1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Seven two Weekend Breakfast Fitness All you need to know 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: about staying fit. 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 2: It's nineteen minutes after six o'clock. 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 3: Welcome back to seven or two Weekend Breakfast with mcgogs 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 3: and film. It's a Saturday morning, so we talk fitness 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 3: and over the last couple of years, there's been a 7 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 3: big emphasis on why all of us need to be 8 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 3: doing strength training, particularly if we want to be in 9 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 3: better health, have better care, stability, balance in our older years. 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 3: Strength training is the kind of thing all of us 11 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 3: should be doing. Men, women, regardless of age. We've been 12 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 3: encouraged to do strength training bad. You might be wondering, Okay, 13 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 3: maybe I want to do a bit of strange training, 14 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 3: but what should I be wearing on my feet to 15 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 3: lift weights? 16 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: Should you be wearing your running shoes? 17 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 3: Should you be doing your barefoot And if you go 18 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: to the gym, you'll see different people do different things, 19 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: So which is the correct one? We join now on 20 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: the line by a podietrist at Waterfall Podiatist Incorporated. Lauren 21 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: Brown joins us via zoom. Lauren A very good morning too, 22 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 3: Welcome to Weekend Breakfast. 23 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: Good morning gigs. 24 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time. This morning. 25 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: That's a pleasure. 26 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: So when many of. 27 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 3: Us think of I guess the gym and weights or 28 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: doing strength training, you don't really think about what's happening 29 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 3: with your feet. You think, well, you know, i'll need 30 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: running shoes for the treadmill if I'm doing a bit 31 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 3: of like the liftical, But you don't think about what's 32 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: on your feet and strength training. But that seems to 33 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 3: be quite an important part of our strength training that 34 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 3: we should be thinking about. 35 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 2: Is that great? 36 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely? Absolutely? You know, the shoes of your are so 37 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: important and should be activity specific, should be activity specific. 38 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: So when it comes to weightlifting in a gym versus 39 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: running on the trademill, those are two completely different movements 40 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: and it's important that you are thinking about that. A 41 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 1: lot of people don't think about their shoe off until 42 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: there's a problem, actually. 43 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: And so then what's happening to our feet, because I 44 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: guess that's also important. 45 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 2: What's happening to our feet? 46 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: What are our feet doing when we are lifting weights? 47 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: So it's important to distinguish between what is running and 48 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: what is weightlifting. Weightlifting is almost a static movement. Running 49 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: is more dynamic. It's a forward movement. So a running 50 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: shoe is designed to help you move forward. You've got 51 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: to move your body mass from the back of your 52 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: foot to the front of your foot in order to 53 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: propel you forward. So there's a whole bunch of cushioning. 54 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: Your forces have been increased as you do that. I 55 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: think you have almost double the body weight on your 56 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: heel strike when you're doing that. So you want cushioning 57 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: and you want a fluid movement going forward. Weightlifting is 58 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: very different. It's a more of a static movement. You 59 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: need a stable platform and you need something that's going 60 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: to give you stability so that you can so that 61 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: you can actually have enough stability to lift the weight 62 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: without falling over it or compensating and injuring yourself. Right. 63 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: It's always interesting to go around the gym and see 64 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: what shese people are in because some of the things 65 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 1: I do are quite interesting actually, and how people feel comfortable, 66 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: you know lifting weights. 67 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, so some people you know, I know, for instance, 68 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: I go to the gym and my running shoes and 69 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 3: my walking shoes, and so when I do lift weights, 70 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: I do that in my running shoes. Other people take 71 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 3: off their shoes and you'll see some people at barefoot 72 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: in the gym. Other people will wear sort of those 73 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: kind of minimalist shoes, those almost those like barefoot shoes. 74 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: Is there such a thing like weight lifting shoes? 75 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: Are they particular shoes that are designed to help you 76 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 3: or support your feet and your movement as you do 77 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: strength training and you lift weights. 78 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: So they are specific weight lifting shoes. So now we 79 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: have to look at what kind of weightlifting are you doing. 