Speaker 1: Weekend breakfast with Sarah Jane Marguala King on Talk on
Speaker 1: cat Talk. All right, then let's start with our top
Speaker 1: picks for this Saturday. And if you couldn't get up
Speaker 1: to any Mandela things today, then there's still a chance
Speaker 1: to contribute today with your sixty seven minutes, join the
Speaker 1: Two Oceans Aquarium and Cape Talk at Sunset Beach for
Speaker 1: a winter trash bash beach cleanup. It starts at nine o'clock.
Speaker 1: It's running until eleven and our very own Zane Johnson
Speaker 1: will be there and he sent us this voice note
Speaker 1: with the details.
Speaker 2: It's a very good morning to you, Sarah Jane, and
Speaker 2: once again it is time for our trash bash. Together
Speaker 2: with the Two Ocean Seaquarium and with Cape Talk, we
Speaker 2: will be trash bashing the beach out at Sunset Beach
Speaker 2: and that's out in the Moniton area earlier this morning
Speaker 2: at about nine o'clock. Now, a plastic pollution is something
Speaker 2: that is very very prevalent around the Cape Coast and
Speaker 2: the Two Oceans Aquarian frequently disentangled Cape first seals insnalled
Speaker 2: by plastic cords, cables, ropes, and discarded fishing gear. Seabirds
Speaker 2: also get caught up with fishing line and plastic cords.
Speaker 2: And then they also regularly rescue turcles that have been
Speaker 2: ingesting plastic or being entangled in discarded fishing gear. Some
Speaker 2: estimates say that by twenty fifty there will be more
Speaker 2: plastic by weight than fish in the ocean. And this
Speaker 2: is what we need to prevent. It's that sense of
Speaker 2: getting involved. Getting down here to Sunset Beach at about
Speaker 2: nine o'clock this morning and together with the two Ocean
Speaker 2: Saquarium and Cape Talk five six seven, we'll be doing
Speaker 2: a trash pash. Now, last time we were out at a
Speaker 2: trash pash, we found a discarded tire, We found a
Speaker 2: dovey cover that was discarded on the beach, and also
Speaker 2: a number of smaller minor plastics which also come down
Speaker 2: from our rivers and our estuaries into the ocean, such
Speaker 2: as earbuds, a number of other things that are discarded, needles,
Speaker 2: and quite a few other things that you find on
Speaker 2: the beach, plastic packets of chips. These are all single
Speaker 2: use plastics and are not biodegradable, and instead of forming
Speaker 2: part of the natural system again, plastic breaks up infinitely
Speaker 2: and a single use water bottle will break into smaller
Speaker 2: pieces and those smaller pieces will then be ingested by
Speaker 2: marine life. Make sure that you come down to Sunset
Speaker 2: Beach this morning at nine o'clock and make sure that
Speaker 2: you bring the children along with because it is their
Speaker 2: heritage that we should be living and the legacy that
Speaker 2: we should be fulfilling, and bring them along at school holidays.
Speaker 2: I'd love to see everybody down there this morning. That's
Speaker 2: nine o'clock at Sunset Beach, together with the Two Oceans
Speaker 2: Aquarium and of course Cape Talk. You don't have to
Speaker 2: bring along with anything, just a couple of very comfortable
Speaker 2: walking shoes along the beach or a couple of wellys.
Speaker 2: We'll give you a plastic bag. We'll even give you
Speaker 2: the gloves to make sure that you are safe. And
Speaker 2: that is our trash besh with the Two Oceans Aquerium
Speaker 2: at nine o'clock at Sunseeed Beach this morning.
Speaker 1: Thanks very much. Indeed, Zaane, there you are. If you
Speaker 1: want to get out into nature this morning and do
Speaker 1: your bit for Mandela Day, then go and catch up
Speaker 1: with Saint Johnson at Sunset Beach and join the Two
Speaker 1: Oceans Aquarium and Cape Talk for our winter trash bash,
Speaker 1: beach cleanup all right until the second of August, which
Speaker 1: is two Saturday's time, you can catch Unruly at the
Speaker 1: Baxter Studio. It delves into baboon politics, which divides a
Speaker 1: community seeking answers, and theater makers say it explores how
Speaker 1: we can understand the issue from multiple perspectives, painting in
Speaker 1: the process a rich picture of the Cape Peninsula's complex
Speaker 1: history and shared ecology of mountain, ocean, urban and military environments.
Speaker 1: Joining me on the line to give us more details
Speaker 1: is the director of Unruly, Neil Coppin. Very good morning
Speaker 1: to Neil, and thanks so much for joining us. Now
Speaker 1: that the play is based on an awful lot of
Speaker 1: academic and also creative research, tell us a little bit more.
Speaker 3: Well, We run a company called the Amphitheater and it
Speaker 3: is a research unit as much as a theater company.
Speaker 3: So we do up to three four years of research
Speaker 3: before we begin to devise theater out of the research.
Speaker 3: And we believe, you know, what's the point of doing
Speaker 3: all this research if it can't be shared back with
Speaker 3: the communities that has emerged from and be used to
Speaker 3: kind of create constructive, more empathetic dialogue with one another.
Speaker 3: So we use theater in quite a strategic way. And
Speaker 3: then the research we do was done in collaboration with
Speaker 3: the Stockholm University the Resilient Center that we're doing a
Speaker 3: survey at the time and wanted to use theater to
Speaker 3: help kind of articulate the findings back to communities in
Speaker 3: the South Peninsula. But we also as a company to
Speaker 3: our own research into historic archives. We look at the
Speaker 3: mythology years of the area. How you know, baboons are
Speaker 3: obviously behind this place, so we go deep into how
Speaker 3: do South Africans understand these creatures? What are our kind
Speaker 3: of belief systems around him? So it's a very kind
Speaker 3: of complex and comprehensive research process before we begin to
Speaker 3: devise a story to share back with people. And and
Speaker 3: really as a result of that.
