WEBVTT - SJ's Top Picks

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<v Speaker 1>Weekend breakfast with Sarah Jane Marguala King on Talk on

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<v Speaker 1>cat Talk. All right, then let's start with our top

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<v Speaker 1>picks for this Saturday. And if you couldn't get up

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<v Speaker 1>to any Mandela things today, then there's still a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to contribute today with your sixty seven minutes, join the

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<v Speaker 1>Two Oceans Aquarium and Cape Talk at Sunset Beach for

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<v Speaker 1>a winter trash bash beach cleanup. It starts at nine o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>It's running until eleven and our very own Zane Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>will be there and he sent us this voice note

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<v Speaker 1>with the details.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very good morning to you, Sarah Jane, and

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<v Speaker 2>once again it is time for our trash bash. Together

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<v Speaker 2>with the Two Ocean Seaquarium and with Cape Talk, we

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<v Speaker 2>will be trash bashing the beach out at Sunset Beach

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<v Speaker 2>and that's out in the Moniton area earlier this morning

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<v Speaker 2>at about nine o'clock. Now, a plastic pollution is something

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<v Speaker 2>that is very very prevalent around the Cape Coast and

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<v Speaker 2>the Two Oceans Aquarian frequently disentangled Cape first seals insnalled

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<v Speaker 2>by plastic cords, cables, ropes, and discarded fishing gear. Seabirds

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<v Speaker 2>also get caught up with fishing line and plastic cords.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they also regularly rescue turcles that have been

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<v Speaker 2>ingesting plastic or being entangled in discarded fishing gear. Some

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<v Speaker 2>estimates say that by twenty fifty there will be more

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<v Speaker 2>plastic by weight than fish in the ocean. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is what we need to prevent. It's that sense of

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<v Speaker 2>getting involved. Getting down here to Sunset Beach at about

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<v Speaker 2>nine o'clock this morning and together with the two Ocean

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<v Speaker 2>Saquarium and Cape Talk five six seven, we'll be doing

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<v Speaker 2>a trash pash. Now, last time we were out at a

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<v Speaker 2>trash pash, we found a discarded tire, We found a

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<v Speaker 2>dovey cover that was discarded on the beach, and also

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<v Speaker 2>a number of smaller minor plastics which also come down

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<v Speaker 2>from our rivers and our estuaries into the ocean, such

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<v Speaker 2>as earbuds, a number of other things that are discarded, needles,

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<v Speaker 2>and quite a few other things that you find on

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<v Speaker 2>the beach, plastic packets of chips. These are all single

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<v Speaker 2>use plastics and are not biodegradable, and instead of forming

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<v Speaker 2>part of the natural system again, plastic breaks up infinitely

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<v Speaker 2>and a single use water bottle will break into smaller

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<v Speaker 2>pieces and those smaller pieces will then be ingested by

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<v Speaker 2>marine life. Make sure that you come down to Sunset

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<v Speaker 2>Beach this morning at nine o'clock and make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>you bring the children along with because it is their

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<v Speaker 2>heritage that we should be living and the legacy that

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<v Speaker 2>we should be fulfilling, and bring them along at school holidays.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to see everybody down there this morning. That's

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<v Speaker 2>nine o'clock at Sunset Beach, together with the Two Oceans

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<v Speaker 2>Aquarium and of course Cape Talk. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>bring along with anything, just a couple of very comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>walking shoes along the beach or a couple of wellys.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll give you a plastic bag. We'll even give you

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<v Speaker 2>the gloves to make sure that you are safe. And

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<v Speaker 2>that is our trash besh with the Two Oceans Aquerium

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<v Speaker 2>at nine o'clock at Sunseeed Beach this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks very much. Indeed, Zaane, there you are. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want to get out into nature this morning and do

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<v Speaker 1>your bit for Mandela Day, then go and catch up

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<v Speaker 1>with Saint Johnson at Sunset Beach and join the Two

