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Speaker 1: We serve and today we go to Mfullerni and we

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Speaker 1: welcome to Lani mcgazi. We're still looking to get hold

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Speaker 1: of Ti Lani. We're going to talk about a residence

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Speaker 1: demanding a police station. It's home to over six hundred

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Speaker 1: sixty thousand and it's growing rapidly. In fact, the area

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Speaker 1: remains without a police station. Residents have to travel blue

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Speaker 1: downs two blue downs popularly known as Fullerni police station

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Speaker 1: a few kilometers away depending on where one resides. And

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Speaker 1: according to residents and the latest crime statistics, crime is

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Speaker 1: on an upward trajectory and residents believe that this is

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Speaker 1: because the area has no police station. A few years

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Speaker 1: ago they had one, but it was closed. Ti Lani mcgazi,

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Speaker 1: welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Vince, and good morning to all the listeners

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Speaker 3: and a hipespecial further day to use it.

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Speaker 2: Here we go again.

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Speaker 3: I'm told, I'm told that you're born today and they

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Speaker 3: very had this.

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Speaker 2: That's our birth day Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: It's marble day.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, thank you. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: To Larnie, I see you take it as back to

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Speaker 1: fu learning and I and I think the first question

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Speaker 1: is clearly that community is very active if you're covering

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Speaker 1: so very many stories that they are taking ownership of

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Speaker 1: their community and they want good for their community.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Clarence, Yes, indeed, we are going back to fullin

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Speaker 3: again this week.

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Speaker 2: Look just to give you.

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Speaker 3: Some context in fully in Ash, you know head a

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Speaker 3: police station some couple of years ago, probably about ten

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Speaker 3: years ago. We were trying to get the exact year

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Speaker 3: in which the station was closed. They had a police station,

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Speaker 3: but the station was for some reason closed. I think

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Speaker 3: it was a very small area that they had, so.

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Speaker 2: They closed the police station and then they moved.

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Speaker 3: It to the current police station which is in the

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Speaker 3: Blue Doowns area next to the Blue Downs Magistrate Court.

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Speaker 3: This has put a lot of stain on residents because

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Speaker 3: to get there, this is basically a couple of killing

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Speaker 3: us away from the from from their community. So to

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Speaker 3: get there they have to either hire a vehicle or

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Speaker 3: travel whatever the case.

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Speaker 2: So it's a very tricky situation for them.

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Speaker 3: Remember Clearence, when we talk about client, this was an

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Speaker 3: imagence situation. So you need to get assustance here and

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Speaker 3: there all quickly. So if you can't, then it becomes

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Speaker 3: a very difficult situation. So they're sitting with this situation

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Speaker 3: where they need to travel and they must take a

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Speaker 3: taxie or hire somebody or hire a car, and it's

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Speaker 3: it's it's it's a cost implication here people to get Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 1: But they did have a police station, did they not?

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Speaker 1: Was it a satellite police station? Why did they close

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Speaker 1: whatever that community had in the past.

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Speaker 3: The politician, like I said, it was a very small

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Speaker 3: police station, and I think the idea was to really

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Speaker 3: give them more services because if you look at where

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Speaker 3: this satellite police station is located, it's a very tight

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Speaker 3: corner where actually there's less little movement around there. So

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Speaker 3: they move today and the current polication that we talk about,

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Speaker 3: which is the Blue doowns one. It's a massive police station,

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Speaker 3: but their premises for this little one is very small.

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Speaker 2: So they moved. There's resources to that police station to

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Speaker 2: get more services and all of that.

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Speaker 3: But in essence then that impact I don't know every

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Speaker 3: on the services that they are rendered into the people

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Speaker 3: who must not travel to get to this police station.

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Speaker 3: And as I said last week, Fulland is one of

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Speaker 3: the fastest growing areas in the Cape, and you know

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Speaker 3: that there are a number of informal settlements that have

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Speaker 3: come up, and.

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Speaker 2: It's really contributing to the numbers.

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Speaker 3: And when we looked at the crime states that were

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Speaker 3: released in December and in February, for.

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Speaker 2: The last quarter of last year, a total.

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Speaker 3: Of seventy three seventy five people were made at in

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Speaker 3: fuland which is that's a period of three months which

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Speaker 3: were killed in that area. So there is a concern

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Speaker 3: among the community leaders that this is obviously inspiring and

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Speaker 3: out of control.

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Speaker 2: I get you.

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Speaker 1: I just had to look at how many residents and

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Speaker 1: typical police station serves internationally and yeah, typically it says

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Speaker 1: between fifty and undred and fifty thousand residents, So it

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Speaker 1: doesn't look like out of sync with international kind of cities.

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Speaker 1: But let's talk about where is the community directing its

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Speaker 1: frustration to whom is it directing this activism for added

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Speaker 1: police resources.

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Speaker 3: They told us players that they have had engagements with

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Speaker 3: the previous ministers. That includes Ciky in Barula, that includes

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Speaker 3: all the previous ministers. They've said they've engaged with them

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Speaker 3: around this matter. However, their calls have basically fallen on

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Speaker 3: deaf years and in fact, when we then we happened

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Speaker 3: cele particle, who also indicated that they are working on

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Speaker 3: a plan to have a police stician in that year.

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Speaker 3: So people in that community, the community leaders have been

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Speaker 3: engaging with various quotas to try at least and every

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Speaker 3: police station in there.

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Speaker 1: And trying statistics. Does it support they've called you have

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Speaker 1: a sense of crime statistics in that community.

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Speaker 3: From what we observed, Clarence, from from the numbers that

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Speaker 3: I've given to you, it's fun. You used to be

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Speaker 3: just they when you talk about time statistics in the province,

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Speaker 3: but if you look currently at where they stand, they

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Speaker 3: are basically from the states that were released, they are

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Speaker 3: now top.

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Speaker 2: They are the top rant politician.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to metals in the province and they've

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Speaker 3: basically taken that from the younger politician which used to

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Speaker 3: dominate that. So they are currently top at the stage.

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Speaker 3: So clearly these are residents are unhappy about that. And

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Speaker 3: as I said, I mean, this is the community that

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Speaker 3: is first growing and there's more people moving in, there's

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Speaker 3: new div I mean, it's settlements moving into the area.

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Speaker 3: So it does really impact on on on everything that

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Speaker 3: they do in the area.

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Speaker 1: And I feel for this particular community. I feel for

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Speaker 1: this particular community, and I really can't believe that you know,

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Speaker 1: their efforts are falling on on on deaf ears. And

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Speaker 1: that's why we do this thing. That's why we connect

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Speaker 1: with City Division to Larnie Magazi is the editor, just

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Speaker 1: to amplify matters a little more so and hopefully bring

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Speaker 1: some relief to the crime situation that that people in

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Speaker 1: that community want addressed. Where can we read more about

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Speaker 1: the story to Learnie?

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