1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:05,559 Speaker 1: Lunch with Pippa Hudson on Kate Talk Join the conversation. 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: I know we've had a number of conversations over the 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: years about Operation Smile and the amazing work that is 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: done by medical volunteers who give up their time and 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: effort to change the lives of children who were born 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: with cleft lip and palette conditions. But I'm always happy 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: to return to the story because the impact of what 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: they do is so substantial, and we're delighted to help 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: them celebrate a big milestone this year, because Operations Smile 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: South Africa is turning twenty now. Over the past two decades, 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: they have helped transform literally thousands of lives. They have 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: delivered more than six thousand surgeries, working alongside local healthcare 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: systems and volunteer medical professionals all across the country and 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: in fact beyond South Africa's borders as well. And this 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: is not just about fixing a physical abnormality. It's about 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: restoring dignity. It's about giving access to proper nutrition. It's 17 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: about enabling easier speech, enabling smiles and also enabling social confidence. 18 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,279 Speaker 1: This is much much more than stitching closed a cleft. 19 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: What it means to a child's life is literally life changing. 20 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: So it's a pleasure to welcome back to the show 21 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: Sarah Scarth, who is the executive director of Operation Smile 22 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: South Africa, to reflect a little bit on the journey 23 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: so far, the challenges that still remain, and to talk 24 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: about how South Africa is helping to expand this kind 25 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: of care further into the African continent. Sarah, Happy twentieth 26 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: birthday to you and everybody at Operation Smile. It's wonderful 27 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: to have you with us today. 28 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: A good afternoon, Pa, Thank you so much. We are 29 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: really absolutely delighted to be marking the smilestone and thank 30 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: you for the opportunity to talk about it. 31 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: It's a huge pleasure. Twenty years and six thousand surgeries. 32 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: They might sound like impressive numbers, but really those are 33 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: just headlines that don't really properly communicate the actual impact 34 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: that you've had on the lives of children and their families. 35 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: Do you want to start there and tell us a 36 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: little bit about what your most part of as you 37 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: look back on that impact after twenty years. 38 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: Well, Papa, I just I feel completely humbled, If I'm 39 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: totally honest in reflecting on these numbers, as you say, 40 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: thousands of lives transform, but those are all families, people 41 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: who when their children were born were hopeless and hope 42 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: has been restored that a child can now live a 43 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: life to their fullest because they don't look different and 44 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: sound different from their peers. So that is just phenomenal. 45 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 2: But you know you, and you're welcome you an introduction. 46 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 2: You commented about strengthenings and how do we help train 47 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: and ensure that, you know, beyond volunteers going in and helping, 48 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: how are we improving systems And that's a huge mouth 49 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: you know. Aspect of this mouthstone that we're so proud 50 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: of is that the you know, the dozens and dozens 51 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: of individual men called professionals who are now specialized and 52 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: have the training so that they can continue these surgeries 53 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: or carry out speech therapy, or you know, be a 54 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: better nurse because of the of what we've done, and 55 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: we're so proud of that. 56 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: That's hugely significant. So if I'm understanding you correctly, it's 57 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: not just about a team going in saying all right, 58 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: we're in ex rural area today, who needs access to 59 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: this care. We'll do the surgeries while we here and 60 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: then we leave and sorry for your community. You'll have 61 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: to wait until we come back again. If I'm understanding 62 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: you correctly, Sarah, you're leaving behind a footprint that says 63 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: we've empowered local health care providers to be able to 64 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: help while we're not. 65 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: Here quite right to From the very early days of 66 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: Operation Smile, this was a core part of what we did. 67 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: Our teams did so those volunteers, dozens of them, many 68 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: of them from Cape Town, who put their hands up 69 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: and said count on me. I'll give up my leave, 70 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: I'll be away from our families for very long periods 71 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: of time in as you said, very rural, underserved, underresourced areas. 72 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: But they didn't just go to do the surgeries. They 73 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: stood alongside local doctors and nurses who were desperate to learn. 74 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: And those individuals today are leaving their programs in countries 75 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 2: Black or Wanda, