1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Monday to Friday Friday from nine am. This is Fews 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: and News with Clarence Ford only on cap Talk. It 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: is ten forty two. Welcome, Deb How are you doing? 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Are you going away for the weekend. 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 2: I'm not going away for the weekend. I'm staying put 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: in our beautiful mother city. I'm just loving Cape Town 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 2: right now. You know, listening to those voice notes come in, Clarence, 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: the tapestry, you called it, the tapestry of our city. 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: We are such a beautifully varied and so amusing, aren't 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: we as a society? I just love it. I was 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: cackling away listening to those Yeah, no. 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 3: We are, which is so beautifully diverse, and we should 13 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: take greater pride in it and celebrate each other and 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: us as a collective. No, absolutely, sitting here, you really 15 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 3: get it, You really get that advantage point of the 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: cosmopolitan brilliants of Cata. But Debs, your your work is important. 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 3: Your work is absolutely important. And I was suggesting that 18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: we are colluding with the Santa Shoe Box Project constantly 19 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 3: because we want to see the joy in young people's 20 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 3: eyes every single here. We also know that you're entering 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 3: one of your most critical phases of the Why is 22 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 3: April so critical for the Santa Shoe Box project? 23 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: Thank you for colluding because indeed the seventh of April 24 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: marks the date on which the project opens to receive 25 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 2: applications for Santa Shoe boxes for the children enrolled in 26 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: largely educational and care facilities, so the caregivers, the principles, 27 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 2: the teachers. So in a form on our website Santa 28 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: shoe Box dot org dot dre, we receive those applications 29 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: until I think it's the twenty third of April that 30 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: we close, and then we start vetting all of these 31 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: incredible applications against wies of measures we have to unfortunately, 32 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: because the need still far outweighs our ability to meet 33 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: that need, so we vet applications rather have facilities received before. 34 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: Are they supported by other organizations? What are the school 35 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: fees that are paid? Where are these facilities based in 36 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 2: South Africa? Do we have a donor base who can 37 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: provide the shoe boxes being applied for. We have conversations, 38 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: amazing conversations with the largely women who run the educational 39 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 2: space within our country as to how we can bring 40 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 2: this all about, how we can connect donors with beneficiaries 41 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 2: one on one, keeping it beautifully personal and ensuring that 42 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: all the efforts are not wasted, are not whittled away 43 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: at are not diluted, and do exactly what we say 44 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: we're going to do, which is connect a person of 45 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: privilege with a young child in need and make sure 46 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: that that impact is as powerful as possible. 47 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 48 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 3: And I know there's a word a philanthropic that comes 49 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: to mind, but this is beyond philanthropy, isn't it. 50 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: It's a calling, it really is, you know, service delivery. Gosh, 51 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: if I have to hear that phrase one more time, 52 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 2: I mean, it just makes my hackles rise, don't it. 53 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: But the Santa Shoe Box Project delivers. We underpromise and 54 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: over deliver every single year. And Karen, sit down, it's 55 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: twenty years. It's our twentieth birthday this year. You know. 56 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: Oh that makes me feel Yeah, and. 57 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: One would imagine that, you know, it would have become 58 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: a machine that people would understand implicitly what you represent. 59 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: And I would be there. 60 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: But it gets more difficult as time progresses as well. 61 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: But let's let's talk about twenty years. You've delivered over 62 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 3: one point three five million personalized shoe boxes since two 63 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 3: thousand and six, and of course the April window that 64 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 3: you've spoken about is where the magic begins for the beneficiaries. 65 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: I suspect there are people. 66 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: Listening that don't know what these shoe boxes are all about. 67 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: Tell us what they mean. 68 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: You know, it's a very peculiar conversation to continue having 69 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 2: into the twenty first century. The fact that there are 70 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: children growing up in homes where if there is a toothbrush, 71 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: it is often shared by six or seven members of 72 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 2: the family. A Santa shoe box is exactly what you 73 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 2: said a few minutes ago. It's a gift of dignity, 74 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: of possibility. It touches on education, basic hygiene, and of 75 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: course treats. These are children. So the eight prescribed items 76 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: that are the minimum requirement in every Santa shoe box toothpaste, toothbrush, facecluff, soap, 77 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: school supplies for the school year ahead, So not eight pencil. 78 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 2: We're talking about the supply that will see a child 79 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: through their education for that following academic years. So we're 80 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: talking about twenty twenty seven toys. These are kids, come 81 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: on sweet and an outfit of clothing. At the end 82 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: of the year. We know how important that is for 83 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: many families in South Africa to be able to have 84 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: their kids show up in a brand new outfit of 85 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 2: clothing on Christmas Day. It's a story we're telling. That's 86 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: our theme for the air, Our beautiful story. It's a 87 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: story we're telling about not perpetuating the intergenerational cycle of 88 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: poverty in children who have no they had no culpability. 