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Speaker 2: This is Keith Talk. It's seven thirty eight.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to Weekend Breakfast with Me, Sarah Jane Maguirela King.

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Speaker 2: I hope you're all doing well this morning. Um good?

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: We started this next conversation last month, but we ran

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Speaker 3: out of time because I'm a yapper, uh and I

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Speaker 3: got so I felt such a connection with our guests

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Speaker 3: which tends to happen. And then I looked up at

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Speaker 3: the clock and went, well, we run out of time

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Speaker 3: to talk about bio hacking, so you're gonna have to

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Speaker 3: come back. So I'm delighted that Tony Carroll, founder of

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Speaker 3: My Beauty Love, is with us this morning to continue that.

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Speaker 2: Not even continue. I think we got one.

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Speaker 3: We got like one question into my list of questions

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Speaker 3: last last time, and then we just digressed onto something else,

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Speaker 3: talk about biohacking. Do you actually know what people mean

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Speaker 3: when they say biohacking. It's one of those words we

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Speaker 3: are hearing more and more. But what does it mean

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Speaker 3: for the average person who just wants to kind of

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Speaker 3: feel better, have more energy, live longer and healthier. Let's

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Speaker 3: find out. Hello, Hi, we mustn't digress again, which we've

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Speaker 3: also just done while during the sport. Not that I

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Speaker 3: the sport. I might be going to the Stormers game later,

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Speaker 3: by the way, she's digressed again my first live rugby match.

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Speaker 3: I might be going haven't decided yet. We don't know.

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Speaker 2: There's a number of factors weighing on that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we just digressed or we just sort of went

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Speaker 3: off on a tangent before we even got on air,

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Speaker 3: so we must stay on track. Tony, tell us again,

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Speaker 3: what's biohacking.

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Speaker 1: Biohacking is up demizing your.

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Speaker 2: Biology, right, give me an example of that.

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Speaker 1: Grounding fasting which we spoke about last time. Experimenting with

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Speaker 1: different types of supplements at different times of the day,

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Speaker 1: taking creatine at certain times of the day could also be,

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Speaker 1: you know, part of biohacking. It's anything that you do

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Speaker 1: that's going to optimize you so that you can feel

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Speaker 1: your best at any age.

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Speaker 2: Okay, does that. Yeah, it does.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's whether it's eating, whether it's supplementation, whether it's exercising,

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Speaker 1: whether it's doing these weird, wonderful things like sauna and

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Speaker 3: Who doesn't some people don't with their nuts. I absolutely

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Speaker 3: love a sauna and a message. Oh my goodness, I

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Speaker 3: actually want to I'm staying in a hotel tonight because

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Speaker 3: I need to get away from my children.

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Speaker 2: And I'm allowed to say this.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure there's people listening in here are like, what

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Speaker 3: what a terrible mother?

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Speaker 2: Why she always?

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Speaker 3: Because it's it's a lot, and I love them and

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Speaker 3: I want them to have a happy mummy.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we should talk about bio hacking your kids?

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Speaker 2: Go on, what do I need to do?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 2: What do I pump them full of? That isn't written?

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Speaker 1: This was This was actually a very interesting conversation I had.

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Speaker 1: I was on a podcast the other day.

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Speaker 2: I'll go on which one.

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Speaker 1: Am I allowed to say?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Mama Mudra with Kate. She's lovely, I literally just really lovely.

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Speaker 1: has realized it is that our dopamine receptors are totally shot.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, from this constant doom scrolling, this constant stimulation,

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Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of parents, you know, they'll

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Speaker 1: It's that screen that's so close to their face and

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Speaker 1: So one of the main things is magnesium. And magnesium

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Speaker 1: acid called tyrosine. And tyrosine is obviously found in all

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Speaker 3: I want to stick pins in two of those things.

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Speaker 3: One of them is the magnesium, and one of them

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Speaker 3: the supplements as a whole. I've always been not wary,

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Speaker 2: Right word about supplements.

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Speaker 3: And we have a regular guest on the show, a

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Speaker 2: Already eating a healthy diet. We are living this fast

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Speaker 1: Well, the word supplement is actually what it is. It's

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Speaker 1: they're eating junk. I agree, And unfortunately, you supplements are

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So, and you know, so there are certain supplements

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Speaker 3: and you see all these because it's big business, right,

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Speaker 3: If I'm going to implement three things that I can

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Speaker 3: whether it be going to have a sauna every three day,

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Speaker 1: The sauna, the massage every day?

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine one day? That's why J look looks

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean before they go on stage, they all

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Speaker 3: Such a I would be such a nice personage every day, really,

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Speaker 1: So I would say supplement wise, I mean, obviously magnesium.

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Speaker 3: Somebody saying, I eat banana peals in my smoothie to

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know what frozen bananas are like such a

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And another another before we have to go. Another amazing, amazing,

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Speaker 1: amazing superfood is colostrum. Colostrum is going to explode. Mark.

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Speaker 1: That's the elixir is phenomenal for everything that is. You're right,

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Speaker 3: We've got to go. Look coming to Tony. It's it's

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Speaker 3: great to have you and I just I just love

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Speaker 3: chatting to you. I love your brain. Buy a hacking

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