WEBVTT - A song, A Book, A Dish- Dr Michael Mol, Media Personality

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<v Speaker 1>A song, a.

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<v Speaker 2>Book, and a dish. I'm seven o two, twelve minutes

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<v Speaker 2>to six.

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<v Speaker 1>Normally, when we introduce our guests for the closing feature

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of a week on seven oh two Drive,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty easy to introduce them. But if I had

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<v Speaker 1>to do this with my next guest, it really would

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<v Speaker 1>take a while. Because he's a medical doctor, he's produced

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<v Speaker 1>and presented on television, he's an international speaker, he's involved

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<v Speaker 1>in the world of healthcare, and on and on it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even going to try. I'm just going to say,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to seven oh two Drive, doctor Michael Mole, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for your time.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, mister John Pulman. It's good to

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<v Speaker 2>be with your the show, and thank you for the invite.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Michael, let me ask you this. I mean, one

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<v Speaker 1>could look at all the things you've done and someone

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<v Speaker 1>might say, well, this guy didn't really know what he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do. Another interpretation that might be you had

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<v Speaker 1>a very good idea all through your career of the

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of things you wanted to do. You just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do them in a whole range of different ways,

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<v Speaker 1>which is.

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<v Speaker 2>John. I wish it was the latter the truth is

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<v Speaker 2>the former. It's okay, just kind of was being the

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<v Speaker 2>yes guy, like I'll take that opportunity, I'll jump at that,

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<v Speaker 2>and yes, yes. My very first sort of screen test

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<v Speaker 2>for top billing this I just qualified. I was a

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<v Speaker 2>medical doctor. I was working in trauma and then I

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<v Speaker 2>get put in front of a camera and lights and

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<v Speaker 2>all I remember was forgetting my lines and getting stupid

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, make me some sort of ad lib

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<v Speaker 2>comment and thought, well, that's the first and last time

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<v Speaker 2>I'll ever be on camera. And they came back and said, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 2>we love that, you know, would you consider work with us?

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<v Speaker 2>So it was that was honestly the edge on It

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of just opportunities that always grabbed them and

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<v Speaker 2>went with it. And yeah, I'm still trying to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out what I should be doing with my life.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, it's a nice position to be in in

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<v Speaker 1>many ways if you're always finding things you like doing.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's go back to varticle of primary. You're the

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<v Speaker 1>oldest of three kids. Your dad is doing lots of things, authors, speaker,

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<v Speaker 1>management consultant, your mom's a school teacher. Those primary school days,

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<v Speaker 1>what did did you have fantasies? I mean, was medicine

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<v Speaker 1>already on the horizon for you.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't you know in primary school I was a

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<v Speaker 2>Liverpool fan. It was it was kind of football that

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<v Speaker 2>was really you know, all that sort of took up

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<v Speaker 2>my headspace. That and probably probably music. Medicine was late

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<v Speaker 2>into my high school career, kind of thinking what am

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<v Speaker 2>I going to do, and just there was something about

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<v Speaker 2>committing to people, you know, human flourishing just seemed to

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<v Speaker 2>sort of well open me. And that's kind of where

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<v Speaker 2>medicine landed. So my poor brother, who's an team surgeon,

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<v Speaker 2>you wanted to be a whole life and he just

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<v Speaker 2>felt like, as the oldest brother, I scupper his plans

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<v Speaker 2>and dreams just before and kind of picked medicine. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's as I said the first question, it was really

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<v Speaker 2>just giuristic and you know, went to what was in

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<v Speaker 2>front of me.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to go to food, and I may as well, well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to go there yet on your dish

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<v Speaker 1>that you've shared with us, because perhaps I ought to

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<v Speaker 1>warn the listener. Let's first of all, start off at

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<v Speaker 1>the mole dinner table. There's three of you. You're the oldest.

