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Speaker 1: Just like this?

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Speaker 2: Kids Go night play by Nad. Just keep watching because

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Speaker 3: Hey like gay? Just like this?

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Speaker 2: Kids An Night play by lad Just keep watching, just

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Speaker 1: How have I m off going? Know where this? My god?

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Speaker 1: You make it that we go your friends like Jai

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Speaker 2: Just like this, kids A Night play by Name? Just

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Speaker 1: How's I pasted?

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Speaker 1: How's I mean?

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Speaker 2: I like that? Just like this kids by Name? Just

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Speaker 3: He like that.

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Speaker 1: Just keep watching, Tate McCrae, it is on your show.

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Speaker 1: The kim Top forty soundtrack is style with Ackerman's and

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Speaker 1: over to somebody who is an old friend of ours.

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Speaker 1: When I say old friend, he's not old at all.

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Speaker 1: But I remember David Derman being the first interview of

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Speaker 1: the year on the kfim Top forty, and finally he

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Speaker 1: welcome back. What have you been up to besides tennis?

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Speaker 3: Oh, you've been watching my story.

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Speaker 1: I'm your fan of yours. I watch your stories coming out. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I've been writing a lot. I've been planning a lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I've been writing a lot. I've been I'm very

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Speaker 3: excited for this next little bit because it's you know,

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Speaker 3: these these almost reels of live shows over and over again,

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Speaker 3: of you know, cool venues and things just manifesting, manifest

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Speaker 3: and manifest. Ye, and now I've got them. And this

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Speaker 3: in yes, click play, and it's the final song sitting

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Speaker 1: Your phone, just sitting there. Really, Oh, that's quite interesting.

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Speaker 1: I've never done that before. Like, imagine you playing like

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Speaker 1: It's teasers to what's to come. I'm just saying it

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Speaker 1: That'll be cool. But yes, I know you've been playing tennis,

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Speaker 1: How did you feel when Ross, I love old Friend's amazing?

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Speaker 1: He's I mean, that's you know what you ask guys.

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Speaker 1: morning Light. Maybe he's got some inspiration for me. But

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you scan for two,

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Speaker 1: be and the power behind it. For Uncle David, who

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Speaker 1: I can call now Uncle Dave, Uncle Dave,