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Speaker 1: Views and news with Clarence Ford. Share your perspective only bad.

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Speaker 1: He says, it's not Robin Old. It's Robin Old. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's not old, it's old.

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Speaker 2: Opinions divided.

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Speaker 1: Clarence, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: You know. When I travel, I've did a lot of

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Speaker 2: travel the last twenty years to through West Africa, and

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Speaker 2: whenever I would speak to people, that's all, and they

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Speaker 2: couldn't eventually would just end up being mister Robin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I like being mister Robin.

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Speaker 3: It's good.

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Speaker 4: Listen, man, it's great to have you back. And I

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Speaker 4: think for those people who don't know that I might

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Speaker 4: don't know. If you were around in the eighties, you'll remember.

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Speaker 4: There's all of women, Baby You've Been Good to Me.

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Speaker 4: That was produced by Kevin Shirley. Kevin later worked with

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Speaker 4: Iron Maiden and led Zeppelin. I think that just talks

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Speaker 4: to the pedigree from the eighties already.

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Speaker 2: Well, his his first album was my first album. So

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Speaker 2: we started off together.

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Speaker 4: There we go, There we Go, and and there's some

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Speaker 4: Hendrix in your music. There's some Celtic kind of sounds,

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Speaker 4: there's Muskandi, there's my tanga. That's a mixed bag for

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Speaker 4: a Scottish man born in Boswana and I was African.

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Speaker 5: That's true.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Maskandi cheers me up. It's one of the

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Speaker 2: few music forms that actually cheers me up and has

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Speaker 2: me dancing in the kitchen. Although no one will ever

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Speaker 2: see it. It's a it's my Scott's background.

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Speaker 1: I think, Robin, you're you're a festival just by yourself.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you, I mean, but we've got we've got

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Speaker 2: a lot coming up on the Social Festival that's on

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Speaker 2: the first and second of May.

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Speaker 4: I know that, but I think it is going to

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Speaker 4: be sacrilege not to Yeah, you sing just a little

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Speaker 4: bit before we talk with twelve festival.

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Speaker 1: Well, we brought your guitar a long, so I don't

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Speaker 1: thing to cajole you into.

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Speaker 2: I just just think, you know, Claris probably wouldn't mind

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Speaker 2: if I played a tune.

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Speaker 1: Or of course I can the all day and listen

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 6: What should we played?

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Speaker 2: My old my old eighties run still some memories which

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Speaker 2: got me into Scope magazine.

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Speaker 5: Big moon fell off the sky and need light to

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Speaker 5: see by? Is your face?

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Speaker 7: I know so well? Is your church?

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Speaker 3: I can always tell.

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Speaker 6: So many people looking.

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Speaker 3: And so many turn away.

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Speaker 6: Maybe they are for something better, But will you stay?

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Speaker 3: You are run of women to me? There is something

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Speaker 3: of you. Never girl, I see you are run of

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Speaker 3: woman to me.

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Speaker 7: I know I have made just said, I admit there,

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Speaker 7: I haven't bed and God.

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Speaker 6: That takes some time to claim more and lose mine.

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Speaker 6: I know I've taken chances. Think it's something else of

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Speaker 6: someone you always turns out illusion.

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Speaker 7: I can get it from you. You all love woman

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Speaker 7: to me, there is something with you. Every girl, glassy,

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Speaker 7: you are all of woman to me, and you all

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Speaker 7: love and you love me. There is something on me,

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Speaker 7: every girl, glassy, you roll.

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Speaker 8: A woman to me, that's some memories.

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Speaker 4: And I would be introducing that song because my life

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Speaker 4: before came to talk was music radio and throughout the nineties,

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Speaker 4: I would play that song and yeah, I'm front of

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Speaker 4: me in the studio again. I'm sure it's triggered some memories.

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Speaker 4: Let's take a listen, there's a voice note. It's all

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Speaker 4: coming through Robin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Twenty albums later, the evolution complete.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Still sliding out.

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Speaker 3: That's like your still things.

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Speaker 4: I want to do the harmonicustal part of the new

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Speaker 4: album ever Love and Wind.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there is not not as much. Ever, Loving Wind

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Speaker 2: is sort of a bit more layered from I use

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Speaker 2: that word. It's kind of got a bit more counterpoint

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Speaker 2: and harmony that sort of. I think it's a bit

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Speaker 2: more of a complex album. And it takes a few goes,

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Speaker 2: as I tell people that it takes if you go

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Speaker 2: to get in. But it's been going very well, and

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Speaker 2: I've been enjoying recordings cover songs other South African artists lately.

