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Speaker 1: Two weekend breakfast healthy living.

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Speaker 2: It's eleven minutes after six o'clock. Time for us to

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Speaker 2: talk healthy living, and this morning we're speaking about I care.

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Speaker 2: Often don't speak about foot care. You're caring for your bag,

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Speaker 2: caring for a skin, carrying for our guts, but very

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Speaker 2: seldom do we think about our eyes as a thing

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Speaker 2: that needs care. And so this morning we are speaking

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Speaker 2: to specific late and Commendo, who is an optometrist. We

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Speaker 2: take your calls on a double one eight three oh

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Speaker 2: seven oh two one seven oh two. Socist. So, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning to you again, Good morning to

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Speaker 1: the listeners all over the world wherever they are.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for here, Thank you very much

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Speaker 2: for joining us. It's good to have you. So this

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Speaker 2: morning we're talking about some of the things we need

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Speaker 2: to be thinking about. But with regards to keeping our

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Speaker 2: eyes healthy, I think we kind of take our eyes

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Speaker 2: for granted. We just assume they're they're they're okay, they

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Speaker 2: don't need any special care. We don't need to be

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Speaker 2: thinking about them when we think about our health, but

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Speaker 2: I imagine, like any other part of the body, our

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Speaker 2: eyes also require a bit of you know, a bit

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Speaker 2: of care and attention.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, this is such an important topic.

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Speaker 1: You only have a pair of eyes and they are

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Speaker 1: supposed to last your lifetime. Yeah, and the importance of clear,

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Speaker 1: coordinated binocular vision is very important. So you're touching on

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Speaker 1: the topic. There is much closer to my heart, and

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Speaker 1: there is absolutely no doubt that more than eighty percent

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Speaker 1: of the information that we get from the outside world

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Speaker 1: it comes through the eyes. And if you don't take

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Speaker 1: good care of these two eyes, you will miss out

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Speaker 2: Right. So I was scrolling to TikTok this week and

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Speaker 2: I saw something about which kind of got me thinking

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Speaker 2: about I care. And someone was saying, in fact, they

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Speaker 2: were an autumatus as off. They were saying, if something

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Speaker 2: is in your eye, the worst thing you can actually

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Speaker 2: do for your eye is to rub your eye. So

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Speaker 2: many of us, you get a bit of dust, to

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Speaker 2: get a little bit of something in your eye, you

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Speaker 2: feel a bit of irritation, and you start rubbing your eye,

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Speaker 2: usually with your eyelid, to try to remove that thing.

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Speaker 2: And they were saying you could actually cause some damage.

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Speaker 2: There's apparently like a thin film over your eye that

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Speaker 2: can be damaged. So what should you be doing if

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Speaker 2: there is something in your eye? Is it correct that

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Speaker 2: you shouldn't be rubbing it to try and get whatever

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Speaker 2: that irritant or debris or that piece of whatever to

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Speaker 2: get it out of your eye. Don't rub.

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Speaker 1: Well. The most important thing about that kind of situation

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Speaker 1: is a foreign body in your eye, when in fact

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Speaker 1: there isn't one. You have an infection that has compromised

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Speaker 1: to seek professional health. But in the event that this

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Speaker 1: your eye, I would recommend irrigating the eye immediately. Just

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Speaker 2: In terms of you know, many of us spend a

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Speaker 2: lot of time looking at screens. We look at you know,

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Speaker 2: at work, you look at your screen on your laptop,

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Speaker 2: either your kindle, your cell phone, your iPad, and your TV.

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Speaker 2: And I remember when growing up, my parents used to

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Speaker 2: letting our eyes rest. Talk to us about that.

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Speaker 1: You've introduced an important topic, and particularly when you started

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Speaker 1: take care of children who are exposed to this blue

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Speaker 1: we appreciate the realm of blue light. Blue light interrupts

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Speaker 1: The blue light is emitted by the sun and by

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Speaker 1: this blue light will will trigger a lateness in your

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Speaker 1: a lot of disorders like your metabolic imbalances, causing things

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Speaker 1: like diabetes. So it's very important to to protect your

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Speaker 1: from this blue light. Excessive blue light will also cause cataracts,

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Speaker 1: and we encourage people to to protect their eyes from

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Speaker 1: blue light, particularly just before or sleep. And one of

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Speaker 1: the things that we will that we promote is that

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Speaker 1: screen time. Extended hours in front of a computer is

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Speaker 1: not good for your eyes. We always recommend what is

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Speaker 1: for every twenty minutes that you spend in front of

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Speaker 1: your visual display unit, you need to take twenty seconds

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Speaker 2: We have some questions here. So the first one is,

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Speaker 2: good morning, gogs. I was paper sprayed during a mugging?

