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Speaker 1: I love a true crime documentary. Netflix does them very

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Speaker 1: very well, and there's a new one. It's called Trust

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Speaker 1: Me The False Prophet.

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Speaker 2: Predators don't come in dressed with their horns and their cape.

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Speaker 2: They come in dressed in their suit. Pie, are you

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Speaker 2: a crofat? I would be a liar if I said

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Speaker 2: I wasn't.

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Speaker 3: In the aftermath of war and jess incarceration, the FLDS

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Speaker 3: has really been praying and fragmented. Sam Bateman saw himself

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Speaker 3: being an heir apparent to Orange Jests, were.

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Speaker 2: Following a false prophet and he's leading us right to hell.

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Speaker 4: When we moved to this town, we thought, well, maybe

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Speaker 4: we could do a documentary of these FLDS people because

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Speaker 4: they're so stigmatized, and that's how we met Sam. Seeing

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Speaker 4: Sam with all these females is concerning, but there were

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Speaker 4: rumors that he was married to the children.

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Speaker 2: Oh. I got an idea.

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Speaker 4: If they let us film spend more time with them

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Speaker 4: and developed a relationship with them, maybe we would see

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Speaker 4: what was really going on. Not very often you have

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Speaker 4: somebody wanting to be recorded all of the time, especially

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Speaker 4: talking about some of the heinous crimes that he was committing.

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Speaker 1: H Trust Me The false Prophet on Netflix.

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Speaker 5: Hella Gail.

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Speaker 1: Morning Morning.

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Speaker 5: You like this first?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, love a true crime, Docky, Love a true crime

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Speaker 1: Docky the worst, the better or the worst the subjects

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Speaker 1: the better. What are we dealing with here?

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Speaker 5: Right, so you don't have to know the background. But

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Speaker 5: way back in twenty eleven, Warren Jeffs, who ran the

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Speaker 5: polygamous sect. He's a sociopathic, predator and pedophile. He was

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Speaker 5: arrested and he's in jail. And this picks up the

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Speaker 5: story of how the community, although they're taken his profit away,

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Speaker 5: they were still they still believed that Warren Jeffs was

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Speaker 5: their profit and they were sort of rudderless. And along

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Speaker 5: comes another sociopath, predator, pedophile and ton artist, this guy Samuel,

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Speaker 5: and he comes along and he begins to cleverly convince

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Speaker 5: a trio of the men in the community that he is,

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Speaker 5: in fact the voice of Warren Jeffs from jail, and

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Speaker 5: so he begins this confidence trick. Ultimately, he's got twenty wives,

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Speaker 5: ten of which were underage. The youngerest was nine. But

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Speaker 5: what's interesting about this is that it's from the point

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Speaker 5: of view of this woman Christine Marie and she's a

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Speaker 5: cult specialist who actually had suffered herself under a cult leader.

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Speaker 5: And she and her husband, who's a documentary filmmaker, moved

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Speaker 5: to this town where Warren, you know, near where Warren

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Speaker 5: Jeffs had his community in twenty fifteen, and they they thought,

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Speaker 5: oh well, they'll try and sort of support the community.

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Speaker 5: She's quite it's quite incredible because most of this four

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Speaker 5: part documentary, in fact, almost all of it, except for

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Speaker 5: some police cam footage, is their primary video source, like

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Speaker 5: the raw footage that they took, because this guy's ego

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Speaker 5: was so large that he actually eventually allowed them to

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Speaker 5: almost film his daily life. I mean, at one point,

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Speaker 5: he's driving around in Bentley's around this sort of desert

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Speaker 5: town at the base of some mountains in Arizona. It's

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Speaker 5: the it's the most bizarre show and you can't look away.

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Speaker 5: And she, this woman, Christina Ree, builds up this trust

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Speaker 5: relationship with the wives with him. They're filming everything, and

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Speaker 5: she's trying to gather evidence because obviously there's serious abuse

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Speaker 5: going on and molestation of the children. She just can't

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Speaker 5: prove it, and she goes to the police, and it's

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Speaker 5: just the story of how they try and unravel this

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Speaker 5: incredibly tight knit, completely brainwashed, controlled community of this they

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Speaker 5: call the Samulites, And it's actually completely compelling all together.

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Speaker 5: It's four episodes, three hours and fifteen minutes altogether. Now

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Speaker 5: it flew by because it was absolutely and back in

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty two, there's another one of these called Keep Sweet,

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Speaker 5: Pray and Obey, which is the story of the rise

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Speaker 5: of Warren Jeffs in this community as well. So if

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Speaker 5: you haven't seen that one, it's well worth looking back.

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Speaker 5: And then the other thing is, if you haven't the

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Speaker 5: thing that got me onto this sort of track in

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Speaker 5: the first place is a book that was published in

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Speaker 5: two thousand and seven by Karn Jessop, who was married

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Speaker 5: to one of the high bishops in Warren Jeffs's church,

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Speaker 5: and she managed to escape with her eight children from

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Speaker 5: the sect. If you've never read the book, it is

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Speaker 5: absolutely fascinated about how she planned her escape and how

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Speaker 5: she managed to pull it off and how they came

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Speaker 5: for her and her children. But anyway, so this is

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Speaker 5: sort of it's almost like a continuation of that story

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Speaker 5: that just because you take away the leader doesn't mean

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Speaker 5: that another predator isn't going to step into the void

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Speaker 5: where people are very, very vulnerable to believing things that

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Speaker 5: are you know, predatory religion is one of the most

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Speaker 5: dangerous things in the world, and this documentary shows you why.

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Speaker 5: And it's compelling stuff.

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Speaker 1: I do remember that other documentary. I'm looking at it.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at him now and his face is very familiar.

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Speaker 6: Oh, it gives me the creeps. I'll tell you that

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Speaker 6: this will give you the creeps. This rarely gave me

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Speaker 6: the creeps. But it's extremely well made. The woman and

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Speaker 6: her husband who made it, Christine Marie. She's an incredible person,

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Speaker 6: just amazing. It's worth watching just to see her courage

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Speaker 6: in stepping into this sort of situation and how.

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Speaker 5: They really really work towards bringing down this man. And

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Speaker 5: it's just quite satisfying. Obviously I don't want to give

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Speaker 5: away the story, but they do get to the end,

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Speaker 5: which otherwise the documentary wouldn't be worth watching.

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Speaker 1: No quite right, Oh yuck, but also fascinating. Thanks Gil

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Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, this is definitely going to be on

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Speaker 1: my on my watch list. Yeah. Netflix does a good

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Speaker 1: does a good true crime docky, it does. Yeah, I'm impressed.

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Speaker 1: All right, there we go.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Gail, trust me. The false profit on on Netflix,