Speaker 1: Right twenty one minutes past three. The City of Johannesburg
Speaker 1: now has a new speaker. I refer to all of
Speaker 1: this a little bit before as musical chairs. If people
Speaker 1: are not familiar with the game, it's usually played by
Speaker 1: children at parties, and the music plays and the kids
Speaker 1: move around chairs or whatever it is, and when the
Speaker 1: music stops you have to stop. That is all harmless fun.
Speaker 1: I would humbly suggest that the constant changing of significant
Speaker 1: positions in the executive of running the largest metro and
Speaker 1: the biggest economic hub in the country is not harmless
Speaker 1: fun at all. It doesn't seem to me to achieve
Speaker 1: anything productive at all. Nevertheless, we do have a new speaker,
Speaker 1: and that is Margaret Arnold's. She was until recently MMC
Speaker 1: for Finance. It's not a position she held for particularly long,
Speaker 1: and by the way, she was formerly for a while
Speaker 1: also the speaker of the House. I guess we will
Speaker 1: be looking or hearing about because nobody's asked us for
Speaker 1: our views, so to say we're looking is really missing
Speaker 1: the point. But there will be a new MMC for
Speaker 1: Finance unless there is one already and I missed it.
Speaker 1: But somebody's not missing any of this is our EWN
Speaker 1: colleague to bisk over Tubby's so good afternoon. So Margaret
Speaker 1: Arnold's is now the new speaker. Was it convincing and
Speaker 1: does the margin of victory, if it was convincing, suggest
Speaker 1: we might have some stability at least for a while.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean the local government elections only next year,
Speaker 2: so the stability, the stability is only going to be
Speaker 2: for a year, for you end a few months. But
Speaker 2: the victory was convincing. John, Margaret Arnold's got one hundreds
Speaker 2: and thirty seven votes. She was up against the DA's
Speaker 2: Alex Christians who got sixty eight and the UDM who
Speaker 2: got five. Now, obviously Margaret Annolds was backed by the
Speaker 2: a n C lead coalition, which obviously features the ATM,
Speaker 2: the a C al JEMA and the Patriotic Alliance Market
Speaker 2: Arnold's John becomes the fifth speaker since the twenty twenty
Speaker 2: one local government elections. And and you know, as you're
Speaker 2: saying around those musical chase, I think you know we've
Speaker 2: seen all when you look at the mayors. We've also
Speaker 2: seen five mayors since the one local government elections. And
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting. I was only recently, at an
Speaker 2: event John with the former city manager, the mayor, the
Speaker 2: current mayor. Do the more is also there and the
Speaker 2: former city manager, mister Trevor Fowler, said that these constant
Speaker 2: changes of executive leadership.
Speaker 3: Yes, they bring up a decline.
Speaker 2: They sort of the hearts of the decline of Johannesburg
Speaker 2: because every time you change, you change a mayor, change
Speaker 2: a speaker, change someone in an executive they come in
Speaker 2: with a fresh new perspective, a fresh new agenda, and
Speaker 2: this obviously disrupts those people that fall under it the
Speaker 2: way they have to constantly adapt to the new person's
Speaker 2: new agenda and new mandates. And he says, you know,
Speaker 2: at some point we're going to have to have some
Speaker 2: sort of stability if Johannesburg is going to return to
Speaker 2: his glory days. I'm from Durban, so I don't know
Speaker 2: what the glory days for Chranspur look like.
Speaker 1: Well that's okay, some people might have forgotten them who've
Speaker 1: lived there all their lives, like me. But let me
Speaker 1: ask you this just in conclusion, Tubby, So do we
Speaker 1: have a new MMC for finance?
Speaker 3: So is that still to be settled? That's still to
Speaker 3: be settled.
Speaker 2: We don't expect that Margaret Arnold's is going to be
Speaker 2: both Speaker and MMC. She's likely going to resign. The
Speaker 2: mayor data Morero is out of the country, so obviously
Speaker 2: he will have to come back. There will be a
Speaker 2: coalition meeting and a new MMC for Finance will be appointed.
Speaker 2: We do obviously it's an appointment position, so obviously there
Speaker 2: won't be any sort of elections and will be appointed
Speaker 2: within the coalition agreement.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Tubby Goobe.
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, really, I would like to know and
Speaker 1: if you want to argue with me and tell me
Speaker 1: I'm flat out wrong, people who are involved in any
Speaker 1: of the parties in the governing coalition. My distinct impression
Speaker 1: is that you've got a coalition that allows you to
Speaker 1: exercise power. Within that you then allocate various positions that
Speaker 1: are more have more to do with political balance and
Speaker 1: issues of political large ess than they do have anything
Speaker 1: to do with expertise and skills fit for purpose to
Speaker 1: run particular positions. I'm not saying for a minute that
Speaker 1: there may not be some competent people in the mix,
Speaker 1: but they don't seem to stay there and they don't
Speaker 1: seem to have enough competent people around them to actually
Speaker 1: make a difference to what needs doing in Joeburg.
Speaker 3: I'd love to be wrong.
Speaker 1: And if you want to come in and say I'm
Speaker 1: missing the point, I'm being unfair, trust me.
Speaker 3: I'm keen to here. But I want to hear an argument.
Speaker 1: I want to hear an argument that is bad up
Speaker 1: with some substance, please, so if you know where to
Speaker 1: get us, Oh, double one eight A three O seven
Speaker 1: O two looks like a hot mess to me.
Speaker 3: I'd love to be wrong. Twenty six minutes past three