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Speaker 2: How do I get my eyes sorted? They remain red?

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Speaker 2: I'm worried, kindly advice?

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Speaker 1: Or was she sprayed during a mugging? What happened?

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Speaker 2: So they were paper sprayed, obviously it would have been

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Speaker 2: are remaining. The eyes are store red, and they are

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Speaker 1: I will advise the collar to seek professional health by

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Speaker 1: cuckoo that to emphasize this part here optometrist and of phalmologists,

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Speaker 1: So during examination, the sleep lamp gives us a magnified

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Speaker 1: and we then prescripe. You will then get medication that

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Speaker 1: advise the collar to consult an optometrist or an ensanbologist.

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Speaker 2: Often when we think of it or eye protection, sunglasses

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Speaker 2: are mainly, I guess, a cool thing. It could be

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Speaker 2: a nice addition to your outfit. But is that we

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Speaker 2: should be thinking of sunglasses of hats as part of

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Speaker 2: the things we use to protect our eyes, specifically from

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Speaker 2: the sun. Talk to us about the importance of protecting

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Speaker 2: our eyes from the rays of the sun.

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Speaker 1: Very important question, Google, When when you are busy asking

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Speaker 1: the listener that not all sunglasses have got UV protection.

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Speaker 1: The most important roll of sunglasses is to protect your

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Speaker 1: is up to four hundred nanometers. The problem that we

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Speaker 1: have is when people use sunglasses as for for cosmetic reasons,

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Speaker 1: that we know that the ozone layer is getting depleted

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Speaker 1: That's why now that u V, that u V sunglass

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Speaker 2: How would you figure out if a pair of sunglasses

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Speaker 1: That's a very important question because we see sunglasses being

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Speaker 1: four hundred nanometers protection. So the most important thing is

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Speaker 1: a reputable brand. And sometimes you get these cheapias and

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Speaker 1: So if you are using a professional the IK provider,

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Speaker 2: With regards to getting your eyes tested. And also if

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Speaker 2: you are then you know someone who doesn't have twenty

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Speaker 2: Some people wear their glasses consistently, some people don't. Some

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Speaker 2: people don't want to wear their glasses because they say

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Speaker 2: it will weaken their eyesights. What is fact and what

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Speaker 2: is myth with regards to prescription glasses, contact lenses. If

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Speaker 2: you are someone who needs the assistance of classes or contactlences.

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Speaker 1: That's another very important question. The Weld Health Organization has

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Speaker 1: come out clearly and declared shortsightedness, which is myopia, an epidemic.

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Speaker 1: So there's been there's been extensive research done in this field,

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Speaker 1: and we know now that the alia that we intervene

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Speaker 1: for that matter. We know that the better are the prospects,

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Speaker 1: It is a myth Google that some that spectacles they

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Speaker 1: make your vision worse. It has been proven beyond reasonable

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Speaker 1: doubt that the wearing of sunglasses early enough, early enough,

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Speaker 1: and the use of myopia control lenses will benefit the child.

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Speaker 2: Us about in some instances, I you know, challenges to

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Speaker 2: be genetic. For instance, talk to us about that, Yes.

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Speaker 1: So that genetic history is very important and genetic counseling.

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Speaker 1: You've introduced an important topic called kerater conus. The condition

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Speaker 1: So when he's asking if that cornal graft can be replaced,

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Speaker 2: Right, we've got what's a voisonere just to wrap up

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Speaker 3: Good money gooks. Just to ask the doctor and what

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Speaker 3: is the impact of these eye lashes that people put

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you very much for that. What's up voice?

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Speaker 1: Not a very important question again, the use of eye lashes.

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Speaker 1: It is very important google that when if you if

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Speaker 1: In my work, you will be surprised how many of

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Speaker 1: you can't see through that scar. So it's it's very

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Speaker 2: I'm just thank you very very much for giving us

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Speaker 2: your time this morning. I appreciate you at joining us

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Speaker 2: on the show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for inviting us to create more public awareness

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Speaker 1: on IK and the hygiene.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: And I wish the listeners of the luck and taking

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Speaker 1: good care of their eyes.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. That is for sisilated Goumente he's

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