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Speaker 1: Time now for the world of viral content. Let's catch

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Speaker 1: up with Cabazela Cabozella.

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Speaker 2: Ah, good morning to you bad oh.

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Speaker 1: You know those awkward conversations, either in the family or

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Speaker 1: at the office, especially, this certainly would be one unless

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Speaker 1: you tell it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think if it's family, it's probably less awkward because

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Speaker 2: it's family fight with you for a day, and then

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Speaker 2: you know you're best friends the next day. But when

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Speaker 2: it comes to people at the office or maybe other

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Speaker 2: public places that you frequent a lot and you see

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Speaker 2: the same people, it can be quite difficult and challenging.

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Speaker 2: I think as a politician would say. So, I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you have somebody at the office who maybe has

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Speaker 2: a body odor and it's daily, or they you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe they sniffing a lot or with their nose, how

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Speaker 2: do you tell them without you know, offending them. So

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Speaker 2: this person a letter online and he had to tell

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Speaker 2: colleague who smells his body odor. And he went about

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Speaker 2: it by sending them a letter. Gave them a letter

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Speaker 2: and on the folded letter it said please read alone.

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Speaker 2: And then the letter opens up and you see it

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Speaker 2: he's dear so and so, Okay, we don't know who

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Speaker 2: the name is because he's blocked it out. I overheard

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Speaker 2: some coworkers discussing you, so I thought i'd tell you

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Speaker 2: that they and I have noticed a strong odor. And

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Speaker 2: it's not the end of the day kind of works smell.

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Speaker 2: It's first thing in the morning you smell this way.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you this not to be mean, but so

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Speaker 2: that you can correct it if I was. If I

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Speaker 2: was you, I would want somebody to tell me. Sincerely, Anonymous.

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Speaker 2: Now what do you think of this letter? Do you

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Speaker 2: think it was the right way to do it? Do

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Speaker 2: you think the person should have gone up to the

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Speaker 2: colleague and sort of pulled them aside and said, listen,

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Speaker 2: you know I've noticed this. You know a bit of

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Speaker 2: axtiodorant or whatever it may be would help. And have

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Speaker 2: you had to do this to somebody at work? Maybe

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Speaker 2: they have had a body odor, or like I said,

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Speaker 2: they sniff all the time next to you and it

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Speaker 2: annoys you. How have you approached somebody at the at

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Speaker 2: the office or in a public place, maybe it's in

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Speaker 2: a gym even and somebody has a sweaty body smell?

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Speaker 2: How do you tell them? With art at getting into

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Speaker 2: a bit of a fisticuffs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, even a family, I think this would be awkward.

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Speaker 1: It's an awkward conversation. Yeah, how do you deal with it?

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Speaker 1: And to be care we all have body odor, just

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Speaker 1: for some of us it's stronger than others and more

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Speaker 1: pleasant than others. Perhaps, how do you deal with this

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Speaker 1: kind of thing, especially at the office. That's what's gone

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Speaker 1: viral with penionless. Ye I was, I was wondering what

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Speaker 1: that smell was?

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Speaker 4: Nice smell, I know.

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Speaker 3: But your it would be hard hat it is.

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Speaker 4: Also take the approach on the Cabasa story. Infact, I'll

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Speaker 4: type it out on this maybe on a stick, type

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Speaker 4: it out, not use my handwriting because I don't want

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Speaker 4: it to be traced. Yeah, type it out, live it

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Speaker 4: in your bag, Bongani, and hope you see it and

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Speaker 4: run for my life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it's Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I've been in this situation where I had a friend

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Speaker 1: who had never used theodorant. Yeah, how you we all

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Speaker 1: figured it out?

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Speaker 4: Did you tell him?

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Speaker 3: I did? And he brought the odorant and now all

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Speaker 3: thanks to you, friendship saved. Yeah. Yeah, straight talk breaks

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Speaker 3: no friendship one hundred.

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Speaker 5: This is breakfast with Bongani on seven O two.

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Speaker 1: Let's walk little Cabasella wants to know a colleague has

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Speaker 1: a pungent odor, but not in a pleasant way.

