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Speaker 1: Car Talk with Melinda Ferguson on weekend Breakfast with Sarah

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Speaker 1: Jane mcqualiking.

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Speaker 2: To France.

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Speaker 3: We go for our car review this week, as that

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Speaker 3: Melinda has been cruising around in the Citron bus Salts.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that I'm pronecting that Basalt, Basalts. I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure am I pronouncing that correctly?

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Speaker 4: It sounds like the way I would basalt. Yeah, Hello,

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Speaker 4: good morning darling.

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Speaker 2: Morning.

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Speaker 3: Listen before we before we delve into cars, can I

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Speaker 3: just say congratulations on your latest book and book launch,

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Speaker 3: which I know that you had in joe Burg this

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Speaker 3: past week at Love Books, and you're going to be

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Speaker 3: launching I want to say at the book lounge. I

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Speaker 3: want to say Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: You're right on April four, on.

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Speaker 3: April Fouresday, Melinda's new book called Swift, and you and

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Speaker 3: I are going to be talking about that, and our

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Speaker 3: France Shook.

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Speaker 4: Just asked for a copy to be sent to you,

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Speaker 4: so hopefully you'll get to you. Yeah, okay, I hope

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Speaker 4: you had the book launch. But anyway, let's let's move

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Speaker 4: on to the Citron.

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Speaker 2: Yes, go.

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Speaker 1: Do you say Citron? How do you say it?

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Speaker 3: I say it in a very British way. Citron, Citron.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Citron, let's go Citron.

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Speaker 3: We meant to say it, by the way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's try the French. But listen, I mean I

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Speaker 4: was up there. We launched the Basalt on on Wednesday

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Speaker 4: or Thursday. Days seemed to have escaped me at the moment.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I stayed over for my launch, but I

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Speaker 4: drove around Joburg in the Basalt while I was there,

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Speaker 4: so I had like an extended and someone's.

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Speaker 1: Trying to call me. Sorry, did you hear that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was me, but it's you. She's on

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Speaker 3: the radio. She's on the radio, dear, yes, go on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And anyway, so long story short, I got to drive

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Speaker 4: the Basalt around quite some quite shoddy shoddy roads. Major

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Speaker 4: Donas there. Hey, So it was like a good, really

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Speaker 4: good test run for me. Citron is such an interesting

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Speaker 4: brand in terms of its hist Street was established in

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Speaker 4: nineteen nineteen. I mean that's a long time ago, just

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Speaker 4: after the end of World War One. Yeah, and this

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Speaker 4: fabulous guy called Andre Citron. He lost his father apparently

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Speaker 4: to suicide when he was just six years old, and

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Speaker 4: he went on to become this like major car historical

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Speaker 4: kind of icon. When he established Citron, he was very

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Speaker 4: he was very inspired by Jules Vern apparently, and so

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Speaker 4: he wanted to, you know, like make something that was adventurous,

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Speaker 4: and so came He was a brilliant engineer, really, and

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Speaker 4: he came up with this car brand which did incredibly well,

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Speaker 4: you know, back in those days. But let's just fast

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Speaker 4: forward to twenty sixteen where Citron actually left the country

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Speaker 4: in South Africa was not doing well and we didn't

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Speaker 4: have Citrone for about five years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then.

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Speaker 4: In twenty twenty one there was a huge, huge news

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Speaker 4: and news across the world when Stilantis was formed. We've

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Speaker 4: often spoken about Stilantis and Citron became one of the

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Speaker 4: many brands that Fiat and Pergio put together. That there's Opal,

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Speaker 4: there's Fiat, there's Alfa Romea, there's Citron, obviously, there's Dodge,

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Speaker 4: Crys of Pergo. They're all these different car brands that

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Speaker 4: became under it came under their umbrella of Stalante's and

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Speaker 4: we definitely have a very strong footprint now of Citron

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Speaker 4: in South Africa.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to think off the top of my head.

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Speaker 3: The air Cross, Yeah, air Cross, so that's the SEA three.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly it.

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Speaker 4: So you've got the C three and this Basalt is

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Speaker 4: based on the same platform, so that aircrafts is kind

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Speaker 4: of the suv across, so the suv version of the

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Speaker 4: C three. And now they've got a basalt which is

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Speaker 4: actually very similar to to the C three aircraft. So

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Speaker 4: you were on the money that they've got a.

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Speaker 1: Like bought back. It's a sportback shape if you look.

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Speaker 2: At that kind of I see it.

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Speaker 1: So they've come in with a whole new shape there.