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<v Speaker 1>Your dad sounds like he's involved in interesting stuff. Your

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<v Speaker 1>mom coming back with stories from school. What was going on? Firstly,

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<v Speaker 1>what were you eating? And spoiler alert, it wasn't Vietnamese steak, Philip.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get snake Philip. We'll get to that in the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>But meal times at the moles give us a sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Of it, John, we were eating all the wrong things, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>having sceneal, I promise you like honey smacks and strawberry

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<v Speaker 2>pops and foods and pasta. If I to think about

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<v Speaker 2>what we ate as kids and bless my mom. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>she was a stay at home mom and she looked

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<v Speaker 2>after us and loved us and still in good health.

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<v Speaker 2>But what we ate them and what we know now

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<v Speaker 2>about what's good to eat and whole food and ditching

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<v Speaker 2>the process with I'm surprised I even made it to

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<v Speaker 2>fifty plus. So we weren't eating the right things at all,

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<v Speaker 2>but we were eating together. I think that was huge

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<v Speaker 2>for my CHILDO growing up, as we'd gather around a

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<v Speaker 2>dining table and at least for one meal a day,

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<v Speaker 2>there'd be five of us at the table sharing the

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<v Speaker 2>day ideas thoughts. My dad would kind of lead with

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of Bible kind of prayer and story. So

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<v Speaker 2>it was a wonderful family time gathered around meals. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was way more helpful and healthy than

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<v Speaker 2>actually what does on our plate?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's do the Vietnamese snake phill. It's sooner

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<v Speaker 1>you than me. Why are you telling us about this?

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<v Speaker 1>We asked you for your favorite dish and tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Us it's the opposite, John, I mean, I know, ask

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<v Speaker 2>the favorite dishes and you always change. Let me give

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<v Speaker 2>you what was my antithesis of a favorite dish? We

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<v Speaker 2>bring Vietnam? It was a toppling story. We got to

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<v Speaker 2>a snake restaurant. Now I had a terrible fear of snakes,

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<v Speaker 2>so already this is a big stretch for me. We

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<v Speaker 2>get to the restaurant, the owner sees the camera, he

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<v Speaker 2>sees the lights, brings out this prized cobra and starts

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<v Speaker 2>kind of with its tail, manipulating the snake. It's obviously

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<v Speaker 2>been defanged, but the snake's rarey. It's beautiful. Team. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just the cameraman's you know, in his element and

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<v Speaker 2>then out of the blue. John. And this is if

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<v Speaker 2>you're listening to this, you might want to turn the

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<v Speaker 2>volume down. For a moment out of the blue, this

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<v Speaker 2>this restaurant snake. Restaurant owner guts the snake, just takes

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<v Speaker 2>a life, cuts its heart out, puts it in a

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<v Speaker 2>little glass with a little bit of blood, a shot glass.

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<v Speaker 2>The heart is still beating, and then he hands it

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<v Speaker 2>to me. It's like a guest of honor. And camera's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of rolling up on me and here I am

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<v Speaker 2>with a beating snake's heart and a glass of blood,

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<v Speaker 2>and I kind of got a down it because that's

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<v Speaker 2>the respectful thing to do in that culture. It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was awful. I mean, I felt terrible doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>It went out on air, actually, and that's the when

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<v Speaker 2>email was still fairly new. You know, we just got

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<v Speaker 2>more hate mail than I'd ever gotten for something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can understand now why it was. Guys, this

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<v Speaker 2>is culturally appropriate and acceptable in Vietnam. Quite the opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is the beauty of cultures. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>what we're trying to teach you. But my word, and

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, later that evening was a bottle of wine

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<v Speaker 2>on the table, John that had bamboo shoots in it.

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<v Speaker 2>You do you know what a bad shoot is? You

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<v Speaker 2>know that we can sell it to ask someone who

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<v Speaker 2>could barely speak English, like, what why do you why

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<v Speaker 2>are you good bamboo shoots on this wine? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>And he came with a big grin in his face.

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<v Speaker 2>And it turns out again this is snake penis wine.

