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Speaker 1: Seven, not two weekend Breakfast Motoring.

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Speaker 2: It's thirteen minutes after seven o'clock. Welcome back to seven

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Speaker 2: eighty weekend breakfast with me, cooks and strogram. Time for

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Speaker 2: us to talk moting and two days. This morning, we're

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Speaker 2: looking at the new vehicle sales and what they tell

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Speaker 2: us for the previous month. It seems there's been some

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Speaker 2: pretty good improvements and pretty good recovery in the new

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Speaker 2: vehicle sales market. We know twenty twenty was particularly difficult,

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Speaker 2: but since then there seems to be some improvement to

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Speaker 2: those numbers. So to talk to us about them, we

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Speaker 2: are joined as always by our resident moting enthusiasts. Chagazi

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Speaker 2: can be a very good morning too.

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Speaker 1: Very good morning to you, and the listener is good.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's a great pleasure having you on the show.

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Speaker 2: So we're talking about the most recent car sales and

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Speaker 2: it looks as though the kind of that upward should

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Speaker 2: direct to that recovery of new car sales is continuing.

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Speaker 1: On goods And you know, this makes me so happy

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Speaker 1: being a South African knowing that you know, the the

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Speaker 1: rate of lending is you know, kind of making people

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Speaker 1: much more comfortable in buying cars. And I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: with our topic, they're actually discussing the fact that while

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Speaker 1: the new car market in constantly increases, this is now

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Speaker 1: the news car market that's also getting a massive uptack

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Speaker 1: in terms of people buying those cars. And we can

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Speaker 1: see that people are now trusting used cars quite a lot.

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Speaker 1: And for those who can't necessarily afford the brain new car,

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Speaker 1: or who can afford a brain new car, but they

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Speaker 1: you know, they're still are quitt up in a anty

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Speaker 1: rather buy a used car because it gives me more

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Speaker 1: value for money and I can essentially you can stretch

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Speaker 1: my rand in that section. So this is great numbers.

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Speaker 1: And I mean we are getting a year on year

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Speaker 1: increase as well as the month on months increase as well.

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Speaker 1: I'm as opposed to the year that was twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so it looks as because of course this

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Speaker 2: when we're talking about the January twenty twenty six new

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Speaker 2: of weeks. It's showing that there's kind of month on

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Speaker 2: month we're seeing kind of an increase on the number

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Speaker 2: of sales. And you're on you also, like you were

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Speaker 2: just saying that there was an increase there as well,

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Speaker 2: and it seems to be there are particular brands that

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Speaker 2: are kind of driving that growth. And so I was

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Speaker 2: reading an article here Toyota, Suzuki, VW, Hyundai, and Ford

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Speaker 2: seem to be the five brands that are responsible for

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Speaker 2: just under sixty percent of all vehicle sales.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent. They've got models that they know a

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Speaker 1: lot of people in South Africa in lund is is band.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the policy for right and

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Speaker 1: this is change needs the top selling one eighty nine

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Speaker 1: and at an average of forty seven thousand kilometers goods right,

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Speaker 1: So we're definitely seeing that the Polo Vivo is left

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Speaker 1: and mainly on that I mean autotradas. We reported that

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Speaker 1: this data coming out and that an average of seventy

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Speaker 1: thousand kilometers people are buying used cars at an average

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Speaker 1: of seventy thousand kilometers per car. So that just tells

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Speaker 1: us that people are really trusting it. Polo v we're

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Speaker 1: know it's cousin as well, which well if all the

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Speaker 1: sibling as I call it, the you know, the Polo

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Speaker 1: we've got this is you just swift, the Fortune No,

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Speaker 1: the Corolla Cross, the Dmax as well as the Grand

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Speaker 1: bring yourself all these models that I've mentioned. You look

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Speaker 1: at the Territor Highlights, which is constantly month on month

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Speaker 1: I'm not a surprised where you know, people are getting

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Speaker 1: into the Toyota Corolla Cross. So that is a indication

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Speaker 1: But we can see executive who the kings and queens

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Speaker 2: Also just looking at in terms of total sales Toyota

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Speaker 2: in January twenty twenty six. And I mean, of course

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Speaker 2: for instance, they have the Highlights there, the Cross there,

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Speaker 2: the Starlet, but they is selling eleven thousand, seven hundred

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Speaker 2: directly after them is Suzuki Auto. They sold six four hundred.

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Speaker 2: That is quite a considerable gap. Toyota almost sold double

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Speaker 2: that's number two to them. So Toyota doing something really

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Speaker 2: we often speak about, you know, the dominance of Chinese

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Speaker 2: have given consumers a lot more choice. But Toyota is

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Speaker 2: doing something rights.

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Speaker 1: Toliota is doing something very right indeed goods. I think

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Speaker 1: led mostly by their highlights as well as you know,

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Speaker 1: Cross as well as the Corolla Cross, all those cars

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Speaker 1: essentially making sure that everybody just wants to get into

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Speaker 1: You know, there's going to be some of their products

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Speaker 1: so many people are anticipating. Dealers right now cannot it

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Speaker 1: So you know, the history that Toyota has and just

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Speaker 1: what we're see and we look as well as Edward

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Speaker 1: Szoki is doing. Yes, they you know, there's a massive

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Speaker 1: You know, they're affordable, especially for young professional students and

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Speaker 2: Mean to that point, so of course being the top

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Speaker 1: And it's just that I think it's become that you know,

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Speaker 1: And it's been such an issue now where we are

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Speaker 2: Comb As always, it is a great pleasure having me

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Speaker 2: on the show. Thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me gird them. I

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