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Speaker 4: So the C three little section now for Citra and

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Speaker 4: now has the C three, the C three aircraft and

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Speaker 4: this basalt.

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Speaker 3: Can I say that the that often this happens often

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Speaker 3: when we when we do a car that I'm not familiar,

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Speaker 3: whether it's a new car, and I happily type it

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Speaker 3: into Google and say Google images, and what comes up

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Speaker 3: the way that a photograph is taken often does not

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Speaker 3: do does not portray the reality because the way that

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at this, it looked like at first blush,

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Speaker 3: a sort of a sort of ubery type thing, like

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Speaker 3: a bit of a you know, a bit of a workhorse.

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Speaker 3: And then as you're telling me about it, I can

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Speaker 3: and tell that it's not that. And actually the pictures

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Speaker 3: are not doing it justice at all because the minute

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Speaker 3: you say you throw C three into the mix, I

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Speaker 3: don't go, oh no, okay, nothing like that.

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Speaker 4: And the sports it looks like it looks like For me,

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Speaker 4: I said, oh my word, it looks like a kind

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Speaker 4: of cheaper version of the BMW. Yes, yes, X that

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Speaker 4: like sports exactly.

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad you said that.

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Speaker 3: I love when you say what I'm thinking because it

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Speaker 3: makes me feel like I'm not a total fool, because

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Speaker 3: that is exactly what I was like, Gosh, this is

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Speaker 3: a little bit like the BMW Yes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so I was quite amassed. But it looks

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Speaker 1: I have to say.

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Speaker 4: The one thing that I thought was not quite design

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Speaker 4: wise making the picture perfect was that it's it's it's

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Speaker 4: wheels felt like they were too small for this rather

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Speaker 4: large exactly.

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Speaker 2: What you mean, I'm looking at a picture.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like those wheels are not

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Speaker 4: big enough if they need it to be bigger, and

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Speaker 4: if they were just bigger, they would really take a stance.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: That was for me and my partner Ferdie. We both

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Speaker 4: were like, there's something that's not balanced properly, but overall

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Speaker 4: it's actually a really good looking car.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and you know what, I'm sorry, that's normally my

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Speaker 3: first question isn't it? But what are we what is

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Speaker 3: it going up against? What are our options if we're

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Speaker 4: So this is this huge segment, this B segment, this

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Speaker 4: crossover SUV segment. It's where players like the Toyota Starlet Cross,

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Speaker 4: the Suzuki Francs, the Ness and Magnet there Renner Kaiger,

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Speaker 4: this Kia Sonnet, the Hyundai venue, they were all in

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Speaker 4: this kind of very populated segment where apparently fifty five

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Speaker 4: percent of the market is being spent here, thirty five

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Speaker 4: car market, new passenger car market is here in this

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Speaker 4: very segment. Okay, yeah, I mean, I mean I thought,

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Speaker 4: I think everyone's trying, you know, so, so those are

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Speaker 4: the rivals for me.

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Speaker 1: I really did like its looks.

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Speaker 4: Then the wheels started, the wheel started getting.

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Speaker 1: To my mind.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so basically I was. But but what I really liked,

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Speaker 4: and I think this is really the nuts and bolts

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Speaker 4: of whether one a car is actually good or not

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Speaker 4: is its engine it's got a fantastic unchy one point

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Speaker 4: two liter turbo charge petrol goes to eighty one killer

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Speaker 4: watts two hundred and five newton meters of talk. It's

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Speaker 4: got a six speed automatic, and I must say we

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Speaker 4: drove it. It had lovely power. We went on some pretty

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Speaker 4: shoddy roads. It had good overtaking kind of ability. It

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Speaker 4: was very suspension wise. It felt excellent, like bitter sorry

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Speaker 4: than its rivals. For me, if I had to have

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Speaker 4: gotten out of the Toyota Starlet Cross and the Suzuki France,

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Speaker 4: which are both the same cars they just badged because

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Speaker 4: of that Toyota Suzuki agreement. Yeah, those two are the

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Speaker 4: same cars, and if I got into the bassualt is

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Speaker 4: a noticeable difference in terms of just feeling more safe

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Speaker 4: and more sturdy.

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Speaker 2: I gather it's the son safety.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the Sonnet for me is the one that

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Speaker 4: I would find it hardest to choose between the two,

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Speaker 4: because that kiir Son it's really good as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. I've just had another look again. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: and I'm just saying this because really just a note

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Speaker 3: to Citron, you might want to change the picture that

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Speaker 3: you've got on your website folks, because it really does

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Speaker 3: not do this car justice. I'm just looking now at

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Speaker 3: a video which you can see a lot better, and

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Speaker 3: it seems to have quite a bit of height. It's

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Speaker 3: a lot bigger than I think it looked like, Oh,

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Speaker 3: the guy's going in the boot four hundred and seventy

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Speaker 3: liters of boot space.