89 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: They really are and I hate the word victim, but 90 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: they are the victims here. We cannot expect kids to 91 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: succeed as adults, as members contributing to our economy if 92 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: they don't start off with a solid educational footing. And 93 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: I'm talking early childhood development. It's too late to start 94 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 2: having a conversation about improving education in high school. We're 95 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: starting at ecd level that gives kids the very best chance. 96 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 2: And it's so easy to do. One on one. You know, 97 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: you choose Clarence, you pop on to our website every year, 98 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 2: you choose a child. You know that the box that 99 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: you pack for Mary, she's seven, she's going to receive 100 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: and can you imagine that face lighting up? You've got 101 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 2: to come with me one year. You know you haven't 102 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: done it yet to a celebration. 103 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: My hand is up, use me as you see fit. 104 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 3: Let's talk about twenty years. Yeah, has the profile of 105 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 3: the child in need changed in the twenty years? 106 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: Is there greater need? 107 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: That's such a difficult question because I have to say this. 108 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 2: You know, every year we get asked the question, do 109 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 2: white children also receive Santa shoe boxes? 110 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: Yes? 111 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: Is the short answer. But please, can we just focus 112 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: on the demographic of South Africa children in need? Are 113 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: children in need? I absolutely refuse to talk as it 114 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: doesn't come into my vetting of eligibility or need. But Clarence, yes, 115 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: the need has grown, it hasn't shrunk, And I don't 116 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: want to point fingers. I just want to say everybody 117 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: can do something about that need. So, and of course 118 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: the need that you address is the need in your community. 119 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: So look around you in April, look at the early 120 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: childhood development centers, the primary schools, the high schools, the 121 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: places of safety in your community and nominate them. Go 122 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: and speak to them to say, now's your chance. Now's 123 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: your window to apply. Because your box that you donate, 124 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: the organization that your company nominates to receive shoe boxes, 125 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: and that your company packs as a team for will 126 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: receive those shoe boxes. You're making an impact on your doorstep. 127 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: That's a powerful Story's. 128 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: Beyond the boxes as as well. 129 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 3: Let me just remind everybody we are talking to the 130 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 3: Santa Shoe Box CEO Debbie Lesniak. The project accepting new 131 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: beneficiary applications in April. It's a very critical month for them. Effectively, 132 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: it is the foundations of the joy that they will 133 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: bring at the end of the year. 134 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: But there's more to it beyond the boxes. Debs. 135 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: You've you've built several schools, you've trained thousands of teachers. 136 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 3: How do you see that legacy side of the project 137 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: evolving in the next five years? 138 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: You know, yesterday I had a meeting about exactly this. 139 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: I see it evolving with beautiful partnerships. The last two 140 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: schools we built were entirely self funded, which is fantastic, 141 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 2: I mean, and that funding comes from the sale the 142 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: pledging of virtual Santa Shoe boxes. I'm not going to 143 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: go into too much detail there because it's the nuts 144 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: and bolts, right, it's all on the website Santa Shoe 145 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: Box dot org dot But for me, a legacy is collaborative. 146 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 2: It's bringing people in who organizations largely who have socio 147 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: economic development budgets to allocate to infrastructure in education, to 148 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: training in education, to literacy in education. You can't build 149 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: the future of our economy on children who cannot read 150 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: for meaning at the age of ten. We must address it, 151 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: and we know it's incentivized. Organizations who support public benefit organizations, 152 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 2: which the Center Shoe Box Project is, can write that donation, 153 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: that financial support, even the support that they provide in 154 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 2: terms of goods and services off against the Section eighteen 155 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: eight tax deductible receipts. The legacy that we're building it endures. 156 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 2: We build schools from bricks and mortar in rural areas 157 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: where children we're attending school for want of a better description, 158 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: in cattle krolls. I mean, that's what I've seen and 159 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: that's what we are addressing. We are building eco toilet 160 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 2: blocks for children and the faculty that teach them in 161 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: places where previously there was one peplutine. Now, I don't 162 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: want to go into that terribly, terribly tragic story, but 163 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 2: we can do better. And the Santa Shoe Box Project 164 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: is well possessioned to be an implementation partner in all 165 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: of those aspects. 166 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it makes me think, just given the recent 167 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: G twenty Global Inequality report as well, this is we've 168 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 3: got to move beyond, and I think corporates as were 169 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 3: got to move beyond just pledging boxes to help bridge 170 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 3: that massive inequality gap in this country. 