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<v Speaker 2>Had penis full of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they did have penises until they made the wine.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that just makes my skin crawl. And I

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<v Speaker 2>thought I should share that with you, just as an

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<v Speaker 2>you know, an empty to what you normally hear on

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<v Speaker 2>the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I suppose some nostalgia for the honey smacks,

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<v Speaker 1>as bad as they might be for you. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about your book, Michael, because because this reflects

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<v Speaker 1>what I understand to be a very very central part

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<v Speaker 1>of your life now. Peter Attire m D. Is the author,

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<v Speaker 1>co written with Bill Gifford. Some people may know the book.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called Outlive The Science and Art of Longevity. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it fair to say this is your new central passion?

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<v Speaker 1>And if so, tell us why.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what Atya did is he captured a passion

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<v Speaker 2>in many of us. And the big idea behind behind

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<v Speaker 2>out Live is focus on health span, not lifespan. Lifespan

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<v Speaker 2>is how we live global average seventy three. Health span

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<v Speaker 2>is how long we live free of disease and disability,

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<v Speaker 2>and the average is around sixty three, which means John,

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<v Speaker 2>for ten years, we are dying slowly, and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>we want to avoid. As a doctor, I was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to extend lifespan. That was kind of the old way

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<v Speaker 2>of looking at things. Medicine two point zero, medicine three

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<v Speaker 2>point oh, says guys, let's look at health span, let's

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<v Speaker 2>look at quality of life, let's look at good years

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to long years. And he just dives into

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<v Speaker 2>the science, and it's good science, and it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just there's such valuable information that it's a tough

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<v Speaker 2>read if you're not medical, if you don't know any games.

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<v Speaker 2>But the concept is just a slam dug. It tells

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<v Speaker 2>the story about Toathonis in Greek folks or to Furnas

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<v Speaker 2>ask the god's for eternal life. They gave it to him.

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<v Speaker 2>It was overjoyed until he started to get older and

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<v Speaker 2>older and older and more decrept and suddenly relatives should

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<v Speaker 2>have asked for eternal youth too, because getting older is

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<v Speaker 2>just awful. And that's the premise of the book. And

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<v Speaker 2>the science is there. It's a good read if you

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't read it, highly recommended.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's go from good life to good times. We

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<v Speaker 1>asked you to pick a song. You picked bon Jovi

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<v Speaker 1>Born to Be My Baby, all the way back in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty eight. Normally we play in a little soft

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<v Speaker 1>intro of a song, but this one begins with a bang.

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<v Speaker 1>So do tell us why you picked this and then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll play out with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a tattoo, John, but if I did,

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<v Speaker 2>it might say something like bon Jovi forever. I was

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<v Speaker 2>a huge fan. There's all of my big disappointments in life.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Bussy Kamalo to Bits. My fellow co host,

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<v Speaker 2>we had an opportunity to interview John Bonavie and she

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<v Speaker 2>took it and I like, you just don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>you've done.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean you got the snake cards and I think.

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<v Speaker 2>That, yeah, exactly. You know this is the flip side.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you why that song in particular is special

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<v Speaker 2>to me, John. It's it triggers all sorts of nostalgia.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a medical term for what that is. A

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<v Speaker 2>contra member quite now, but I was lip syncing in

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<v Speaker 2>the age of millieven Lily remember that, yes, yes, this

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<v Speaker 2>song on stage, Born to Be My Baby by Bono

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<v Speaker 2>Vi guitar in hand, just one big you know, fake

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<v Speaker 2>fake musician, and a young girl walked in at the

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<v Speaker 2>back who was gorgeous, looked at me. I looked at her,

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of this moment. And I've been married to

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<v Speaker 2>that young girl for a big partner two the timing

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<v Speaker 2>thanks her, in fact, for three years. So I met

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<v Speaker 2>my wife singing bon Jovi is Born to Be My Baby,

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<v Speaker 2>will pretending to sing it anyway, And that's why that

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<v Speaker 2>song's just got this phenomenal nostalgia attached to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, fabulous, thank you. Wish we had more time, but

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<v Speaker 1>let's play out with bon Jovi, A classic from nine