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Speaker 1: Funny son.

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Speaker 2: It's Lady Smith Black Mambazo Musso Casa Dottor Dodozo Macatini

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Speaker 2: on your say note to You weekend Breakfast with the

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Speaker 2: beautiful sounds of a song called the Togola Mama. It's

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Speaker 2: taken off the latest album by Lady Smith Black Mambazo

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Speaker 2: in collaboration with Mussokoza and doctor Markartini, an album called

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Speaker 2: One Voice, One World, and we're thrilled for this morning's

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Speaker 2: music Horner to be joined by Swoonseni Shabalala who's the

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Speaker 2: leader of Lady Smith Black Mambaso, also joined by musician

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Speaker 2: cultural historian Visionary Musokoza also joins us on the line

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Speaker 2: song Sony, I'd like to start with you this morning,

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Speaker 2: good morning, tell us about the idea behind One Voice,

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Speaker 2: One World and how this collaboration came about.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, good money, Thank you, thank you for inviting

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Speaker 1: you to the show. The album as an idea from

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Speaker 1: our manager to learn my chosen who wanted us to

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Speaker 1: do something different and just collaborate with our friend of

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Speaker 1: South African musicians, and we put the idea on the

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Speaker 1: table and we liked it and said it's a good idea.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it and see what's going to come up with.

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Speaker 1: And when we met at the studio with the with

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Speaker 1: the guys doctor Macrtin and Lusso Coroson, we didn't have anything,

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Speaker 1: but we agreed that everything we are going to do

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Speaker 1: is gonna We're going to compose at the studio and

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Speaker 1: see how the album goes, and.

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Speaker 3: Also just choose a few of old classics.

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Speaker 1: Of members or to put on the album. And so

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Speaker 1: so it started like that and just give ourselves chance

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Speaker 1: that each one of us are going to compose a song,

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Speaker 1: the me and my two brothers Mooso, and so that

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Speaker 1: is how the album came about. We chose to compose

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Speaker 1: songs and then work on them together and distinct.

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Speaker 2: And so we know in members for keeping Statamia alive,

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Speaker 2: taking Statamia around the world to you know, audiences and

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Speaker 2: other countries and so. But we've also seen in Mambasa

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Speaker 2: while doing that kind of bringing new influences, new sounds

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Speaker 2: to their music. Talk to us about how that sound

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Speaker 2: has done. I think your sound has been able to

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Speaker 2: do two things. One stay true to the essence what

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Speaker 2: Mambazo always was, but also embracing and evolving with new sounds.

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Speaker 2: Talk to us about.

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Speaker 1: That as a musician. It's also it's very important to

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Speaker 1: be able to work with other musicians. For instance, Ladies

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Speaker 1: Mambaso too. For the group to be able to open

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Speaker 1: those around the world, it was their collaboration.

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Speaker 3: With Paul Simon.

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Speaker 1: But Heving said that it's also very important.

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Speaker 3: To stay true to you, to yourself and your music

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Speaker 3: and your culture, because when people are inviting you to

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Speaker 3: do something with them, they invite you.

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Speaker 1: Because they like what you're doing, they like your culture,

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Speaker 1: they like your music, they want you to share that

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Speaker 1: with them. So it's very important to stay strong and

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Speaker 1: not allow yourself to be a change by the collaborations

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Speaker 1: that you do. So we always make sure that we

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Speaker 1: do a collaboration, but we also take time to rehears

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Speaker 1: and also do a traditional Stataia album because the mission

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Speaker 1: of Ladies with Flag Members or the mission of our

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Speaker 1: fathers when they studied the music, they wanted to preserve

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Speaker 1: our culture, our music, and also to.

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Speaker 3: Be able to share it with the world.

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Speaker 1: So we want to keep that letasicoring as they as

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Speaker 1: they wish that my father wanted to do, and instead

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Speaker 1: the Ladies and Flag members as.

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Speaker 2: Mentioned, I also joined on the line by a historian

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Speaker 2: musician who also joins us is part of the collaborate

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Speaker 2: on One Voice, One World. Biso, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time talk to us

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Speaker 2: about why it was so important to be part of

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Speaker 2: One Voice, One World and what it meant to be

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Speaker 2: working with Lady Smith Black Members or such an iconic

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Speaker 2: group on this body of work.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having us. I think for me,

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Speaker 4: when I started as a musician, my only hope was

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Speaker 4: to have a picture with the Black Members. So now

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Speaker 4: being involved in the recording, it's something unimaginable even for

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Speaker 4: where I come from in a show, I think it's

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Speaker 4: going to bring a hope if you look at the

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Speaker 4: history or what bons Chab just said, the history of

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Speaker 4: a collaborative nature of the brand Lady Smith Black Members.

