WEBVTT - Brian Molefe court case  

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<v Speaker 1>Seven oh two drivers eighteen minutes past three. Let's pick

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<v Speaker 1>up then on a story that's been leading the news

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<v Speaker 1>for much of today, the appearance of four former trans

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<v Speaker 1>Net members in court charged with fraud and offences under

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<v Speaker 1>the Public Finance Management Actors possible. I've missed on some

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<v Speaker 1>of the charges as well, but the names are well known.

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<v Speaker 1>They have come up in various newspaper reports, various investigations

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<v Speaker 1>by Gupta leaks and others, and of course at the

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<v Speaker 1>Zondor Commission. Brian Mulifa, Siabonga Gama, Anaj Singh and Tom

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<v Speaker 1>sank Giani the four people appearing. Our EWN reporter colleague

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<v Speaker 1>Alfa Ramashwana was there and joins us now Alpha, very

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<v Speaker 1>good afternoon to you. Bell was asked for Bell was granted.

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<v Speaker 1>Update us on the details of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Please good afternoon, John, Yes, and Brian relief. It's some

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<v Speaker 2>song like Kan and anod Sting, all of who were

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<v Speaker 2>executives that Transnet appeared at the Palmaries Magistrate's quote today.

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<v Speaker 2>They were arrested earlier this morning and appeared on the

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<v Speaker 2>same day and they were granted bail off about fifty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand rand in just for context about the contract and

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<v Speaker 2>the allegations here John. In twenty fifteen, according to the State,

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<v Speaker 2>a transaction advisory contract for one thousand and sixty four

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<v Speaker 2>locomotives was awarded to a company called JP Morgan, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's awarding of that contract was canceled and reversed and

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<v Speaker 2>instead awarded to a company linked to the Gupta family.

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<v Speaker 2>And a few months later a ninety three million Rand

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<v Speaker 2>payment was made to that company that was award that

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<v Speaker 2>is linked to the Groupta family, and another seventy four

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<v Speaker 2>million Rand left that company's account, it's understood to one

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<v Speaker 2>of the accounts of the people in the Gupta family

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<v Speaker 2>and the state is this is direct money laundering. It's

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<v Speaker 2>an abuse of the state state funds. And you remember

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<v Speaker 2>that all of these people are also facing similar charges

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<v Speaker 2>in a separate corruption case that has to do with

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<v Speaker 2>LOCOMOTIVESA Brian Mulief, Tamsung Machiani or are not sing as well?

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<v Speaker 2>Are not you to the court room and they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to face trial on the separate case next year in February,

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<v Speaker 2>which is in a way linked to this one here today.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is two separate cases, two separate locomotive cases,

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<v Speaker 2>but are linked in a way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it gets fairly complicated in the arguments for bail.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how do any sense of how the judge

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<v Speaker 1>arrived at fifty thousand rand per person, because certainly the

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<v Speaker 1>amounts of money involved and the little bits I heard

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<v Speaker 1>of the Effi Davids did suggest that that in general,

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<v Speaker 1>at least some of these men or men of means.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So there was a big, quite lengthy argument in

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<v Speaker 2>court today. The state was saying that it wanted them

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<v Speaker 2>to be given a bail of two hundred thousand rands

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<v Speaker 2>looking at the corruption cases that they are facing. The

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<v Speaker 2>money that is involved as well, millions of rands was

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<v Speaker 2>allegedly siphoned to the companies linked to the the family,

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<v Speaker 2>and the state was making this argument in court to say,

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<v Speaker 2>while these men are arguing that they can't afford two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand rand, if we look at their case and

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of allegations that they are dealing with, and

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that it's a charge five kings that they

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<v Speaker 2>are facing here, they need to be given two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand rand Baylor. But these states then gave them fifty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand rand each. We heard Prime mule So, who's a

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<v Speaker 2>member of parliament for the Umkontosus a party telling the

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<v Speaker 2>court that he earns about forty four thousand rand per

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<v Speaker 2>month and was telling the court that he could only

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<v Speaker 2>afford twenty thousand rand bail, but they judge that took

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<v Speaker 2>it to fifty thousand rand, and he says it's because

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<v Speaker 2>they were awarded bail on a separate case, the case

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm talking about, which the trial is set to

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<v Speaker 2>start in place next year. They were awarded fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>rand bail there, so they are going to be given

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<v Speaker 2>the same amount here. And because they've been adhering to

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<v Speaker 2>their bail conditions and that other separate case, there are

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<v Speaker 2>no reasons to believe that they will be flight this

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<v Speaker 2>time around. So the bail conditions are more or less

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<v Speaker 2>the same with the previous case. The amount is also

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<v Speaker 2>the same with the case that with their first case

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<v Speaker 2>that has to do with trans Net locomotives as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks very much, Alpha Ramo Schwana. Keeping on that court case.

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<v Speaker 1>More analysis on the matters behind what's turned up in

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<v Speaker 1>court and what will be heard doubtless once the case

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<v Speaker 1>gets underway. When it gets underway, because invariably there's a

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<v Speaker 1>string of postponements before we get to the real business

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<v Speaker 1>end of the matter. But we'll talk about that again

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<v Speaker 1>after five o'clock twenty three minutes past three