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<v Speaker 1>Oceans Aquarium and Cape Talk for our winter trash bash,

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<v Speaker 1>beach cleanup all right until the second of August, which

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<v Speaker 1>is two Saturday's time, you can catch Unruly at the

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<v Speaker 1>Baxter Studio. It delves into baboon politics, which divides a

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<v Speaker 1>community seeking answers, and theater makers say it explores how

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<v Speaker 1>we can understand the issue from multiple perspectives, painting in

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<v Speaker 1>the process a rich picture of the Cape Peninsula's complex

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<v Speaker 1>history and shared ecology of mountain, ocean, urban and military environments.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining me on the line to give us more details

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<v Speaker 1>is the director of Unruly, Neil Coppin. Very good morning

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<v Speaker 1>to Neil, and thanks so much for joining us. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that the play is based on an awful lot of

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<v Speaker 1>academic and also creative research, tell us a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, We run a company called the Amphitheater and it

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<v Speaker 3>is a research unit as much as a theater company.

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<v Speaker 3>So we do up to three four years of research

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<v Speaker 3>before we begin to devise theater out of the research.

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<v Speaker 3>And we believe, you know, what's the point of doing

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<v Speaker 3>all this research if it can't be shared back with

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<v Speaker 3>the communities that has emerged from and be used to

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<v Speaker 3>kind of create constructive, more empathetic dialogue with one another.

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<v Speaker 3>So we use theater in quite a strategic way. And

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<v Speaker 3>then the research we do was done in collaboration with

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<v Speaker 3>the Stockholm University the Resilient Center that we're doing a

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<v Speaker 3>survey at the time and wanted to use theater to

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<v Speaker 3>help kind of articulate the findings back to communities in

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<v Speaker 3>the South Peninsula. But we also as a company to

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<v Speaker 3>our own research into historic archives. We look at the

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<v Speaker 3>mythology years of the area. How you know, baboons are

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<v Speaker 3>obviously behind this place, so we go deep into how

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<v Speaker 3>do South Africans understand these creatures? What are our kind

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<v Speaker 3>of belief systems around him? So it's a very kind

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<v Speaker 3>of complex and comprehensive research process before we begin to

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<v Speaker 3>devise a story to share back with people. And and

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<v Speaker 3>really as a result of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And theatre luminary Andrew bucklans Stars of course once it

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<v Speaker 1>been like working working with Andrew on the piece.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think I, like hundreds of different theater

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<v Speaker 3>makers and performers around this country have been grown up

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<v Speaker 3>watching Andrew and have been so deeply influenced by buyers

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<v Speaker 3>work in his storytelling. So I was nine years old

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<v Speaker 3>when I first met him. I was selling programs at

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<v Speaker 3>a Grand SUSI too sober, and I first saw this

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<v Speaker 3>man on stage and obviously was in all way ever since.

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<v Speaker 3>So the chance to finally get to collaborate with him

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<v Speaker 3>in my old aide and you know, Andrew's been very

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<v Speaker 3>involved in the research, not just as an actor, but

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<v Speaker 3>sof and I see it to make it so we're

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<v Speaker 3>rarely over the last three or four years journey together

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<v Speaker 3>on the story in a way that's also forms the

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<v Speaker 3>most beautiful friendship. And I admire him so much, and

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<v Speaker 3>obviously in such a complex if you like this, to

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<v Speaker 3>have a former that has so much humanity and empathy

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<v Speaker 3>for all perspectives, I think it's a very important starting point.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's he's just a joy and a friend, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, I've just been so moved to

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<v Speaker 3>see wherever we perform, the amounts of people that come

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<v Speaker 3>up to him and say, you changed my life. When

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<v Speaker 3>I was growing up, I had a picture of you

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<v Speaker 3>on my walls with you know, I went into theater

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<v Speaker 3>because of you. He's had such a huge impact on

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<v Speaker 3>so many to africans lives.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course there's a musical element to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Courtesy of Chantelle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Chanta Willie Peterson is the most extraordinary double basis.

