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Speaker 1: It's my forty seven. Now it's been two years since

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Speaker 1: we last spoke to our music guest this morning, and

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Speaker 1: now Anika Ko has gone and written the title song

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Speaker 1: to a documentary, not just any documentary, It's Rachel Kalisi's

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Speaker 1: Falling Forward. I'm absolutely thrilled that she joins us on

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Speaker 1: the line this morning. Anika, you gorgeous creature. How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good in yourself.

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Speaker 1: I am very very well. I've been seeing pictures of

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Speaker 1: you all over and I didn't put two and two

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Speaker 1: together until I realized, Okay, this is the Rachel Coalisi documentary.

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Speaker 1: How did this come about? How did you end up

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Speaker 1: writing the title song for the Falling Forward documentary?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm going to try and give you the

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Speaker 2: short story.

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Speaker 1: Now give us a long, long winded version.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Okay. So basically, Rachel and I met from

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Speaker 2: a mutual person and his name is Miguel, and he

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Speaker 2: sort of brought us together to have a meeting because

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Speaker 2: she had spoken to him about the Falling Forward road

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Speaker 2: show and she had told him that she wanted a

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Speaker 2: singer to sing the song Rescue. It was going to

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Speaker 2: be a very special moment for her. And it's a

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Speaker 2: song by Lauren Daegel, and I was like totally keen,

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Speaker 2: you know. And when we went to the meeting my

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Speaker 2: manager Arianne and I, Arianna said, why not actually suggest

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Speaker 2: you writing the song for the a song for the documentary.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, Oh, that's actually a good idea.

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Speaker 2: And so when Rachel and her team came, they loved

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Speaker 2: the idea. And the funny, the funny part about the

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Speaker 2: whole story is that in the beginning of the year,

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Speaker 2: before even yearing anything about the documentary at all, or

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Speaker 2: the road show anything like that, I had started writing

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Speaker 2: a song and in the lyrics of the song, it

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Speaker 2: literally goes falling forward, falling forward the whole time. It

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Speaker 2: was like it was like almost like it was meant

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Speaker 2: to be. That that that pre chorus and that chorus

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Speaker 2: had already been written. It was like it was meant

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Speaker 2: to be. So after that, I quickly sent them a

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Speaker 2: screenshot of the notes where I had started writing the

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Speaker 2: song and literally sent them the dates and everything, so

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Speaker 2: they knew, you know, like I'm not trying to and

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Speaker 2: they were just like in absolute shock, and they were

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Speaker 2: just like, miracles really do happen, and this is clearly

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Speaker 2: meant to be. So yeah, it's been. It's been amazing

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Speaker 2: so far.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it weird how things are so sort of soendipitous

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Speaker 1: like that, and so and so sort of tied tied

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Speaker 1: to things in that way. I just think that is

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Speaker 1: absolutely incredible. I mean that that things. I hear things

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Speaker 1: the way the universe intended it to be. Must have

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Speaker 1: been definitely yeah, crazy. So what is the song about?

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Speaker 1: Like when you when you put pen to paper for

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Speaker 1: you what what were you writing? What were the things

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Speaker 1: that were inspiring you about the song?

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Speaker 2: So initially it was actually about my grant that I

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Speaker 2: passed away a couple of years ago, and she was

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Speaker 2: basically like the everything in my life, Like if I

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Speaker 2: was feeling sad, if I was just feeling a bit off,

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Speaker 2: you know, I knew that I could always go to

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Speaker 2: my grand and then just feel a bit better. I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't even need to explain to her about anything that

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Speaker 2: was going on, you know, she would just make me

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Speaker 2: feel better. And so the song in the song it

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Speaker 2: goes an angel called from Afar. She said, you know

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Speaker 2: who you are if you believe it, it's yours. She

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Speaker 2: told me reach for the stars. And basically, the angel

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Speaker 2: you know, she's tunning me that I've got this. If

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Speaker 2: I'm not believing in myself, she's there rooting for me,

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Speaker 2: She's there cheering me on. And when I pitched the

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Speaker 2: idea to Rachel and then I said, this angel, it

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Speaker 2: was my grand It's my grand for me. It can

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Speaker 2: be God for you, it can be your like a

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Speaker 2: voice in your head that tells you to keep going.

