, 115 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: but what human history space history has taught us. It's 116 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: all got to do with an arms rates. It's all 117 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: got to do with act militarization. And I think we're 118 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: back in another space rate. 119 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: Still, it still felt a little bit to me like 120 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 3: somebody got a new car decided they would test the 121 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 3: journey to work and then kind of went round work 122 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 3: and didn't park and went home again. 123 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 2: But of course it's splashed down for the Artemis two crew. 124 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 2: I think the early hours of Saturday morning here South 125 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: Africa time. 126 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: I think you're right, so I think it might be 127 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: eighteen hours from now, more or less. And yeah, and 128 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: also that word splash down, we don't get to use 129 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: it very often. When else do you ever use splashdown 130 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: except with a space rocket in this case the orion 131 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 3: returning to Earth. So it'll be somewhere in the Pacific 132 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 3: off San Diego. Yeah, early hours of tomorrow. 133 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: Adam Gilchrist. Enjoy your work weekend and I'll chat to 134 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: you tomorrow on Monday, bright and early your time,