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Speaker 2: You know, we did Johnny Cause the Chemist, which which

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Speaker 2: which went very well. People like that from Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: I'm doing actually a Johnny Cleig song, I Call Your Name,

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Speaker 2: a ballad version of that tune. Johnny does it in

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Speaker 2: quite a chirpy kind of tamper way, and I've done

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Speaker 2: a sort of Morbalady kind of ambient version of it.

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Speaker 2: And I was just recorded a song by my good

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Speaker 2: friend mister Bill Knight, who's one of our folk legends,

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Speaker 2: and he's going to be playing at the at the

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Speaker 2: Sarsa Festival as well. He's got a song called who

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Speaker 2: Are the Africans, which I find very interesting because he

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Speaker 2: wrote it in a in a trench and Angola some

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Speaker 2: some fifty years ago, and it's just I just love

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Speaker 2: the song, so I'm go doing that.

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Speaker 1: That's a literal trench in Angola.

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Speaker 4: Yes, fifty years ago comes in literal trenches in our

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Speaker 4: in our history. We're going to talk about the south

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Speaker 4: Shore Music Festival and it goes down Friday May the

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Speaker 4: first and Saturday May the second at the mass Theater

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Speaker 4: in Musemberg, and it's a collaboration between Shorelines Songs and

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Speaker 4: the Cottage Club, focusing on local musicians and cultural custodians.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna ask Robin what that means. There's a voice

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Speaker 4: note in first, let's take a listen.

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Speaker 9: Religion. Yes, during that music on the radio now takes

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Speaker 9: me back to our eighties festivals and very nice, very

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Speaker 9: nice hearing it.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, it just does trigger memories of my young days

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Speaker 4: listening to the radio as kid, as a university student,

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Speaker 4: and Robin.

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Speaker 1: Old was there.

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Speaker 4: Your festival features fourteen bands and solo artists two nights.

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Speaker 1: That's exciting.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I mean it's just it's quite an undertaking.

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Speaker 2: You know, Shoreline Songs and Cottage Club have been you know,

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Speaker 2: for years working on a genre that's kind of been

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Speaker 2: under under siege, and more recently with you know AI

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Speaker 2: and you know particularly dance forms. I mean, Cape Town

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Speaker 2: has got a very big dance music scene, and out

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Speaker 2: sort of been pushed more towards the south of the Peninsula,

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Speaker 2: which is the singer songwriter kind of bunch. And what

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Speaker 2: we find is that singer songwriter energies, you know, they're

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Speaker 2: not necessarily mainstream, but they provide a backburn of a

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Speaker 2: lot of the industry. You know, we're all cheering, we're playing.

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Speaker 2: It's usually one or two people, you know, kind of

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Speaker 2: it's something that while it mountain a go very mainstream,

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Speaker 2: is also very hard to get to get rid of

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Speaker 2: reliant on big structures to keep it going. So it's

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Speaker 2: very much a you know, you get in front of

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Speaker 2: often quite small groups of people and play music and

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Speaker 2: it seems to be, you know, just a vibe and

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Speaker 2: growing actually out out our way. So there's a bunch

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Speaker 2: of bands on who have been playing all the various

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Speaker 2: roots forms. We've got mel Malish from from Cormicky, who's

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Speaker 2: a few mon singer songwriter, the Rosie Bruce Band. Rosy's

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Speaker 2: got a hell of a musical pedigree with their dad

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Speaker 2: being Cameron Bruce. Glenn Walter and the Porch Lights. I'm

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Speaker 2: saying Glenn Walter here be arguing about surnames. I don't

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Speaker 2: think he's a Glenn Walter are here by name. It's

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Speaker 2: probably Glenn Walter and the Porch Lights. And he does

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Speaker 2: a lot of Americana stuff. Jenny James and Neil Harvey,

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Speaker 2: who play have been playing folk music for many, many

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Speaker 2: years in the Cape. Nick Turner, John Ellis, Dave Stock,

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Speaker 2: Dax Butler, Jamie Jupiter, Alec Griffiths's the young up and

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Speaker 2: coming gunslinger on on the guitar. So there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of there's a lot of acts on and over two nights,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, we're looking forward to maybe it can be

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Speaker 2: something that can they can grow.

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Speaker 1: I have no doubt.

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Speaker 4: And I took the Mask Theater because the first thing

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Speaker 4: you think it's on the beach, You're like, okay, we're

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Speaker 4: getting into winter.

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Speaker 2: You kinda there's the reason why there isn't an international festival.

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Speaker 1: In May on the beach. Absolutely there's another voice, iriting,

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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 10: I remember Robin Old when I was fourteen or so,

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Speaker 10: nineteen eighty four eighty five at the Concert in the Park,

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Speaker 10: Massive concert in Joe burg Ellis Park, and me and

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Speaker 10: my friend Jackie were in the audience at the front

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Speaker 10: screaming at Robin Old, take off your clothes.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm sure you had lots of such kind of

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Speaker 4: groupies in your life.

