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Speaker 1: This is your show, and has promised it's eleven thirty

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Speaker 1: on the button, which means we have to bring in

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Speaker 1: somebody who I am very excited to chat about.

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Speaker 2: It's been a long time.

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Speaker 1: I look at this person's journey and I think it

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Speaker 1: has been like a fantasy, Like was it actually real?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I thought that, you know, there'd be one song and

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Speaker 1: that'll be that that person's like one last chance. But

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Speaker 1: then I looked to the books and I thought, like,

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Speaker 1: tell me how he can be so talented?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You might know you're telling me slow down the.

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Speaker 2: Time some of the songs.

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Speaker 1: Right when I'm doing some gigs away from home, I

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Speaker 1: feel homesick without.

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Speaker 3: Him, your thousand miles.

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Speaker 1: Away from should be watching this now. I'm actually feeling

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Speaker 1: a rate in my face.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You want me this a high team, know you want

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Speaker 1: me to try and oh well it's been ro reggae.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. That was the

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Speaker 3: best intro ever.

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Speaker 4: Listen, you're gonna struggle when the album comes out, and

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Speaker 4: it's just going to be this ten tracks that you're

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Speaker 1: No, but I'd like to do it, by the way,

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Speaker 1: so I know there's an album and then you've been

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Speaker 1: cooking on the album, Ben Rodriguez, but when you drop

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Speaker 1: your album, I love doing album drops on the show

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Speaker 1: because I think people need to understand the journey of

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Speaker 1: why these songs were picked and you can do that.

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Speaker 1: So please depencil me in album drop, Carl.

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Speaker 4: Actually, I'm kind of throwing you in the spot out,

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Speaker 4: but I actually wanted you to be not only just

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Speaker 4: because it's based on this whole little storyline of the

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Speaker 4: because I think who else can do a nice American

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that's my pitch to you.

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Speaker 4: You cannot say no on LAB Radio, so I thought

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Speaker 4: that's the one way I'll trap you.

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Speaker 1: Wow, it's so cool that Ben Rodriguez on the stage

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Speaker 1: and you can say that this album is gonna be

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Speaker 1: something that I believe is gonna be life changing. Have

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Speaker 1: you seen the movie Interstellar. It's gonna be like that,

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Speaker 1: except a whole lot more. I'm gonna say, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be like a black hole of talent. It's gonna suck

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be so cool.

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Speaker 1: So, Ben Rodriguez, this album is gonna be absolutely outstanding.

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Speaker 2: All right, So it's gonna be cool. Let's go. Is

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Speaker 2: that what I say? Is that what you were looking for?

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Speaker 4: We're gonna get a little bit more Nashville vibe, but

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Speaker 4: like all the more country albums is a little the country.

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Speaker 3: But that was like, that was beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Did you just spoiler your album? You say it's gonna

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Speaker 3: You just only ever spoils stuff on the show.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a problem.

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Speaker 4: It's like every time i'm yeah, I get a call

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm sorry. Carl just takes it out of.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, says one of those things I like to

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Speaker 2: is very cool to have you. That's what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: Is you know, it's country, and it's it's you know

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Speaker 2: Thank you. That's exactly what got you back, got you back.

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Speaker 2: The audition is done, thank you, I got the gig.

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Speaker 3: Everyone Rano flows for.

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Speaker 1: Yes, being Rodriguez, I need to just a little catch

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Speaker 4: It has been a few months of just in studio,

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Speaker 3: By June by June's released June.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying it now so that I don't pull back

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Speaker 1: I don't want you to pressure on yourself. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: We'll be understanding.

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Speaker 4: Okay, And that's the whole thing is. I just want

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Speaker 4: And I'm trying my best to make it as good

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is fantastic. I mean, you just dropped Country,

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Speaker 4: It's a little bit of a dangerous territory. I mean

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Speaker 4: it's not something I've ever done before. I don't know

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Speaker 1: And yeah, okay, I want to give you a little

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Speaker 2: It's a motive.

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Speaker 1: It is applicable to all scenarios and as South Africans

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Speaker 2: Yes, don't back down.

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Speaker 3: Even more country please do it.

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Speaker 2: Dude, it's a matter of time.

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Speaker 4: I'm slowly manifesting it in, you know, I gotta get

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I wanted the album to tell this

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Speaker 1: I would like to know that you put it down there, like,

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Speaker 4: There is no fallback. There was a first plan was

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Speaker 4: But if the music doesn't work out, now there is

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Speaker 1: And the thing about a fallback is, I mean, the

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Speaker 1: that brings me to this song. Oh yeah, we go,

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Speaker 1: Hazel Eyes, great Injurer, You're most welcome. I'm here all

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Speaker 1: So Hazel Eyes. I'm loving what this song is giving.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, my brother. You you look happy, you, I

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Speaker 4: This is it Hazel Eyes. As much as I'm very

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Speaker 4: Note it's absolutely terrible, like of me coming up with

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Speaker 3: Note.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well you'll hear now how much of song changes

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Speaker 3: And this is what we got.

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Speaker 2: All right, bring it up to mic, let's go and

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Speaker 3: Turn to boom boom.

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Speaker 4: As you can see, you have to understand the vision

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Speaker 1: I feel like more artists need to I want to.

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Speaker 4: Like when I hear these finished works of these huge artists,

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Speaker 1: It starts with the voice note hey, and then it

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Speaker 4: End on the KFM Top forty that's where that's where

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Speaker 2: Like what the hell?

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Speaker 3: You should be a director?

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Speaker 1: I just okay, you know what, it's actually your music.

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Speaker 3: I'll listen to it properly.

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Speaker 2: Yea, no, no, no, no, not you.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying the people that should be directed. But I

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Speaker 1: You said, you've actually put together something which is is

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Speaker 2: I just love it, man.

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Speaker 1: Like I have a visual thinker, so yes, I work

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Speaker 3: This, so they ca that's beautiful. It's time I need

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna call you and got your songs that you

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Speaker 2: I got you, I got you back, I got you

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Speaker 2: with no more.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the album out in June July.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that to kind of giving you a buffer.

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Speaker 1: But you you've been honestly, I'm super proud of you

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Speaker 2: This journey's been cool.

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Speaker 1: And the great thing is you've never said, oh I'm

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Speaker 1: and that is actually the success, my friend, is that

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Carl. It's always a pleasure being here.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me anytime. Man, this

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Speaker 1: If you want to go stream it, stream it now

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Speaker 1: Top forty.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm giving you this promise. We have to do it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I made you the promise of you the MCS.

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Speaker 4: I guess now you've made me the promise.

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Speaker 2: Get it back.

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Speaker 3: We're doing it.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be so good.

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Speaker 1: Ben Rodriguez, Hazel eyes out now, Okay, before I let

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Speaker 1: you go, man, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 2: Man, your Shawn Mende's voice.

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Speaker 1: Can you not do like a KFM Top forty Shawn

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, but it's fine. You can do it.

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Speaker 2: Just I know you can do a freestyle. I believe

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Speaker 3: This is the Kffantafy