WEBVTT - Car Talk with Ernest Page: Hyundai Tucson 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.040 All right, it is time to talk cars with our 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:06.080 motoring man, Ernest Page. She's from Change Cars dot Co 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:09.600 and also the presenter for all things motoring on Ignition TV. 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:11.720 And he's also standing by to answer some of your 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:14.760 motoring questions. So do get those calls in on two 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.119 one four four six oh five sixty seven, or you 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:20.040 can drop us a voice note. Oh seven two five 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:24.320 six seven one five six seven. We are back this 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:28.120 week with another Hyundai and at this time we're looking 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:30.760 at the Hyundai Tucson and it's good to have you back. 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:34.000 With us, Jay, and fantastic to be back and start. 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:36.839 Were talking about the Handaed Tucson and last week one 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:39.760 of our listeners touched on the point that maybe some 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:42.360 of these cars are getting a little too expensive, and 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:45.120 I think the two Son might be one of those cars. 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:48.120 With that conversation is Daily Daily relevant. 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:50.320 All right, so let's start with what what is it? 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:52.360 What are we? I mean? I know I'm I'm in 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:54.440 that kind of I was going to say, yummy mummy category. 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.480 I'm labeling myself there. I'm labeling myself there. 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:00.600 But I do I do tell to move in this 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.720 kind of suburb southern suburbs, mum circles where this is 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:07.039 a very very popular vehicle. So I know exactly what 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:08.880 we're talking about, but maybe other people don't. 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:09.800 What is it? 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:13.840 So the Hunda Tucson basically was one of those cars 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:17.279 that started the C segment SUV. There was the early 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:19.720 model Tucson and there was the car that came just 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:21.560 before that similar shape and size. 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:24.479 But the Koreans were, I. 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:26.240 Mean, for lack of a better phrase, they were the 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:29.160 Chinese before the Chinese were the Chinese, and the Japanese 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.479 were the Koreans before they were the Koreans. 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:33.759 And you know when when Japan. 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:36.280 First came into the market many many years ago with Deathsuns, 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:42.000 et cetera, they were frowned upon by local manufacturer enthusiasts. 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:44.759 The same thing happened with Honda when they came onto 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.400 the market, but they pioneered that Tucson segments so much 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.440 that now it's one of the busiest segments out there. 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:54.160 You've got Toyota with their four, You've got Massive with 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:56.840 their six five, and then of course you've got the Cherries, 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:59.800 the Tigos, the Havals, et cetera, et cetera. 0:01:59.880 --> 0:02:02.080 Now populating that market big time. 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:05.960 So if you're looking for a relatively large suv that 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:09.079 offers decent amounts of spec and power, and you've got 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:12.120 about five hundred thousand or just over between five hundred 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:14.800 and i'd say eight hundred thousand to spend, then this 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:17.160 is the vehicle that you're looking for because it's got 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.440 lots of comfort features, it's got a diesel engine, which 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:22.960 is really nice, and then of course it's got the 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:26.200 space for the entire family, and that's I think where 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:29.359 the two son fits in. It's a big, comfortable, spacious 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.519 car that's got a diesel engine, which again I'm still 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:36.320 a fan of, but again when it comes to this segment, 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.640 people are very very much price sensitive. 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:42.400 And I've got the top spec Enline model, which is 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:43.280 all wheel drive. 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:45.760 It's got a two liters one hundred and thirty seven 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.919 killer what four hundred and sixteen muti meter diesel engine. 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:53.040 It's got a bow sound system, panoramic roof, adaptive cruise control, 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.160 all of those features that I think a lot of 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:58.720 Chinese manufacturers are now throwing in as just normal nice 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:02.280 to have, but unfortud I think it has put Hyundai 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.520 a little bit on the back foot. As they are 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:09.280 now migrating towards being a more premium offering. And by premium, 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:11.919 we're talking pricing over here. This one that I've got, 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:13.760 which is the N Line, goes for eight hundred and 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:17.440 fifty nine thousand. You do, Yeah, that's a lot, and 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:19.079 you do, but you do get these seven year two 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:22.120 hundred thousand kilometer warranty, You get a five year hundred 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:26.760 and fifty thousand kilometer powertrain warranty, the two year power 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:29.720 train fifty thousand k warranty, and then a service plan 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:33.320 as well for seventy five thousand ks. Now in that 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:37.800 same range, though, there is a petrol version that goes 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:40.200 for five point fifty nine, but that wouldn't be my pick. 