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Speaker 2: So this video tells me, yeah, that's not bad. It's

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Speaker 2: a really big I was shocked.

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Speaker 4: By how big the boot was. It was really good.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I had some stuff in there and it

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Speaker 4: was really cool. It's got this kind of the led

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Speaker 4: headlamps are also really nice. I have to say, there's

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Speaker 4: these very elegant daytime running lights. You know what they've

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Speaker 4: done is they've kept its French flare. Yeah, there is

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Speaker 4: a definite feeling of French flare, French design.

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Speaker 1: You've got the inside, let's let's just take them all.

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Speaker 2: It looks very very simple, but classy.

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Speaker 1: Very well laid out.

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Speaker 4: I have to say, you've got this very nice multi

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Speaker 4: functional steering wheel. I'm loving those kinds of things. I

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Speaker 4: do a lot of the volume changing things on my

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Speaker 1: It's very easy.

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Speaker 4: Rather than reaching towards the entertainment system. And you've also

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Speaker 4: got physical climate control buttons, which is always my face

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Speaker 4: so I can actually.

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Speaker 1: You know, see what I'm doing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's keyless entry, push button start, electric

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Speaker 4: windows obviously in the front and rear. And then you've

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Speaker 4: got very good safety two ISO fixed points. You've got

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Speaker 4: that's that electric stability and ESP. What does the piece

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Speaker 4: stand for, Oh gosh.

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Speaker 1: I think ees CESP.

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Speaker 4: Apparently they're the same, so it's it's electric stability control.

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Speaker 4: You've got ABS EBD and yeah program so it's the

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Speaker 4: same as e SC. And then you've got your tire

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Speaker 4: pressure monitoring system, which is something I absolutely love when

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Speaker 4: I have to go and gravel. I'm always obsessed that

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Speaker 4: I'm having a puncture. So that that's really good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I sometimes get up the connection.

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Speaker 2: No, I know you too too, Yeah, yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: it's a Leo thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm six airbags, Sarah, six airbag I like that,

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Speaker 4: and yeah, and lovely rear park senses. So I mean

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Speaker 4: there's quite a lot of good safety in this car.

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Speaker 2: I'm really liking this.

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Speaker 3: I tell you, what does it come in different trim

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Speaker 3: levels because the one that I'm looking at here, and

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Speaker 3: I think it's because I've got children and the state

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Speaker 3: of my car most of the time is appalling. It's

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Speaker 3: so important to me to have leather seats that everything's

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Speaker 3: just wipeable. But I'm looking at fabric here does it come?

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Speaker 3: Is there an option of something leather? I do like

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Speaker 3: a little leather.

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Speaker 4: Not in this class, darling, I mean, what do you think?

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Speaker 2: Even faux leather some fleather.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure that it actually has got.

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Speaker 2: That awful covers.

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Speaker 4: But there are two trim levels, the Plus.

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Speaker 2: No, do you want me to guess now?

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Speaker 4: me try Citron's the salt. Okay, now this feels like this,

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Speaker 4: So it's really a lot of people don't do enough

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Speaker 3: Now, can I tell you when I was preggers with

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Speaker 2: I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: To go wrong with it. It's going to be expensive

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Speaker 3: You know, you get into a mindset which isn't which

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Speaker 1: And basically, like I got.

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Speaker 4: And I was ready to like do a banklone.

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Speaker 1: I promised you.

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Speaker 4: I went because there was something about that green Steve

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Speaker 4: McQueen bullet that did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, mad, Sorry, I mean people are listening saying like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly, all right, Sorry, where are we at?

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, and being told we need to hurry up? Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: let's go to price. Okay, Oh gosh, four hundred and

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Speaker 2: That's a lazy gas. I've not really thought about that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, for the Plus, the Plus one point two turbo

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Speaker 4: there's a very little bit of difference there. And I

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not trying to sell phone.

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Speaker 3: No, no, sure, but i mean, yeah, okay, what are

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Speaker 3: you giving out of ten?

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Speaker 2: Mel?

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Speaker 4: I'm giving it a very good eight out of ten.

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Speaker 4: I was much impressed, A solid eight.

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Speaker 2: It is a Citron Basalt. There we go, Thank you

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Speaker 2: very much. Indeed, mail