Speaker 1: And theatre luminary Andrew bucklans Stars of course once it
Speaker 1: been like working working with Andrew on the piece.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think I, like hundreds of different theater
Speaker 3: makers and performers around this country have been grown up
Speaker 3: watching Andrew and have been so deeply influenced by buyers
Speaker 3: work in his storytelling. So I was nine years old
Speaker 3: when I first met him. I was selling programs at
Speaker 3: a Grand SUSI too sober, and I first saw this
Speaker 3: man on stage and obviously was in all way ever since.
Speaker 3: So the chance to finally get to collaborate with him
Speaker 3: in my old aide and you know, Andrew's been very
Speaker 3: involved in the research, not just as an actor, but
Speaker 3: sof and I see it to make it so we're
Speaker 3: rarely over the last three or four years journey together
Speaker 3: on the story in a way that's also forms the
Speaker 3: most beautiful friendship. And I admire him so much, and
Speaker 3: obviously in such a complex if you like this, to
Speaker 3: have a former that has so much humanity and empathy
Speaker 3: for all perspectives, I think it's a very important starting point.
Speaker 3: And he's he's just a joy and a friend, and
Speaker 3: I think, you know, I've just been so moved to
Speaker 3: see wherever we perform, the amounts of people that come
Speaker 3: up to him and say, you changed my life. When
Speaker 3: I was growing up, I had a picture of you
Speaker 3: on my walls with you know, I went into theater
Speaker 3: because of you. He's had such a huge impact on
Speaker 3: so many to africans lives.
Speaker 1: And of course there's a musical element to the show.
Speaker 1: Courtesy of Chantelle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chanta Willie Peterson is the most extraordinary double basis.
Speaker 3: And we wrote a double bass into the story and
Speaker 3: a character that played it, and we searched the country
Speaker 3: for you know, it needed to be a very particular character,
Speaker 3: and we found Chantelle and obviously sometimes well known, she's
Speaker 3: just extraordinary. She's plays with Erica Badoo and Stevie Wonder
Speaker 3: and just have the most rich musical life. And to
Speaker 3: have it on stage accompanying Andrew with the double bass
Speaker 3: as such a such a beautiful form of storytelling. It's
Speaker 3: not a one man show. It's definitely a two person
Speaker 3: using music as a kind of response as a character
Speaker 3: in itself.
Speaker 1: Neil, what are you hoping that people take away from
Speaker 1: the play?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, you know, looking at the situation on
Speaker 3: the ground, and I think everyone has a kind of
Speaker 3: fatigue around it because it's been so ongoing, humans interacting
Speaker 3: with the boons. How do we learn to live with
Speaker 3: each other and coexist? What are the answers? You know,
Speaker 3: everyone's searching answers. And I think this is a kind
Speaker 3: of microcosm of a much much bigger questions we as
Speaker 3: humans face into the future around how we live alongside
Speaker 3: not just other creatures, but each other. And I think
Speaker 3: the play rarely tries to unpack that and all its
Speaker 3: complexity that comes with that. You know, it's not trying
Speaker 3: to reduce it. It looks at, obviously the polar opposites
Speaker 3: that have emerged in this situation and all political situations
Speaker 3: of any sort. But I think it asked much bigger
Speaker 3: questions about how we live a community than you know,
Speaker 3: ask the questions who's unruly here? Is it the baboons
Speaker 3: or is it they're humans? And I think the play
Speaker 3: tries to propose much more provocative questions. It doesn't try
Speaker 3: to fit in the binary of the situation, but rarely
Speaker 3: get stuck into the murky in between parts that we
Speaker 3: don't like to talk about because they make us perhaps
Speaker 3: a little more uncomfortable or cause us to have to
Speaker 3: force force us to shift our position of it. And
Speaker 3: I think we don't like shifting positions that we hold
Speaker 3: on something, And the play really asked us to empathetically
Speaker 3: step into very different perspectives and try to form kind
Speaker 3: of much more compassionate response to each other and the
Speaker 3: other creatures that we live alongside.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I always think that's there to such a
Speaker 1: remarkable vehicle for that, for easing people into the discomfort
Speaker 1: and being confronting in a way that means they can't
Speaker 1: get up and walk out. Essentially, Neil, good to have
Speaker 1: you with us this morning, Thanks very much. Indeed, folks,
Speaker 1: you can get your tickets via web tickets. It's for
Speaker 1: fourteen years and older. Tickets are two hundred and forty rand.
Speaker 1: Performances on Tuesday to Saturday at eight o'clock and then
Speaker 1: a Saturday performance at hof Post two. And you can
Speaker 1: get in touch with the Yeah with a theater directly
Speaker 1: for block bookings or school bookings that is unruly at
Speaker 1: the Baxter Studio. And then finally tomorrow you can meditate
Speaker 1: over tea in a traditional Chinese tea ceremony which is
Speaker 1: being hosted at Zen Studio in Yeska's tea house in
Speaker 1: hout Bay. How can you get in touch with her? Well,
Speaker 1: cuickt one hundred and eighty rand or three hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty round for a couple. And yeah, it's a weekly
Speaker 1: meditation over tea and it's happening at the Zens Studio
Speaker 1: in hout Bake