WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: In Motion album launch at Jazz in the Native Yards 

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<v Speaker 1>The band in Motion is launching their album at Jazz

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<v Speaker 1>in the Native Yards tonight, and we wanted to have

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<v Speaker 1>band leaders of vom Ian Levin on guitar. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>on guitar right now, but he will be later and

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<v Speaker 1>Theodore Bould on the line to tell us more about

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<v Speaker 1>the launch and the album and their music. Good morning

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<v Speaker 1>to you both. Have we got you both hopefully via zoom.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes we're here.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hello, Hello, morning morning gens.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us a little bit about the band, a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about your background. How long have you been together

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<v Speaker 1>and from where do you hail?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm from Johannesburg, South Africa, and Tao is from Geneva, Switzerland,

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<v Speaker 3>and we met in Montroux in Switzerland. We both participated

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<v Speaker 3>in a guitar competition and yeah, that's how we met.

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<v Speaker 2>That was when was that sixteen?

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<v Speaker 3>I guess twenty sixteen exactly, and we've known each other

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<v Speaker 3>since then.

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<v Speaker 2>The band's been together since twenty nineteen. I guess yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, so that's how we met and that's how

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<v Speaker 2>I've been together.

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<v Speaker 1>Tayor, I'm so sorry I pronounced your name incorrectly. I

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<v Speaker 1>do apologize, Tao, not for the tear and then tell

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<v Speaker 1>us about the album and how long has it been,

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<v Speaker 1>how long has it been in the works, and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>now you're ready to launch. What can we expect from

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<v Speaker 1>from the album.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we recorded this album actually exactly two years ago,

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<v Speaker 4>so in July twenty twenty three in Switzerland, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>been out only two days ago, so it's quite fresh

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<v Speaker 4>and we're pretty proud and happy of it. We all

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<v Speaker 4>wrote songs for this for this album, A remember the

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<v Speaker 4>of the each member of the band. So there's like

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of different influences and vibes and this album,

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<v Speaker 4>but I think at the end it all comes together

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<v Speaker 4>very coherently and and yeah nicely. It also goes in

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<v Speaker 4>the direction that we we're looking for, which is a

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<v Speaker 4>blend of many different yeah influences, and yep, we're very

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<v Speaker 4>happy about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just talk to us about those those influences, because we

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<v Speaker 1>can tell from your accents that you are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're from You're from around, not necessarily from South Africa.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are the influences, what are the what what

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<v Speaker 1>what sounds influenced your sound?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So the idea was basically to transcribe music from what

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<v Speaker 3>the fourteenth win on madrigals fourteenth century like the Renaissance

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<v Speaker 3>fifteenth century music, I guess, basically the period of early

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<v Speaker 3>colonialism from Europe music called madrigals and traditional indigenous South

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<v Speaker 3>African music, and to try and blend these sounds together

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<v Speaker 3>using jazz. South African jazz is the kind of theater

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<v Speaker 3>or meeting point between these two forms and contemporary giazz

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<v Speaker 3>as well, because this is the sheard vocabulary between all

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<v Speaker 3>of us. And it was part of a broader sort

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<v Speaker 3>of project that we were awarded through prohibits here. The

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<v Speaker 3>Confluences Grant Proves here is a Swiss funding organization and

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<v Speaker 3>they basically gave us a seed fund to try and

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<v Speaker 3>explore this project. And yeah, the result was basically the

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<v Speaker 3>compositions that we generated for the album. But there's all

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<v Speaker 3>sorts of other influences on their rock, popular music, dance music,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's really like a medley of forms.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say in genres, I wonder.

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<v Speaker 1>How those different musical worlds that you've just described to us,

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<v Speaker 1>how did they speak to each other? Is it presumably

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<v Speaker 1>quite fluently?

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<v Speaker 4>Well? The common thing that Woma didn't mention is the

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<v Speaker 4>improvisation we all jazz musician, and so we share this

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<v Speaker 4>this love and this this interest in improvisation. So in

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<v Speaker 4>a way, the fact that we're composing live, let's say,

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<v Speaker 4>and improvising brings everything together. And at the end we

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<v Speaker 4>just use different elements of those of those different generals

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<v Speaker 4>that wom I mentioned to improvise and to bring the

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<v Speaker 4>music somewhere. But that's what jazz is about anyway. It's

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<v Speaker 4>always using different elements and bringing the music somewhere. So

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<v Speaker 4>we're just doing this again with different elements, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's something interesting in jazz when people bring in

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<v Speaker 4>some new kind of elements from from somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>How then do you how then do you balance that improvisation,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a core part of jazz music obviously, with

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<v Speaker 1>with historical or archive of material that by its very

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<v Speaker 1>nature is fixed.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I would say two things.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say first of all, that traditional indigenous music

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<v Speaker 3>has a very large improvisational component, right, So a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of those forms are rarely repeated patterns, rhythmic, harmonic, melodic patterns,

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<v Speaker 3>and then people kind of improvise inside of those repetitions.

