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Speaker 1: Time to dive back into the world of food and

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Speaker 1: bring you the latest from the Master Chef Kitchen. So

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Speaker 1: having watched last night, you'll know that nobody went home

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Speaker 1: at all, and there are in fact a couple of

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Speaker 1: contestants who must be thanking their lucky stars that it

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Speaker 1: was a non elimination challenge because there were a few

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Speaker 1: tales that would definitely have been on the line if

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Speaker 1: it wasn't. It's not to say that the stakes were

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Speaker 1: not high last night though, Even though they were in

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Speaker 1: white aprons at the start of the challenge, it was

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Speaker 1: announced that the dish of the day would take home

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Speaker 1: a fifty thousand rand cash prize, so there was plenty

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Speaker 1: of reason for them to take things very seriously. Indeed,

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Speaker 1: we have no contestant to speak to, but we do

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Speaker 1: have a judge and it's a pleasure to welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the show Zola Nene, to share some insights onto

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Speaker 1: what's going on behind the scenes and to talk about

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Speaker 1: that challenge.

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Speaker 2: Sona. It's lovely to have you back on the show again. Welcome.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's always so lovely speaking to you for that.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me, always a pleasure. Listen, before

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Speaker 2: we talk about last night's challenge.

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Speaker 1: Let's just chat briefly about how the first six weeks

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Speaker 1: have gone so far. I mean, have you have there

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Speaker 1: been shock exits of content, instance that the judges privately

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Speaker 1: had thought were contenders for the title. Have there been

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Speaker 1: people who disappeared really much earlier than they thought they

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Speaker 1: should always have kind of going per your expectations.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, absolutely, there've been many, many shockers, even for

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Speaker 3: us judges. This is the thing about Master Chef. You're

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Speaker 3: only as good as your last cook. So it doesn't

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Speaker 3: matter what your potential is beyond that challenge. It doesn't

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Speaker 3: matter what you did previously. We literally judge on that challenge.

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Speaker 3: So if you remember, we had a double elimination, not

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Speaker 3: this past week, the week before, yes, and or the

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Speaker 3: week before that rather, and that was a shocker, I'm

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Speaker 3: sure to everybody, including the judges, because you know, we

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Speaker 3: looked at the parameters of the challenge and both the

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Speaker 3: had to go. So yeah, these are difficult decisions, but

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Speaker 3: you know, it's the name of the game.

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Speaker 1: It must be tough, though, because, as you say, you're

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Speaker 1: judging honor the dish in front of you right now

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Speaker 1: in this challenge. But it must be hard to set

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Speaker 1: aside what you know of this person's potential and what

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Speaker 1: they've served to you before. Do you have to kind

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Speaker 1: of keep reminding each other? I mean, Kevin's there three

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Speaker 1: and narrow in that regard exactly.

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Speaker 3: We do. We have very heated debates when we do judge,

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Speaker 3: just because we take it so seriously and we understand

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Speaker 3: the impact of sending somebody home, you know, you kind

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Speaker 3: of cutting their dream short, and we do we hold

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Speaker 3: each other accountable. We stick to the parameters of the challenge,

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Speaker 3: as I said, and yeah, we debate about it, we

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Speaker 3: talk about it. We score everything so we always have

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Speaker 3: we're judging as well. We write in our little notebook,

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Speaker 1: Of a.

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Speaker 3: Tie between whatever the decision is, we go back to

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Speaker 3: the basics and we go, Okay, first of all, did

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 3: We take all those things into regard when we judge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now, I mean in terms of the things that are

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Speaker 1: proving to be ongoing challenges for the contestants, time management.

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Speaker 1: Is that, what you say, one of the big challenges

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, you're actually right, great, observation. Time management

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Speaker 1: We're in conversation with Solonnanez, one of the three judges

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Speaker 1: on Masterschef South Africa. And if you're just tuning in,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, come on, every cook worth their salt

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Speaker 1: And yet quite a number of the contestants actually admitted

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Speaker 1: I really am and Sola, I'm loving this show. I

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Speaker 1: It's just making for such an interesting and varied presentation

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Speaker 1: Fair Enough, as you said, it's a limited space available

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Speaker 1: for a single episode. You can't fit in every single

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Speaker 1: one of those pieces of feedback Zono. Now, let let's

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Speaker 1: just talk about the top last night. To finish here,

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Speaker 1: it really made my heart sing the outcome last night.

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Speaker 1: the surgeon who cooks so well as well. He did

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Speaker 1: a knockout chocolate duck on a ranch you had in Tobacco.

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Speaker 1: You were raving about his pear and white chocolate tart

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Speaker 1: with a bacon and red wine reduction, but the winning dish.

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Speaker 1: Bless you for giving winning dish too much. That se

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Speaker 1: because I was watching with my heart in my throat.

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Speaker 2: It be him.

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Speaker 1: For those who don't know the backstory, twenty three years old,

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Speaker 1: he's still a student being raised by a mom who

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Speaker 2: It is a struggle for both of them.

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Speaker 1: And when you told him that he had won the

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Speaker 1: fifty thousand round prize, I was in tiars only he

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Speaker 3: By no means was it a sympathy vote. The top

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Speaker 3: And in terms of technique, I mean, he made the

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Speaker 2: Okay, oh they must have tasted amazing. I wish I

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Speaker 1: But sona I mean wonderful, wonderful outcome, and just the

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Speaker 1: that episode last night, just in conclusion. Next week they

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Speaker 1: I gather you are roping in some of the former

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Speaker 3: Tell us, yo, So I won't do any spoilers, but yes,

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Speaker 3: exactly so it's the first team challenge. We're going to

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Speaker 3: very interesting dynamic. And yes, we've invited ex contestants to

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Speaker 2: Judges we'll see, or does it give them all PTSD.

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Speaker 1: We'll sign up next weekend. Sona wonderful to chat to

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Speaker 1: you today. Thank you for a fantastic job that you

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Speaker 1: and the fellow judges are doing whipping together this remarkable

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Speaker 1: season of MASTERSHIF South Africa. And I'm sure we'll touch

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much, Paper and I'm so so happy that

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Speaker 3: you're enjoying the show so much. Thank you your feedback

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Speaker 3: We try so art something that is so beautiful and

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Speaker 1: Solnana, one of the three judges, the lucky Woman gets

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Speaker 1: to taste all of that food, although I suppose occasionally

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Speaker 1: that might backfire if the food is not up to standard.

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Speaker 1: But for those who are asking, if you want to

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Speaker 1: watch a repeat of last night's episode Saturday at five

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Speaker 1: That'll be a repeat of last night's episode. And they're

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Speaker 1: reminder that next week that first Team Challenge episode that

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Speaker 1: is going to air Sunday evening at six pm on

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Speaker 1: ETV