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:43.560 There is a diesel option which goes for seven hundred 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:47.960 and nine thousand, which I think is much more satisfactory 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:49.960 pricing if you ask me, because at eight hundred and 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:53.200 fifty nine thousand, you could go for something that's a 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:55.640 lot more premium. You know, you now starting to playing 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:59.240 that million rand sort of budget. Yeah, And when my 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.600 colleague and I was talking about as Brendan Staniforth from 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:06.600 a Ruler media, he mentioned that yes, extra hundred thousand 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:08.880 on that eight fifty nine is a lot of money, 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:10.720 but effectively you're just looking at just over. 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:12.960 Ten percent of the cost of the car. So all 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.040 of a sudden you've got that million rand space. 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:18.119 And if you're looking new and use, there are tons 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:19.640 and tons of good cause that you can get for 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:22.680 that price. So unfortunately, the two song finds itself in 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.560 a in a very sort of sticky situation when it 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:27.000 comes to pricing at the moment. 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:27.720 And then of. 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.760 Course when we talk about the rivals for the TUC songs, 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:34.440 you could you're looking at the as I mentioned before, 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:39.560 the cars like the Cherry Tigo Tigo eight. You could 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:42.159 get the Tigo seven if you wanted to, You could 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:46.039 get the Haval Aged six two liters Ultra only six 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:49.279 hundred and fourteen thousand, and that comes fully fully fully 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.800 loaded with a seven year, two hundred thousand kilometer a 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:54.840 warranty as well. The Tigo pell also diesel the one 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:59.200 point six TGDI for six hundred and nine thousand. So yes, 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:01.960 I I do think that the handout is still a 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:04.359 good God this thing wrong with it, It just finds 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.400 itself in a bit precarious space, specifically in line throm 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.599 I would then rather say go for the one model 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.239 just below that, the two liters diesel. Again, I'm always 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.520 gonna go for the diesel in an suv, and that 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:17.400 everyone goes for seven hundred and nine thoust. 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.159 Yeah, it's listen. I tell you what. 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:23.159 What I can say for Hyundai is that they hold 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:27.400 their price quite well. I've noticed the depreciation on a 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.400 Honda on an suv as I think is pretty good. 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:35.760 But your initial yeah, your initial outmay is is pretty 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:39.200 high on that on that Toucson. Ray Anne has actually 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.440 sent in a message. You mentioned the Haval H six 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:44.520 there is being a direct competitor Ernest and says I'm 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:48.200 looking at buying a Haval H six gt pH e 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.880 V since it's versatile and the consumption is so good. 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:53.800 The Haval states one hundred and eighty kilometers at highway 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.080 speed on full charge. Does this mean if you charge 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:58.600 daily you don't need to use fuel? Are there any 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:01.880 other competitors worth looking at? The speed doesn't interest me 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:04.320 as much as it used to, so not too fust 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:06.240 on the speed since it's basically going to be a 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:07.320 family vehicle. 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:09.200 Funny enough, I. 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:12.000 Saw I saw one of these at the gym yesterday 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:16.240 the H six GT PHGV. I mean listen, I didn't 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:18.200 get to go inside your look under the boyt or anything, 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:20.320 but it's certainly caught my eye. 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:21.280 It's quite meat, isn't it. 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:22.680 It is. 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.600 It's a chunky little monkey, that one. And the thing 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:29.160 about PhD, you're plugging hybrids as they're called, they are 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:31.480 now starting to filter into the market. 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:31.960 Quite a lot. 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:35.160 A Motor's got one, Jacob's got one, Chiliy's got one, 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:40.400 aval BMW Volvo tyotas air Ford one stage was basically 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:42.400 the only one in that size that you could get 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:44.920 the plug in hybrid, But now it's starting to become 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:47.320 more popular. And pov An I been having this conversation 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:50.760 for months about we're not plugging hybrid's going to start 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:54.320 coming to the country and the time is literally right now. Yeah, 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:57.640 every second week or so there's a new plug in 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:01.040 hybrid being launched. Just recently BYD launched their plug in 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.840 hybrid as well. So when it comes to the range 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:07.320 on a plug in hybrids, as questioned a moment ago, 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:11.680 you can do as as for their motive, for example, 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:13.760 one hundred and fifty kilometers. 