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Speaker 1: This is capital.

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Speaker 2: We learned from EWN that thirteen high crime areas across

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Speaker 2: the Cape will be the target of the deployment of

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Speaker 2: the South African National Defense Force. One of those areas

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Speaker 2: with the deployment yesterday was Alcas River. Joining me on

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Speaker 2: the line is a spokesperson for the Alcas River Safety Initiative.

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Speaker 2: That's Imran Mukadam. Im Ran A very good morning and

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Speaker 2: welcome to the show Good Morning Africa.

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Speaker 1: In part six sevens as well.

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Speaker 2: All right, what was the experience like having men and

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Speaker 2: women on the ground that we're wearing army fatigue yesterday?

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Speaker 1: Well, there was great expectations and it would appear that

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Speaker 1: the community on Tho is very grateful for the presence

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Speaker 1: of the army. So yes, we've seen him patrolling with

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Speaker 1: sets and reinforcement, so there is a bit of a prison.

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Speaker 1: So though Kah for the moment, it's just just drive

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Speaker 1: through probably even two see hours. So we will once

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Speaker 1: see a constant presence because our area is quite big

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Speaker 1: and I think you know immediately won't We don't see

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Speaker 1: any real difference other than when the army is in

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Speaker 1: the area. He's a immediate calm but strikingly enough yesterday

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Speaker 1: where reports that as soon as the Army lifts one

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Speaker 1: of our areas class estates, the shooting resumed. So so

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Speaker 1: we are concerned that, you know, gangs are not really

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Speaker 1: being intimidated by the Army's prisons or it's not having

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Speaker 1: the impact that we desired. But its early days.

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Speaker 2: It seems that the instruction yesterday and our Operation Prosper

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Speaker 2: was to have the National Defense for supporting the essays

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Speaker 2: in carrying out search warrants and executing arrest warrants as well.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure we're at the stage yet or are

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Speaker 2: we from what you know where there will be a

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Speaker 2: permanent deployment of the National Defense Force at least for

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Speaker 2: a reasonable amount of time.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is where they needed most in terms of,

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Speaker 1: you know, assisting steps with search and seizures as well

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Speaker 1: as with the lists, because you know, seeming to policemen

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Speaker 1: with one then to collect the suspect, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: not practical because you can't secure back instances, you can't

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Speaker 1: really ensure that the suspect doesn't find any escape route.

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Speaker 1: So you definitely need these type of operations if they

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Speaker 1: are going to be assisting with the list. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: that that in terms of steps with the risk that

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Speaker 1: would be welcome. What we need more is search and

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Speaker 1: caesars and encodes me of a well known gang, arts

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Speaker 1: spots and hideouts, and really just going ind and seizing

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Speaker 1: the guns because our biggest problem is the firearms and

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Speaker 1: we need to give these filems off the streets. And

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Speaker 1: if the army can reduce firearm in tims in our

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Speaker 1: communities by at least twenty thirty forty percent, people will

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Speaker 1: immediately bring about the red in the violence. So yes,

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Speaker 1: we we want to see them active.

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Speaker 2: Imran, thank you very much. Indeed, Imran Mokadam from the

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Speaker 2: USA Server Safety Initiative