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<v Speaker 3>So already that's a point of I guess, empathetic resonance

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<v Speaker 3>and then I guess a lot of the composed material

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<v Speaker 3>takes place during the melodies, during the main themes, so

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<v Speaker 3>we capitulate a theme and then perhaps have some improvisational

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<v Speaker 3>components and then recapitulate the theme or move onto another

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<v Speaker 3>composed section. So this kind of a balance between composed

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<v Speaker 3>components and improvised components. And I guess traditional indigenous music,

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<v Speaker 3>as I said, is again another theater for enabling points

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<v Speaker 3>of empathetic resonance between all these forms.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us a little bit about tonight's Tonight's launch and

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<v Speaker 1>more audiences can expect tonight, and also, most importantly, how

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<v Speaker 1>they can get hold of tickets.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, actually the launches this afternoon.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, it's at Jazz and the Native Yards in Langa,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a really kind of cool community based project.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, tickets are available on cuicket. They're one and

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<v Speaker 3>eighty rand and the show starts at three pm, so

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<v Speaker 3>we al really hope people come out and enjoy the music.

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<v Speaker 3>It's in a beautiful gallery space that is being developed

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<v Speaker 3>specifically for these sorts of current sets.

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<v Speaker 1>And then in terms of getting hold of the album,

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<v Speaker 1>it was released a couple of days ago, so presumably

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<v Speaker 1>available to download on all digital platforms.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>We decided to go only digital this time, so it's

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<v Speaker 4>on every platform and also on band camp if people

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<v Speaker 4>want to support let's say a bit more than just

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<v Speaker 4>usual streams.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, every platforms and band Camp. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fascinated by by your your your love of jazz.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always interested by by people's love of jazz. And

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<v Speaker 1>we we have such a an incredible talent of young

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<v Speaker 1>people now, young jazz musicians, particularly in Cape Town, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it always interests me because I think people often

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<v Speaker 1>find jazz or there is a perception that it's maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not terribly accessible, or it's it's a difficult genre. Just

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<v Speaker 1>tell me a little bit about your love affair with jazz.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's very interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Last night we were on our way to a concerting

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<v Speaker 3>Musenberg and we're chatting with an uber driver about exactly

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<v Speaker 3>this the sort of jazz scene that is very very

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<v Speaker 3>present in Cape Town and a lot of the horn plays,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess come out of the cups of klopsa tradition

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<v Speaker 3>as well as kind of community based.

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<v Speaker 2>Brass band traditions. So there's very there's a very very

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<v Speaker 2>strong brass band tradition in Cape Town, and I guess

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people come through the ranks through that

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<v Speaker 2>brass band tradition, and as a consequence, in Cape Town

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<v Speaker 2>in particular, we have like one of the strongest saxophone

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<v Speaker 2>and trumpet sections in the country. And that's really something

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<v Speaker 2>that develops organically through sort of grassroots intervention, through these

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<v Speaker 2>brass bands and community based projects. But for myself, it

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<v Speaker 2>was already very long journey towards jazz. I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>listened to it a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot when I was very very young, because my dad

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<v Speaker 3>played a lot of John portraying John McLachlan, Miles Davis,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I.

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<v Speaker 2>Sort of segued into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Did it resonate with you?

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry?

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<v Speaker 1>So did it resonate with you at that age?

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<v Speaker 2>Was that?

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<v Speaker 4>Did it?

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<v Speaker 1>Did it do something to you at that young mash?

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, I mean I was four or five years old.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think most importantly it left a kind of

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<v Speaker 3>emotional memory so that when he visited it later on,

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<v Speaker 3>it was kind of easy to tap into it again. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And I kind of arrived the jazz indirectly through bands

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<v Speaker 3>like Radiohead and portous Head and more Chiba sort of

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<v Speaker 3>pop bands that use a lot of the harmonic, melodic

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<v Speaker 3>and rhythmic material of jazz, but in a more kind

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<v Speaker 3>of accessible way.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard somebody say more chiba for about ten years, voomas.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for that. That takes me back to a time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I'm showing my age right now.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, not at all. I'm so glad that

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's something to listen to in the car on

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<v Speaker 1>the way home. Some more Cheba listen. I'm so excited

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<v Speaker 1>for this, for this launch. The album is called Allegories, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Allegories, Allegories.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry. Yeah, Allegory. People can download it. We're

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to it. Just remind us again you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be at three o'clock Jazz in the Native Yards

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<v Speaker 1>in Langa today.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, at Jazz in the Native Yards three today. Tickets

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<v Speaker 3>are available on cicket for one hundred and eighty rand

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<v Speaker 3>or you can get them at the door for two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred grand.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, get them run, folks, don't walk. Thank you very

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<v Speaker 1>much both for joining us this morning to tell us

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<v Speaker 1>about the launch. A little bit about the background. Voomitian

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<v Speaker 1>Levin on guitar and Teo Deboule, who was also being guitar. Later,

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<v Speaker 1>when the band in Motion launches their album at Jazz

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<v Speaker 1>in the Native Yards,