80 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: Are you doing Olympic lifting or are you just lifting, 81 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: you know, five kg dumb bell. So it's important to 82 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: you think wish that because you can get a weightlifting shoe. 83 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: These shoes are specifically designed for very heavy weights, so 84 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: it is a very rigid shoe. It has additional straps 85 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: to keep your foot locked into the shoe, and you 86 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: have a heel raise, so your heel will be higher 87 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: than your toes and that's generally between one to two 88 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: cent to me to raise difference. And it's extremely firm, 89 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: extremely firm. When you look at a running shoe, and 90 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: this is also were running. Not every running shoe is equal. 91 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: If you are running in a carbon plated shoe, you 92 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: please do not take that to the weightlifting section of 93 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: the gym. If you are running in a super bouncey shoe. 94 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: Don't take that either. That is not going to give 95 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: you a firm, stable platform to stand on. If you're 96 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: sitting with a run of the mill running shoe and 97 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: it's quite firm in that you doesn't feel like you're 98 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: standing on a marshmallow, you would get away with it 99 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: with lighter weights. But yes, there are specific running shoes. Rebook, 100 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: Nike added Puma are your sort of main brands that 101 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: specialize in weightlifting shoes. They're not as really available as 102 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: you may think. I think it's more more leaning towards 103 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: your professional weightlifters who would branch out into a shoe 104 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: like that. But ultimately, if you understand the characteristic of 105 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: the shoe that you looking for in terms of weightlifting, 106 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: you should be fine. You've just got to make sure 107 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: that it's really firm. I see a lot of guys 108 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: in converse or like a really flat van that is 109 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: a sort of a very solid flatchue. The only thing 110 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: that you have to remember about those is that you 111 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: have no heal lift, so you might not be as stable. 112 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: You know, often when we're lifting heavyweight, it's like a 113 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: squat or something like that, or a deadlift. You know, 114 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: we get we want to activate our glutes, and to 115 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: activate our glutes to make our core strong. It actually 116 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: helps to have a heel lift, you get better glute activation. 117 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 3: Right, And so then what if you're the kind of 118 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: person that prefers to do your weights barefoot or in 119 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 3: your socks because you said that, you know, one of 120 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 3: the things you should be looking for in a shoe 121 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 3: you're going to be using for your weightlifting is that 122 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 3: it's a nice firm shoe that assists you with that 123 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 3: bit of lift. If you are barefoot, you don't have 124 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 3: I guess that additional lift and that additional support. So 125 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 3: is it a good idea to be weightlifting barefoot? 126 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: This whole? I think weightlifting barefoot is an interesting concept 127 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: because the danger lies not where you think. There's a 128 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: lot of people end up injuring their toes either they 129 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: drop a weight or they turn around and they bash 130 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: their toe into a weight or something. So shoes are 131 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: design to protect us. Let's wear a shoe because we 132 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: if you're going to be out of permission if you 133 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: go and stump a toe and injure a nail, break 134 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: a digit or something like that. So I'd be very 135 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: careful about doing it. The other thing is, you know 136 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: you don't have when you have when you're standing on 137 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: that stable base of a potential weightlifting shoe, you do 138 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: have some interaction with the ground and something that's actually 139 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: going to protect the bottom of your foot, and that's important. 140 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: So often these gyms have noble floors in the weight 141 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: section and you can actually. 142 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 4: Injure your fiber and franking pads if you don't have 143 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 4: a little bit of questioning there. 144 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: You know, we do want to firm flat shoe, but 145 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: be careful. You do need something in between you and 146 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: the floor to protect the bottom of your foot in 147 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: the time of classic pads which can get bruised, especially 148 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: your heel. 149 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 3: Right, and that was going to be my I guess 150 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 3: my next question. So often when we think of just 151 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: our foot, we think of just the underside of our feet, 152 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: but things like, for instance, our ankles are also quite 153 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: important some of them. You know, our ankles are supporting 154 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 3: the movement. And so even with you're saying that, you know, 155 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 3: shoes are quite important. They protect our feet. Shoes, I 156 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 3: think also play that role for our ankles as well, 157 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: to kind of keep them in place, keep them stable, 158 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 3: so you're not kind of rolling them, you're not injuring 159 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 3: them as you do certain movements, particularly in. 160 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: The absolutely stability stability. But yeah, you know, when we 161 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: talk about shoes, I think one of the greatest issues 162 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: about shoes is the trauma they create as well. It 163 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: is so important if you want to be stable and 164 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: you want to protect what we call the whole chain. 