1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Good morning k Town. 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,199 Speaker 2: Lester Kibbott, starting your day on k Talk. 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Now for ground Up news, and of course there's always 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: every Wednesday, joined by Barbara October, who is the ground 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: Up Editor. Good morning, Barbara. I hope you've had a 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: pleasant and rest for long weekend. 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: Good morning, Lester, I did. I hope you had a 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 2: good weekend too. 9 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: Let's start here where in Raven's Meat backyard, dweller's say 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: they're being sidelined by the city's latest housing project. They're 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: asking questions about the fairness in allocation and who is 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: benefiting from new developments. 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 2: Yes, so they're basically claiming that they are going to 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 2: be sidelined for this new housing project that's being built 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: in the area. It's called the Alsis River Info Project 16 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: and it's you know, the city says it's going to 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: deliver over seven hundred PNG houses, but it's going to 18 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: be built in phases. So part of the phase that 19 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 2: will be built in Ravens Meat only has about forty 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: four houses, and we're told that it's going to be 21 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: taken from the broader alciaster of a area. You know, 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 2: beneficiaries will be from the greater Ravens Meat area. So 23 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: it is up in the air whether or not the 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: over three thousand people that are currently on the waiting 25 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: list in Ravens Meat whether or not they will actually 26 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: benefit from this project. And we know that there will 27 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: be a second phase built in November, but you know, 28 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: I think it includes areas like Eureka Connaught Urns, which 29 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 2: is also the broader al sister of a area. So 30 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: it's not clear whether this development will benefit people living 31 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: in overcrowded and dilapidated backyard structures or you know, if 32 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: it will be for the broader community. 33 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: I mean a story that ground up has been doggedly 34 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: covered is a torture case in the Mobray area twenty 35 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: twenty three. A man, a barber, had caught on his 36 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: CCTV camera in the premises where he works, caught Mowbray 37 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: police actively torturing someone. But that case has been provisionally 38 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: withdrawn even with the very very stark visual CCTV evidence. 39 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: You know what, I was a bit, not a bit. 40 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: I was very disappointed when this outcome happened because you think, 41 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: you know, when we started covering this, we thought, you know, 42 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: this is a slam dunk case. Initially, when police went 43 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: in there to ray. They had no idea that there 44 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: was CCTV footage. So the second all of those all 45 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: of that evidence was handed in and you think it's 46 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: a slam dunk case, but you know, there's multiple postponements 47 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: and eventually last week the case was withdrawn for multiple reasons. 48 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: One they couldn't get hold of an interpreter for Juma, 49 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: who is from Burundi, and because he had been he 50 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: said he felt so unsafe staying in the Western Cape. 51 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 2: He a couple of months after the incident, he moved 52 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 2: to the Eastern Cape and police apparently only phoned him 53 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: a day before the year ring, so by the time 54 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: the matter had been heard, he had also just arrived 55 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: at the court. So you know, the three officers involved 56 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: that are clearly seen on the CCTV footage are now 57 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: still working at various police stations. We are going to 58 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: be following up on this point. But you know that 59 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: there doesn't seem to be any repercussion, and it just 60 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: seems like there's this numb attitude towards a very desperate 61 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: situation in our country at the moment. 62 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: And a great piece but also pictorial essay on the 63 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: lassue to comic caves. It's a great glimpse into a 64 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: unique way of life that's that shape by tradition, that's straight, 65 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: by resilience, but also the limited access to to modern resources. 66 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: Yes, so this is a fascinating story. So we sent 67 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: some of our reporters up to Lasutu and they spent 68 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: time with Nefani, who is the last remaining resident of 69 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 2: these caves, and it's it's fascinating. I definitely would encourage 70 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: people to go and look at the footage because it's 71 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: absolutely fascinating to see this carved outsandstone structures in the 72 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: cliffs of Licitu. And you know, we know that they 73 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: were initially occupied in the early eighteen hundreds for people 74 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: fleeing the Nefhakani wars and famine, but you know there's 75 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: also these they saw these markings that there are evidence 76 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 2: of you know, early humans and rock paintings of you know, 77 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: possible sand people that had you know, settled there and 78 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: moved along. So it's absolutely fascinating. It's currently it's tourist attraction, 79 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: but Nafani remains the only resident living in this cave 80 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: structure and it's absolutely fascinating. 81 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: It's a great pictorial piece and a great essay. 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