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Speaker 3: I'd tell Motel. I'd say, my guy, what's what's going on.

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Speaker 3: You'd leap at the chance. Wow wow. I would do

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Speaker 3: it with sensitivity.

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Speaker 1: I would definitely do it without trying to embarrass you,

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Speaker 1: and i'd pull you aside.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I could tell Almo. I think it

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Speaker 3: would be easy.

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Speaker 6: I know I couldn't the easiest person around.

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Speaker 1: I would not be able to tell Almo. So you

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Speaker 1: told me, I would know. I would approach one of

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Speaker 1: the producers, one of the female producers, or you know

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Speaker 1: in the office we have. I call her sus Prim,

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Speaker 1: but many of the younger ones call her mom Prim. Yes, right,

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Speaker 1: she's been at the station for donkeyos, so she's sort

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Speaker 1: of everyone's mother. I'd go to someone like says Prim

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Speaker 1: and say, wink wink, there's a situation. Because she's seen

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Speaker 1: as a motherly figure. I don't think it would be

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Speaker 1: as difficult to receive from her. Go tell somebody's wife.

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Speaker 1: I am sorry, Go tell someone's wife that they don't know.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't do that.

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Speaker 6: I think it will be easier for me if you

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Speaker 6: were smelling of alcohol. It's easier for me to tell

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Speaker 3: Else you're having a drink in the morning.

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Speaker 7: MM.

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Speaker 6: That is not making sure. Please can you try and

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Speaker 6: get your life.

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Speaker 3: To get it?

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Speaker 1: Sounds easier. I remember a colleague who is no longer

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Speaker 1: here in this building, who would arrive reaching of whiskey

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Speaker 1: every morning. But this was a big shot person. I no. No,

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Speaker 1: I was a lowly overnight newsreader in those days. So

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Speaker 1: don't even try to figure out. We're talking twenty years

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Speaker 1: ago and it wasn't as easy.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you understand the the you were an overnight newsreader,

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Speaker 6: not that your position places you in a position where

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Speaker 6: you can't be able to tell a person. But if

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Speaker 6: you've established a friendship, I think that would be easier.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 1: The only time this person ever tried to establish any

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Speaker 1: kind of rapport, not friendship, was when they suddenly saw

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Speaker 1: me on carte blanche. And then I would meet them

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Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, bo Ghani, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: m h, how's the whiskey, bongie and cazella.

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Speaker 3: Man, you're making me cracking up. Early morning.

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Speaker 9: A couple of years ago, I and a friend and

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Speaker 9: another friend we were jobbing together, so we were driving

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Speaker 9: together to work and one of our friends, men is free,

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Speaker 9: would talk in all languages in the morning, and the

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Speaker 9: two of us would discuss and say, listen, how are

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Speaker 9: we going to resolve this problem?

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Speaker 3: And especially in the winter when you put under.

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Speaker 9: The air conditioner, and that's when his feet talked the loudest,

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Speaker 9: and we were discussing, who's going to.

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Speaker 3: Tell this guy or how are we going to approach it.

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Speaker 3: We never did.

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Speaker 9: He felt a shame to tell this guy that his

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Speaker 10: Good morning, money. The issue of body order and bad breath.

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Speaker 10: The problem is with all human beings. You also don't

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Speaker 10: know yourself if you also have the same problem. But

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Speaker 10: I refuse to believe that people do not know that

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Speaker 10: their umpits are smelling, because what is for you to

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Speaker 10: take a sniff your under arms and you will smell yourself.

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Speaker 10: The only problem is the breath that is a problem.

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Speaker 10: But yes, I would like someone to tell me if

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Speaker 10: I have the breath or my I have body order.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, it's a tricker one, but it needs to

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Speaker 10: be done and that later is quite since I like

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Speaker 10: it like that.

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Speaker 3: Good morning. This is Rolani.