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Speaker 1: Well, now she tells me, did you take off your clothes?

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Speaker 1: Did you know?

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Speaker 2: I used to? I used to get kind of I

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Speaker 2: had a scanty T shirt that I used to wear,

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Speaker 2: which gets remarked on quite a lot. But now a

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Speaker 4: And that's why it plays in me. It's kind of

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Speaker 4: called as well Anger's Raids. We read used to get

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Speaker 4: Robin to played Roderbots High School back in nineteen eighty five.

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Speaker 4: So the South Shore Festival, it sounds as if it's

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Speaker 4: kind of intimate. It's described as a gathering of cultural custodians,

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Speaker 4: and it makes sense. There's so much creative, creative stuff

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's an opportunity to try and put because

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Speaker 2: the Cottage Club has it is quite a small, intimate venue,

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Speaker 2: and we were talking about trying to get or everybody

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Speaker 2: a couple of nights and have a sort of a

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Speaker 2: festival and make something bigger of it. So that's the idea.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the mask is not huge. It's kind of

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Speaker 2: like one hundred and seventy seater, so we thought it's

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Speaker 2: not too ambitious, but still it's hard to get people

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Speaker 2: to live music, especially this kind of live music. So

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Speaker 2: that's kind of kind of how it's grown. And you know,

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Speaker 2: we're at optimistic and further down the road, maybe we

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Speaker 2: play and broaden the open a little bit, you know,

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Speaker 2: Funny Clarence. You know you're talking toad Women now about

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Speaker 2: the park. It's something that would I would comment to say, again,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of weird.

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Speaker 1: Back then.

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Speaker 2: I remember playing with the Soul Brothers. I was on

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Speaker 2: just just on the same day as them and met

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Speaker 2: them backstage. And you know, back then we played green

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Speaker 2: Point Stadium, we played with the Rockets, Pacific Express. There

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Speaker 2: was a lot more diversity, if I must say, in

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Speaker 2: back then for some weird reason, maybe because we were

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Speaker 2: all kind of fighting the same thing. Now it seems

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Speaker 2: to be even with English African stuff, it's more comp compartmentalized.

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Speaker 2: And that's just something that I remark on with people.

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Speaker 2: You know, back then we played huge shows and with

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Speaker 2: a with a big mix up, and I think that's

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Speaker 2: something that we need to look at.

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Speaker 4: So we kindle absolutely find that that offering that just yeah,

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Speaker 4: brings us all together. Is that sixty four to cast

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Speaker 4: this little part? Is that still your weapon of choice?

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Speaker 2: A bit of a saw point there, Clar's I'm afraid

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Speaker 2: that it got lost along the way. I have a

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Speaker 1: But what was it about that? Because it went with

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Speaker 1: you for decades? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well I had it for years. I mean I had

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Speaker 2: but I was I sold it as one does. And

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Speaker 2: I also, you know, it's I've actually got a poem

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Speaker 2: and it's for all the guys who lost the guitars

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Speaker 2: that they had, all those vintage It's a bit like

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Speaker 2: it was because you don't get them back, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and con'try kindle that sound as well with another one.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, it is a little bit whether I

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Speaker 2: could do a Blindfeld test between my old sixty four

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Speaker 2: is a little bit.

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Speaker 1: There's an emotional attachment.

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Speaker 2: That's an emotional attachment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, we want to go out with a song.

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Speaker 4: So just again, where do we get our tickets for

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Speaker 4: the south Shore Music Festival.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's on quick Social official on cricket and there

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Speaker 2: will be links up on all the various communicators. Derrick

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Speaker 2: Craig who's a Shoreline Songs associate, Anthony, just myself, Bill

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Speaker 2: sharing all the stuff. But basically, go to.

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Speaker 4: Cricket, go to cricket and yeah, maybe you'll find some

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Speaker 4: more information online. But for now that sounds like something

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Speaker 4: the necessary planning.

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Speaker 1: It is happening on the.

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Speaker 4: First of second and may go and check it out

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Speaker 4: the south Shore Music Fest. Gotta a rap it there, Robin,

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Speaker 4: good to see you again. Are we going out with

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Speaker 4: a song? Tell us more about it?

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Speaker 2: Well, are we going out with love Kills?

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Speaker 1: Or I think so? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Love Kills was a song that actually won the som

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Speaker 2: Award before there was a soo with the very first

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Speaker 2: year it happens, and it's been sitting, it's never been

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Speaker 2: out again that album and it's very much a Joe

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Speaker 2: but Rick return.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you can't wait for the first of

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Speaker 4: a Robin Old performing at the Muscle Festival tomorrow in Scarborough,

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Speaker 4: I tell you that Deep South is active creatively,