171 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: And you have a means for corporates to do exactly that. 172 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 2: We entirely do and with a theme our beautiful story. 173 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: This word our. It's not mine and my teens, it's ours. 174 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: It's the community that has chosen to engage with this project. 175 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: It starts with the decision makers of multinationals. It goes 176 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,719 Speaker 2: through the media with fantastic human beings. What did you 177 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 2: say you're doing? You're proselytizing the statas shoe box projects. 178 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 2: It goes to the momon pop shops, the book clubs, 179 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: the schools that are privileged enough to be able to 180 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 2: nominate an underprivileged school to support with Santa Shoe boxes, 181 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: with virtual Santa Shoe boxes, there's this amazing cycle of 182 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: regenerative blessing and sharing and uplifting and yes, we invite 183 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 2: everybody to tell our beautiful story together. That's what it's 184 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: all about this year in our twentieth year. 185 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: Okay, let's get back to the April rush. 186 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 3: Essentially, what this rush is about Satas Shoe Box receives 187 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: applications for three times the number of boxes that they 188 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 3: can actually distributes, and the hardest part of that vedding 189 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 3: process during during this April window is it's just that maybe. 190 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: You should just alert us to how. 191 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 3: Where the applications come from, who the recipients are, and 192 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: you know why you can't kind of fulfill all the needs. 193 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: My dream is for the need to be less, not 194 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: for the number of shoe boxes to increase. That's my 195 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 2: real dream. Imagine if the need wasn't really there, wouldn't 196 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: that be a win for everybody. 197 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: I can. Regenerative is the word that's you see. 198 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: It's a theme for the for the for the month. Certainly, 199 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: so we prefer we choose very carefully because you have 200 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 2: to focus in the NPO sector, otherwise your message is diluted. 201 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: We choose to work with largely educational and care facilities 202 00:12:55,960 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: that have a roster of the children enrolled in their 203 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: care because when you, Clarence, choose Jane as your beneficiary child. 204 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: My team, the Santa Shoe Box Project team undertakes to 205 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: make that exact story come to fruitions. So when we 206 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: look at, for example, soup kitchens or community endeavors, there 207 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 2: are no attendance registers, so I then can't make sure 208 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: that Jane is going to be there in November when 209 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: we've received the box. It also speaks very loudly to 210 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: what we are so passionate about. And I'll say it again, 211 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: early childhood development. Get to speak to those children as 212 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: young as possible, look them in their eyes, their bright, 213 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: sparkly eyes, and acknowledge their incredible potential. It doesn't, though, 214 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: exclude the high school kid, because we also focus on 215 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 2: grade seven, knowing that those children are going to be 216 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 2: entering high school next year, and in fact on grade eleven, 217 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: almost as a reward for staying in school and graduating 218 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: from grade twelve, looking ahead to a tertiary qualification, just 219 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 2: knowing that the world is literally an oyster. Apply yourself 220 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: and you have as good a chance as a privileged 221 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 2: child of succeeding. 222 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: And we need a touch point. 223 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 3: We need to know how to apply to become a 224 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: center shoe box beneficial organization. We need to know how 225 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 3: we can get closer to the action in terms of 226 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: what you are doing and what we need to do. 227 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: In April. 228 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: Log onto our website Santa shoe Box dot org dot A. 229 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: There'll be a huge banner image saying click here to 230 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: apply now. There is a rigorous application form. We ask 231 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: for lots of information because our vetting process is just 232 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: as rigorous. An incomplete form is not going to make 233 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 2: you eligible to apply to receive Santa Shoe boxes. So 234 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: make sure you've got all the information that you need. 235 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 2: A an't your address, your contact details, make sure they're 236 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: kept up to date, the number of children in your care, 237 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: where you're at in South Africa, the work you do, 238 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 2: the specific needs you may have around, for example, toilet 239 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: facilities and the number of books in your facility. We 240 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: are so excited to have these conversations with the two 241 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand plus women employed in the ECD 242 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: sector who are game changes. This is where you go 243 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: Santa Shoebox. Don't dog does that apply now from the 244 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: seventh of April. Don't try and apply before that, it's 245 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 2: not going to happen, and make sure you do so. 246 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: Please before the closing date of the twenty third of April. 247 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: We're going to have to wrap it there. 248 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 3: But every Thursday we celebrate the intentional, thankless world and 249 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 3: work of our everyday heroes and debs. Zalizniak, our guest 250 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 3: today is representing Santa Shoe Box. Just maybe there's a 251 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 3: contribution that you can make.