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Speaker 8: I feel for my son he's seventeen years old and

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Speaker 8: he has this order, and we have taken him to

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Speaker 8: the doctor and we don't seem to find relief. Yesterday

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Speaker 8: I came back. I knew he was already in the

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Speaker 8: house because sometimes it comes after me. When I came back,

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Speaker 8: when I opened the door, could smell that he's there.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if what help can I get him,

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Speaker 8: because I think we have tried everything that we could.

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Speaker 8: I would like seven or two to help me in

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Speaker 8: this regard. Thank you about Anny.

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Speaker 1: I have actually encountered that. I have encountered that where

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Speaker 1: for a medical reason the person just gives off a

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Speaker 1: really intense body order. But the other thing, I think,

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Speaker 1: let's let's maybe step back a lot again. This is

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Speaker 1: why history matters, right. For most of humanity, human beings

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Speaker 1: Homo sapiens have not used any role on or body spray.

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Speaker 1: In fact, perfume became a thing, particularly in Europe because

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Speaker 1: Europeans hardly took baths in those days. Right, the ancestors

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Speaker 1: that we all love so dearly, if you had to

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Speaker 1: bring them around today, it won't smell like you do.

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Speaker 1: So I think sometimes context matters, right, and particularly for

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Speaker 1: people who come from countries where you can barely put

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Speaker 1: enough food on the table and there's wars going on.

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Speaker 1: Deodorant is not going to be your biggest priority. But

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Speaker 1: what if it's a medical issue, If there's any doctor

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Speaker 1: out there who can help us decipher that, Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just think that must be absolutely awful to deal

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Speaker 1: with when everybody knows this is your particular story. Simple

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Speaker 1: you said it happened to you, Yeah, but.

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Speaker 11: It happened to me. I was actually you know, you

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Speaker 11: know that at the time when you just smell your

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Speaker 11: shirt under your unkids and you say, oh, I'm fine,

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Speaker 11: let me.

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Speaker 3: Just wear the ship when you smell the shirt, yes, yeah.

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Speaker 11: Then they were the shirt twice. So I went to work,

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Speaker 11: got to work and my colleagues, my manager actually asked

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Speaker 11: the I the outsourced it guy. I must have smelt

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Speaker 11: like it kun, So she asked guy to to help me.

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Speaker 11: So the guys asked me, I can we go downstairs?

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Speaker 11: Then accompanied me downstairs. We got there, it pre painted

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Speaker 11: like a ngging fly. And I got the message that

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Speaker 11: day I could have I smelt like something else, And

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Speaker 11: it was embarrassing that I got the message and from

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Speaker 11: that day I was using a pure.

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Speaker 7: Yes.

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Speaker 11: So it happened to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear you, I hear you, my friend,

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Speaker 1: thank you for sharing that story, Sammy Urine Centurion.

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Speaker 3: You want to talk about history and school, Yes.

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Speaker 12: I say, we shouldn't get to look for our country.

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Speaker 12: School should tell it. And it's tired as it death happened.

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Speaker 12: We shouldn't whether lubo wo uh the lengths egg they

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Speaker 12: did like, we should tell it as it happened. But

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Speaker 12: when it comes to his school of other parts of

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Speaker 12: the world, yes, they say, we should tell all the

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Speaker 12: things that are live into our country that are going

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Speaker 12: to benefit our children. Like for example, you're talking about

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Speaker 12: the civil rights movements in just like USA, Cuba, people

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Speaker 12: like March to Luca Cube. So we should tell about

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Speaker 12: these things about those people.

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Speaker 1: But I know, hold on, all these things are interconnected.

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Speaker 1: The Civil Rights movie comes from a particular struggle, so

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Speaker 1: part of Martin Luther King's approach. For example, as far

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Speaker 1: as civil disobedience is concerned, he learned from Gandhi. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you ignore Dandy and say it but that only

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Speaker 1: happened in India, you don't get to MLK and you

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Speaker 1: don't get some of the struggles on this continent and

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Speaker 1: how they were waged.

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Speaker 3: Do you see what I mean that?