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:15.520 On pure ev range. 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:18.920 So what that means is that you plug in the car, 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:22.560 you get the car fully charged up overnight. If you're 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.360 going to be getting a car like this, it would 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.600 be would stand you in good stead to have a 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:29.760 charger at home that's the fastest possible charger for your 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.080 plug in hybrid, and then the next day you drive 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:35.480 basically for free. It's not completely free, but it's a 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.160 heck of a lot cheaper than fuel. And I've gone 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:41.040 through that exercise with plug in hybrid cars and that's 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:44.560 exactly what you get. You get an electric car effectively 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:46.920 that can some of them can do between eighteen, one 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:49.560 hundred and twenty kilometers an hour, which means you can 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:52.280 go to town and back in complete silence and use 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:55.520 zero fuel. And that I think is the big big 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:58.360 push at the big big advantage of plug in hybrids 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.480 versus electric cars. You've got the best of both worlds. 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:04.120 I think, specifically in South Africa, plug in hybrid to 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:05.239 make a lot of sense. 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:07.560 Electricity. I know it's expensive, but. 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:10.320 Compared to fuel, it's quite cost effective. And if you 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:13.200 cannot have to pay fuel for your daily commute every 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:14.480 day to work, why not. 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:18.920 I'll tell you what I drove the UH No, it wasn't. 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:20.880 It was a fully it was a fully electric vehicle. 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:26.720 It was a Volvo. Oh gosh X something I can't rememize. Yes, yes, exactly. 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:29.000 And it was yet beautiful. 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.440 Oh just my kids are they're so small, but there's 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:33.679 they were still talking about mummy, when can we have 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.080 the Google car? They call it the Google cars because 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.120 we could we could talk to Google in that car. 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:39.280 They thought it was fantastic. 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:40.080 But I. 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:43.839 I love the idea of being able to kind of 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.240 venture into the electric space, but one has to first 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:51.959 get over range anxiety. I was driving around in my 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:54.440 little neck of the woods, I mean, and I couldn't relax. 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:54.960 I couldn't. 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:57.520 Every five minutes I had to kind of put there's 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:01.719 an electric vehicle place on on Imamharun And I was 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:03.920 there every five minutes because I couldn't get over the 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.560 range anxiety, which I'm sure comes as you get more 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:07.760 and more use to the car. 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:09.959 One hundred percent. 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:13.160 I drove an electric car just yesterday and my passenger 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:14.760 was supposed to drop me off at the airport and 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:18.080 then go back and I was what he calmed down, bro, 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.800 But he was anxious and how much colom how many 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:21.760 comments you've got left. 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.000 And I remember that that was my experience at the 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:24.640 beginning as well. 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.079 Having said that if you own the car, and I 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.040 really do hope that both of us get to own 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:34.679 e X ninety me lovely that when you have the charge, 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:36.440 and that's why I mentioned earlier, the charge at home 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:40.480 changes the entire dynamic. It makes that range anxiety go 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:42.480 away because all you have to do is get home, 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:46.360 and with a normal car with petrol diesel, you don't 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:47.240 have that problem. 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:48.200 You can stop anywhere. 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.480 It takes you ten minutes and then you've got enough 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:52.319 time to get a sparkling water and a chocolate in 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:54.839 the shop and off you go. Whereas when you're charging 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:57.040 at a charging station, you've got to organize. I've got 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:58.360 to drop the car, of am I going to go 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:00.240 to the coffee shop, I'm going to go shopping. But 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:02.360 if you can charge at home, then all of those 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:05.000 problems go away, and then so does the range anxiety. 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:06.000 I think for the most part. 