1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Seven oh two drives. So you heard him a little 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: earlier from Bali Dlamini that presidents saw Rama Pasa welcoming 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: twenty new ambassadors and high commissioners to South Africa. Obviously 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: front and center in a lot of the conversation around 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: this has been the US Ambassador to South Africa, Brent Bozell, 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: amongst those presenting their credentials to President Rama Pasa, Todavid, 7 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: many other countries involved as well, to give you in 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: just a smattering of names before we get into some 9 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: more details with my colleague Alfa Romo, Schwana, Angola, Barbados, Denmark, Ghana, Haiti, Lebanon, Malaysia, Mauritius, Mozambique, Norway, 10 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: the Philippines, and there's some others besides. So let's find 11 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: out then from Alfa Romo Shwana a little bit more 12 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: about the event Alpha Welcome. President Rama Pausa used the 13 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: platform to make some points about international diplomacy, but also 14 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: about what kind of relationships South Africa is looking to 15 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: have with these twenty heads of mission. What were some 16 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: of the key points that he made and how do 17 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: you think those points went down? Goton to you. 18 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: Good afternoon, John, Well you would know that. Ever since 19 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: US President Donald Trump was re elected as the President 20 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 2: of the United States of America, there's been a lot 21 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: of bickering between South Africa and Washington, and it's partially 22 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: because of the diplomatic relationship falling out between the two 23 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: countries and Presidents Litle Rama Forsa emphasizing that South Africa 24 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: has learned a lesson or two about diplomacy, how ambassadors 25 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: should behave when they are deployed or sent to other countries, 26 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: and how other ambassadors should behave here in South Africa. 27 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: You remember, John, that Ibraim Rasul as well was declared 28 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: persona and grata by the American government and had to 29 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: come back to South Africa. And recently Brent Bosell, despite 30 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: having only been here for about two months, has already 31 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: landed in the bad books of the International Relations Department 32 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: here at home. And President Sera Ramaposa says all of 33 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 2: this is because there are ambassadors who do not believe 34 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 2: in engaging peacefully and raising concerns quietly and through official 35 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: diplomatic channels. He has urged the twenty new ambassadors at 36 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: the Presidential guest House today, John to ensure that any 37 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: problem that they raise or that they have with the 38 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: South African government, they raise it through the official channels 39 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: and not through the public or not publicly. I mean, 40 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: of course, referring to Brent Bosell, who recently publicly criticized 41 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: the court ruling on the killed the Boar chant, saying 42 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: that that chant amounts to hate speech and the Constitutional 43 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 2: Court's ruling was wrong. And so the President believes that 44 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 2: in order for diplomatic relationships between America and South Africa 45 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: and any other country really to flourish, diplomats need to 46 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: learn quiet diplomacy and to raise their concerns through the 47 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: official channels. So really he was asking them to be 48 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: quite measured in how they raised your concerns. 49 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: So, I mean, it's very much a formal ceremony. We 50 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: heard in Ambali Tlamini's bulletin the material that you'd sent 51 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: through Ambassador Bozell striking a very conciliatory note. One of 52 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: the things that struck me. I don't know how diplomats 53 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: deal with these kinds of awkwardnesses, if there's such a word. 54 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: But on the one hand, the United States presenting the 55 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: credentials of that country, but Cuba, which is not exactly 56 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: enjoying the warmest of relations with the United States. One 57 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: of the others amongst the twenty who were present, You 58 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: didn't happen to notice if those two ambassadors had a 59 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: quiet chat or kept their distance. 60 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very very quick ceremony today, John, Yes, the 61 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: person president receiving the letters of credence and the credentials 62 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: from the twenty different ambassadors and mission heads. And after 63 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: the event, everyone just peacefully went to their respective homes 64 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: or embassies. You know, I did not see a lot 65 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 2: of them having a quick chat. In fact, most of 66 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 2: them after the President closed the ceremony left immediately. Of course, 67 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: those who hung out, the likes of Brent Bozl who 68 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: would have had a chat with members of the media 69 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 2: and journalists and others from Zimbabwe and African countries who 70 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: stood and spoke to each other for a few minutes. 71 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: But Cuba and the American mission or embassy heads really 72 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 2: did not see them even having a conversation today, So 73 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: it did not feel awkward. But of course we were 74 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: looking forward for looking forward to those conversations, which unfortunately 75 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: never happened. 76 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: Okay, thanks so much, Alfa Ramushwana, EWN reporter, So twenty 77 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: countries presenting their credentials. They didn't all arrive at the 78 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: same time. It's not a sudden flood. I think the 79 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: way it works is they kind of bank up quite 80 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: a few and then they have the ceremony as inclusive 81 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: as possibles. Other countries. I didn't mention Greece, Hungary, Lebanon, Malaysia, 82 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: I don't think I mentioned before, Nize, Norway, the Sarawi 83 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: Arab Democratic Republic in Ukraine and Zimbabwe, and be interesting 84 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: to see how the Ukrainian ambassador goes about his or 85 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: her business. I don't know anything about them, but the 86 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: previous incumbent certainly got very involved in engaging the media 87 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: and trying to get the message of that country across 88 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: to a South African audience. So interesting times twenty five 89 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:48,679 Speaker 1: past three