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Speaker 2: But it's it's something or someone that just keeps pushing

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Speaker 2: you when you aren't when you aren't able to push yourself,

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Speaker 2: when you aren't able to you know, keep on going.

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Speaker 2: It's that little voice, that that little piece of something

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Speaker 1: Wow, gosh. For you, when you writing a piece of music,

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Speaker 1: do you get attached to songs in terms of would

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Speaker 1: you write for other people or do you feel almost

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Speaker 2: That's very good question. I feel like I definitely am

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Speaker 2: I'm wanting to do this year. So hopefully I can

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Speaker 2: actually open up that door finally and just let go,

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Speaker 2: because yeah, I am someone that I struggle to let go.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've got songs that I've written before that,

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Speaker 2: you know, I feel it's not really meant for me.

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Speaker 2: It can definitely be given to someone else, but I

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Speaker 2: just can't let go it. It feels like it feels

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Speaker 2: In a way.

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Speaker 1: It's so interesting. I'm always I'm I relate to that,

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Speaker 1: not that I'm a songwriter, but I relate to that heavenly.

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Speaker 1: But I'm always amazed by by singer songwriters who are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: and then I wrote this track for someone else, And

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Speaker 1: I'm like, but how do you how do you know

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Speaker 1: it's for someone else?

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Speaker 2: How can you?

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Speaker 1: How do you give that way? Isn't it interesting how

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Speaker 1: different people have different attachments to things. What is the

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Speaker 1: future looking like for you? And I feel what's coming

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Speaker 1: up after this? Obviously you're doing a lot of promotion

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Speaker 1: for Falling Forward, but what's coming up later in the

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Speaker 1: year for you?

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Speaker 2: Hopefully an overseas show. I'm yeah, it's something that I've

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Speaker 2: been warning for a while and it's been in the

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Speaker 2: talk since last year already. And yeah, there's a few

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Speaker 2: things that have been concerned or were just waiting to

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Speaker 2: hear a few things, so I don't want to say

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Speaker 2: anything or because I really want it to happen and

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Speaker 2: I don't want but yeah, that is the most probably

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Speaker 2: exciting thing that I'm looking forward to. I've also just

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Speaker 2: recently launched a merch line, so that's quite well. Yes,

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Speaker 2: And then in terms of my music, just looking at

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Speaker 2: doing more collaborations this year. I mean, if possible, you know,

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Speaker 2: if the artists that I want to work with agree

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Speaker 2: on it, I would really really love to do more

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Speaker 2: collaborations because I haven't in a while.

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Speaker 1: Who's who's on your dream list for collapse?

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Speaker 2: Sure? Well I would always say that, you know, she

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Speaker 2: Kina would always get the top of my list, but

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Speaker 2: I mean she, I don't know if else, I don't

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Speaker 2: know how our sounds would look together. But Neon dreams

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Speaker 2: a wlany Matthew Moles also since last year has been

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Speaker 2: a big one, and yeah, I can't even think of

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Speaker 2: there is there's a lot more there's also some overseas

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Speaker 2: ones as well.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I'm sure that whatever you do, you're going to

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Speaker 1: be enormously successful. Well, I see you out there, and

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Speaker 1: I see how hard you're working and putting this beautiful

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Speaker 1: music out there for us. Please, will you introduce your

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Speaker 1: latest chat for us?

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Speaker 2: Okay, everybody, my name is Anika Kijano and this is

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Speaker 2: falling forward. My nan loves on the way.

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Speaker 1: I gotta said, try again.

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Speaker 2: It'd be strong for me, my family,