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Speaker 4: This now sets a tone for the next generation to

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Speaker 4: come that Professor Joseph Schabalali and other icons to come

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Speaker 4: to South Africa. This is a trend we need to

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Speaker 4: ascribe value to our own heritage and culture. And if

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Speaker 4: you look at the History Office Katamir where people who

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Speaker 4: are living their homes, this is a very important story

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Speaker 4: to tell because there were times where people who are

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Speaker 4: missing their homes, working in file, working in Joe bag Devin. Now,

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Speaker 4: if they're missing their families, they will try to sing

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Speaker 4: and turn and someone who else will say, hey, they're

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Speaker 4: gonna arrest you some fine. So it black mambas symbolizes

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Speaker 4: the very, very epitome of our heritage and history in

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Speaker 4: South Africa.

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Speaker 2: So much of the work that you do is around archiving,

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Speaker 2: around history, about remembering, you know, kind of going back

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Speaker 2: to remember what was lost and kind of help us

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Speaker 2: know who we are. And I'm interested in how this

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Speaker 2: also fits in the work you've done now with Lady Smith,

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Speaker 2: how that fits into that important work of archiving and

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Speaker 2: kind of memorializing important history.

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Speaker 4: What excites me more about this project with Lady Smith

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Speaker 4: blad Mambasi and talked him to Zmacating, is that it

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Speaker 4: start Amya actually is mothered by the indigenous music called

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Speaker 4: mahob only when people began to move and work in

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Speaker 4: the eppening areas were exposed to three part harmony. And

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Speaker 4: but if you look at the plate mambasos music, because

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Speaker 4: it's start Ama has different styles. There is a scholar Joe,

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Speaker 4: but if we look at plet Mambasa, it's more I

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Speaker 4: can come UPSU. There is a dignity w if you

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Speaker 4: if you think of Professor Shabala, then go back to

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Speaker 4: a mahob when it start at home saying no and

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Speaker 4: go to It's one of the same thing but in

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Speaker 4: a completely evolved well. So for me, this is a

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Speaker 4: very exciting time and I think South Africa, especially the

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Speaker 4: young people, this is the time to learn about who

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Speaker 4: they are that I.

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Speaker 2: Just want to come back to you here. So One Voice,

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Speaker 2: One World is out. I know you guys are in

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Speaker 2: the country briefly last year and we were lucky enough

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Speaker 2: to catch the show at the State Theater. Any plans

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Speaker 2: to launch the album or perform the album in South

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Speaker 2: Africa this year.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's what we are talking about. We want to

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Speaker 1: launch the album when we come back because right now

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Speaker 1: we are on tour in America. We just finished the

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Speaker 1: show in Missouri Saint Louis. We're going to Ohio tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: but we're coming back end of a plane. So we

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Speaker 1: are planning to launch the album and also maybe do

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Speaker 1: two or three shows together before the end of the

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Speaker 1: time tends because as you know, doctor Dodoso is very

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Speaker 1: busy touring as well. Also it's in out theater is

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Speaker 1: out touring some way, so therese are very busy people.

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Speaker 1: The two we can't just say tomorrow, let's do this,

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Speaker 1: but we are planning on doing something when we come back.

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Speaker 1: We are doing a launch in starting launch wonderful.

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Speaker 2: That sounds exciting. And thank you both very much for

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Speaker 2: giving us your time this morning. I really appreciate you

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Speaker 2: giving us part of your Sunday to join us on

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Speaker 2: the music Horner, thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: One the album is out, One Voice, One Wild, the

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Speaker 4: Ladies Miss Black members.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Joined on the line by sponsor

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Speaker 2: Leader of Ladies, Smith Mambaso. Also joined by Rabin Busso Carza,

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Speaker 2: a historian, a cultural activist, a visionary who's also a

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Speaker 2: co collaborator along with doctor Duduzo Marcatini on One World,

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Speaker 2: One Voice, Coming Up. We find out what's coming up

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Speaker 2: on Soulful Sunday with Kenny Maistry