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<v Speaker 3>And we wrote a double bass into the story and

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<v Speaker 3>a character that played it, and we searched the country

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<v Speaker 3>for you know, it needed to be a very particular character,

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<v Speaker 3>and we found Chantelle and obviously sometimes well known, she's

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<v Speaker 3>just extraordinary. She's plays with Erica Badoo and Stevie Wonder

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<v Speaker 3>and just have the most rich musical life. And to

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<v Speaker 3>have it on stage accompanying Andrew with the double bass

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<v Speaker 3>as such a such a beautiful form of storytelling. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not a one man show. It's definitely a two person

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<v Speaker 3>using music as a kind of response as a character

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<v Speaker 3>in itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Neil, what are you hoping that people take away from

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<v Speaker 1>the play?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think, you know, looking at the situation on

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<v Speaker 3>the ground, and I think everyone has a kind of

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<v Speaker 3>fatigue around it because it's been so ongoing, humans interacting

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<v Speaker 3>with the boons. How do we learn to live with

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<v Speaker 3>each other and coexist? What are the answers? You know,

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<v Speaker 3>everyone's searching answers. And I think this is a kind

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<v Speaker 3>of microcosm of a much much bigger questions we as

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<v Speaker 3>humans face into the future around how we live alongside

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<v Speaker 3>not just other creatures, but each other. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>the play rarely tries to unpack that and all its

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<v Speaker 3>complexity that comes with that. You know, it's not trying

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<v Speaker 3>to reduce it. It looks at, obviously the polar opposites

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<v Speaker 3>that have emerged in this situation and all political situations

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<v Speaker 3>of any sort. But I think it asked much bigger

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<v Speaker 3>questions about how we live a community than you know,

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<v Speaker 3>ask the questions who's unruly here? Is it the baboons

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<v Speaker 3>or is it they're humans? And I think the play

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<v Speaker 3>tries to propose much more provocative questions. It doesn't try

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<v Speaker 3>to fit in the binary of the situation, but rarely

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<v Speaker 3>get stuck into the murky in between parts that we

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<v Speaker 3>don't like to talk about because they make us perhaps

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<v Speaker 3>a little more uncomfortable or cause us to have to

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<v Speaker 3>force force us to shift our position of it. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think we don't like shifting positions that we hold

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<v Speaker 3>on something, And the play really asked us to empathetically

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<v Speaker 3>step into very different perspectives and try to form kind

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<v Speaker 3>of much more compassionate response to each other and the

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<v Speaker 3>other creatures that we live alongside.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, I always think that's there to such a

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<v Speaker 1>remarkable vehicle for that, for easing people into the discomfort

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<v Speaker 1>and being confronting in a way that means they can't

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<v Speaker 1>get up and walk out. Essentially, Neil, good to have

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<v Speaker 1>you with us this morning, Thanks very much. Indeed, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>you can get your tickets via web tickets. It's for

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen years and older. Tickets are two hundred and forty rand.

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<v Speaker 1>Performances on Tuesday to Saturday at eight o'clock and then

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<v Speaker 1>a Saturday performance at hof Post two. And you can

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<v Speaker 1>get in touch with the Yeah with a theater directly

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<v Speaker 1>for block bookings or school bookings that is unruly at

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<v Speaker 1>the Baxter Studio. And then finally tomorrow you can meditate

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<v Speaker 1>over tea in a traditional Chinese tea ceremony which is

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<v Speaker 1>being hosted at Zen Studio in Yeska's tea house in

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<v Speaker 1>hout Bay. How can you get in touch with her? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>cuickt one hundred and eighty rand or three hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty round for a couple. And yeah, it's a weekly

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<v Speaker 1>meditation over tea and it's happening at the Zens Studio

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<v Speaker 1>in hout Bake