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.839 Somebody saying how do you feel about the jaiqu J 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:13.559 seven compared to the Chinese cars like Haval that you've 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:16.240 been chatting about, But Jaiku's also a Chinese brand isn't it. 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:17.600 Yeah. 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:21.640 Indeed, I haven't spent as much time with them, although 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.840 I did go to an event that they had recently. 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.920 And what I do like about jaku Jaiku is that 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:33.840 they are starting to start owners clubs and they're starting 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.920 to they're actually an event for owners of the brand 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:38.920 to come through as a music festival, which is quite 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.320 strange but interesting. And what they did they was start 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:44.920 an owner's club and I spoke to a few owners 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:48.600 of the vehicle and they experience so far, seemingly from 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:50.040 the people that I spoke to at this event, that 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:51.080 has been very good. 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:53.720 The cars are very well spected. 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.200 The people that are running at the management team are 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.520 trying to cover all their bases to make sure they're 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:01.760 parts of ale, to make sure that the communication with 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:05.920 the public is transparent and consistent, and you know, I 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:08.000 think that that goes a long way. When you're trying 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:09.959 to establish a new brand in a country, it's not 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:12.360 just about the cars, about the off cells and how 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:15.120 you look after your clients. So Jacob, I think there's 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:16.720 doing good things when it comes to off the cells 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:20.040 and when it comes to building a community around their brand. 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.480 So let's see how they do and the J seven. 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:26.200 It's a beautiful, beautiful car. They launched it in twenty 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:31.000 twenty four, and again the design is just I really 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.480 do quite like the designer's call. I don't personally have 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:35.839 that much experience with it, but it does come with 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.920 a one point six liter turboforce, a little petrol engine, 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:42.640 seven speed your clutch, and definitely at least I think 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:43.600 worth a test drive. 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.040 Yeah, I was going to say, I'm fascinated to get 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:48.560 behind the wheel of one of these. I love how 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:50.120 it looks, but it's not just about that, is it. 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:51.280 What is it like to drive? 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:52.719 Has it got a bit of meat behind it? 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:56.120 Ernest so, as I said, I've had that much experience 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:59.080 with it. But when it comes to the engine, specifically 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.200 of the Chinese brand, and a lot of them are 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:04.559 running basically the same engines. Now have a pool of 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:06.640 engines that they choose from one point five turber, one 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.120 point six turbo two D to turbo, so a lot 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:11.960 of them aren't necessarily making their own engines, and that's 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:14.280 one of the reasons you're getting the fuel consumption that 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:18.760 is generally above average. Having said that, they are starting 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.199 to make V eights, the Chinese are now where the 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:23.800 Europeans are saying, you know what, we don't want to 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.920 focus on diesel anymore, the Chinese are saying, well, we 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:28.720 kind of do want to focus on diesel because one 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:31.160 of our key markets is going to be Africa, and 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.120 I think Africa is going to stay a diesel market 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.400 for a long long time. So I think in the 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.120 future we are going to be getting a lot more 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:38.640 cost effective Chinese cars. 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.640 And that's the biggest scribe. And again every generation of 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:43.640 these cars is just getting better and better. 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:46.080 It's an exciting time for the consumer when it comes 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:48.800 to costing of vehicles because we've been moaning a South 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:50.360 Africans for a long long time that. 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:54.240 Vehicle pricing is too expensive. Pricing is coming down. 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.360 The J seven starts at about five point forty nine, 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:01.480 which is quite competitive. Having said, having said so that 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:04.800 it does affect our local market, it does affect our 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:08.319 local manufacturer, and it does affect local job markets as well. 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:11.000 So it's a it's a chicky one. It's a chicky one. 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:13.439 If you're just joining us this afternoon, good to have 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:14.680 you with us. Welcome. 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:18.439 We are chatting with Ernest Page and it is our 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:22.600 cast segment on launch Sarah has asked a question, says 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:25.800 hianis what do you think of a twenty twenty four Billino. 