165 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: So this is literally from your toes all the way 166 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: up literally to your head. That is the full mechanical chain. 167 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: It's important to make sure that you're fit's correctly analyzed. 168 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: It's going to traumatize. You don't correctly going to be unstable, 169 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: traumatize injuries. Corns are reality. I'm sure a lot of 170 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: ladies struggle trying to make sure that the sheaf it's correctly. 171 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 3: And so even with you know, this idea of fit, 172 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: often you're told when you're buying a shoe to get 173 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: one size up. So if you're a six, you know, 174 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 3: for a running shoe, you're told to get a seven 175 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 3: so that there's a little bit of space a for 176 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 3: your sock and so there's space for your feet. But 177 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 3: it is possible to just have a little bit too 178 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: much space in the foot. So sometimes yes, tight foot 179 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 3: is a challenge, but also you can have the issue 180 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 3: of having a shoe that's just a little bit too big, 181 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 3: and even that can cause injury. 182 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: Talk to us about that. 183 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, she fit is like one of my passion 184 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: projects because I literally find with patients all the time 185 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: about a shoe fit. It's very interesting how people condition 186 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: themselves into a specific and a specific feel of the 187 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: shoe and they're like, no, that's comfortable. This is not great. 188 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: So when you're fitting a shoe, the most important thing is, yes, 189 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: you do need a little bit of space, So the 190 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: length of the shoe is important, but the width of 191 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: the shoe is just as important. You should not be 192 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: bulging over the sideways. Say to my patients, Remember one 193 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: foot is bigger than the other. It's a reality, it's normal. 194 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: So see which one is the larger foot. You put 195 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: that into the shoe and you shove your toe right 196 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 1: into the front of the shoe. You should be able 197 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: to snugly fit a finger in the back if that's 198 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: the case, brilliant. We always fit the larger foot, never 199 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: the smaller foot, because when you're in a tucky or 200 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: running shoe or gym, shoe, whatever. You can always tie 201 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: the laces or slightly thicker sock on the smaller foot. 202 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: But the other important thing is not to bulge over 203 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: the side, and the shoes sole must be as wide 204 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: as the shoe. The sole should not be narrower shoe. 205 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: That's also another important point for stability. You don't want 206 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: to fall off that ball. So if the base or 207 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: the sole of the shoe is as wide as the 208 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: shoe and as your foot from with a length point 209 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: of view, brilliant. It should fit with a snug finger 210 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: space at the back. And not all shoe sizes are 211 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: the same. Different brands have different sized templates. So if 212 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: you went into a New Balance, for example, that's one 213 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: of the widest templates on the market. 214 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 4: If you went into a Nike, it's one of the narrowest. 215 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 4: So it's important to make sure that you are trying 216 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 4: on a few sizes to make sure that you get 217 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 4: the perfect fit. 218 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 3: Lo I must thank you very very much for chatting 219 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 3: to us this morning, and I know it's a super 220 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: early morning your time, so thank you so much for 221 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 3: joining us this morning. 222 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: Such a pleasure, Thanks so much for having me. 223 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,119 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you that's Lauren Brown as a prodigist. 224 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 3: It was for podagers in corporate joining us for our 225 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 3: Fitness conversation this morning. Coming up in our health conversation, 226 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 3: we look at World Kidney Day, that is that was 227 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 3: celebrated this past Thursday on the twelfth of March, and 228 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: we're going to be looking at chronic kidney disease. 229 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 2: What is chronic kidney disease? 230 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 3: What is what are some of the treatment options dialysis transplants, 231 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: but also in South Africa, what are the challenges with 232 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 3: regards to access to care for chronic kidney disease. We'll 233 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 3: be joined by doctor Fundi Layati, our resident GP as always, 234 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 3: but before all of that, time for us to check 235 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: in with your latest Eyewitness new Sport with Anthony to 236 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 3: Shada