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Speaker 13: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 11: But for example, we're taking about not to Luther ching right,

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Speaker 11: But you cannot like suddenly start telling them about other

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Speaker 11: people in us that are not relevant to us. That

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Speaker 11: to think people in us that you shouldn't we shouldn't

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Speaker 11: learn about them. I just not relevant to us.

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Speaker 1: All right, Sami? Who decides what's relevant to us? I

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Speaker 1: think is a question I'm asking David Juran Ruderport body odor,

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Speaker 1: good morning.

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Speaker 7: One of the things that people don't take a notice

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Speaker 7: of is when you do your washing of your clothes,

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Speaker 7: and certain certain washing powders have enzymes. Most of them

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Speaker 7: after a certain temperature sort of I think it's about

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Speaker 7: twenty nine to thirty degrees. So if you have pole

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Speaker 7: water washes and you're using keeper washing powders, you end

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Speaker 7: up with the enzymes are not reacting and getting rid

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Speaker 7: of the body odor. As soon as I explained it

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Speaker 7: it on the thirty and above. Guess what, all the

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Speaker 7: smell of his clothes went away. And it's very similar

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Speaker 7: to body odor your clothes. What's your clothes smell like?

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Speaker 7: So depending on what how these guys and what they

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Speaker 7: use and what they wash, but it's generally you've got

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Speaker 7: to have a bit of heat with the enzymes and

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Speaker 7: the washing partners and the cheaper ones are probably got

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Speaker 7: less or I'm not exactly sure about it. So I

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Speaker 7: used to know about it some while ago. But that's

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Speaker 7: really the secret. As soon as you've got to you've

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Speaker 7: got to wash the close of the correct temperatures. Because

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Speaker 7: he's knowing wish and you walk past seas you seem

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Speaker 7: to this guy's and you know, you know this guy boss,

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Speaker 7: and he's clean, but he's clothes smell and it smells

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Speaker 7: our body odor. So it's it's a case of maybe

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Speaker 7: some research needs to be done with get a professional

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great idea, David. I think we'll

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Speaker 1: do exactly that, maybe sometime next week. Get somebody to

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Speaker 1: explain all of this and the science of it all

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Speaker 1: and what it means in terms of even from medical

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Speaker 1: is how much I learned from seven to two landers. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I've never thought about the temperature that you must use

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Speaker 1: for your washing. Some like you're an alex you recommending

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Speaker 1: a particular soap bon Nanny.

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Speaker 13: When we were growing up in the dusty townships, you know,

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Speaker 13: we hit our peers who had the same problem. I

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Speaker 13: remember our school teachers who actually advised some of these

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Speaker 13: and it really works, I don't want to lie. And

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Speaker 13: that soap was actually designed for to wash horses. It

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Speaker 13: was horses smell a lot after they probably raised, you know.

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Speaker 13: And and and that body odor or the odor of horses,

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Speaker 13: sweaty horses. You take it away using that blue soap.

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Speaker 1: Huh where do you get blue soap these days? Where

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Speaker 1: did we get it in those days? Pepelen, you have

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Speaker 1: the last word on this. You want to speak to

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Speaker 1: the issue of that gentleman was struggling with body odor.

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Speaker 5: Yes, hill Ay, good morning, and good morning to your

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Speaker 5: seven or two listeners. Hi, thank you so much. I

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Speaker 5: just wanted to say I was watching the talk show

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Speaker 5: in previous years and the Chinese lady said the reason

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Speaker 5: the reason that she doesn't use any deodorant at all

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Speaker 5: is because she's eating healthy. So we all know what

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Speaker 5: Chinese people are very famous for eating quite healthy. So

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Speaker 5: she says she cuts out the spices and the sauces

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Speaker 5: and whatever, but I don't know what she uses and

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Speaker 5: as an alternative, but that has reduced her body order

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Speaker 5: and she doesn't get to use any deodorant. And they

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Speaker 5: to her actually literally smelled her armput and she said,

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Speaker 5: there's absolutely no smell, and she all thanks it to

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Speaker 5: healthy eating.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yes, hey, look I love this evening.

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Speaker 5: I've cooked spices all the time, but I make sure

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Speaker 5: that I balanced it with water.

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