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.800 Suzuki Bilino with twenty five thousand k's on the clock. 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:32.360 Suzuki Billino is one of my favorite when it comes 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:35.439 to small cars. I've spoken about this before, is that 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.439 the twenty twenty four model should be the facelifted one, 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:39.680 so that'll be. 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:41.839 The later model. Definitely can't go wrong with that. 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:45.320 Suzuki have carved a niche for themselves where they're making 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.120 cars that are cost effective, but you get what you 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.640 see on the tin. It's exactly what you get. There 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:53.439 no surprises with the Bileno. Yes, it's been around for 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:55.560 a little bit of a while, but it does still 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.680 look finished, simply because the Yota has also released a Starlet, 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.480 which is basically the car. So I don't think you 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:03.520 can go wrong with the Bileno. If you're looking for 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.760 a good old fashioned hatchback in the old sort of way, 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.959 yes you've got the Billina. But you remember there is 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.600 a cross as well, So if you're looking for something 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.240 that's a bit higher up, that might have a little 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.800 bit more chunky sort of suv feel to it, then 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.160 you've got the Suzuki Throncs. But if you want a 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:23.880 good old fashioned hatchbag with decent power, good feud economy 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:27.320 one point five lit the engine and just it's meat 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:29.760 and potatoes kind of car, I really do like the Bileina. 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.920 Someone else saying, or John says that how long do 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.640 these electric vehicle batteries last? And do they need to 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:39.640 be replaced at some point? And what would that cost? 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:41.720 That is a great question, John, thanks for that. 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:43.440 So that is. 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:47.000 Exactly the problem that electric cars have at the moment 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.440 is that there's a usually there's a warranty of about 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.880 seven years on the battery. Now that is coincidentally how 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:59.120 long those batteries start to before they deteriorate. And when 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:01.240 it comes to the battery of these cause that it 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.320 is going to be expensive. It is going to be 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.960 very expensive if it's an out of warranty repair. So 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:09.440 that again is the trade off when it comes to 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:14.840 plug in hybrids. Now, Toyota, the best probably the best 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:18.040 case to look at would be too to pres because 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:21.560 that's a fully electric sort of car and at least 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:22.200 the hybrid car. 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:24.320 And you can look at something like that and see 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.080 for yourself, what will it costs to replace. 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:27.960 But I do know that when it comes time to 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:31.560 replace batteries on something like a hybrid cars, something like 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:34.120 an electric car, it is one hundred percent going to 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.160 cost a lot of money. I have spoken to some mechanics, 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:41.240 and certain mechanics are now starting to focus on that market. 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.560 And what that would hopefully mean is that in five 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:46.440 ten years time, when a lot of this cause oh 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:49.320 out of warranty, there will be off the market parts available. 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:52.280 At this stage, the battery technology is still quite expensive, 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:55.200 so you are looking to pay quite a substantial amount. 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:57.400 I can't say exactly what that amount is, but it's 0:15:57.480 --> 0:15:59.160 not going to be a cheap repay if the car 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:01.840 is out of water d So be very aware that 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.920 when you buy anything with the plug in hybrid system 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:08.480 or battery system, what the warranty is, how that wardity works. 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:11.040 Speak to the manufacturer, find out what you can look 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:12.760 at paying to replace those parts. 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.880 I'm really excited, but yeah, great question. I'm really excited 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:19.360 by the by the increase in electric vehicles and what 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:21.840 that means. And yeah, hopefully there will come a point soon. 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:24.280 As you say, Ernest, well you and are we cruising 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:29.840 around in our highly expensive electric vehicles and doing. 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:30.440 Our bit, for doing our bit for the environment. 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:32.760 Thanks very much, indeed, eis We're going to have to 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:35.040 leave it there, but appreciate your time. Ernest is back 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:38.440 with this next week, of course, and you can get 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:40.000 your questions into him. 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.320 You can keep sending them there if you like. We 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:45.400 can always forward them on to next week.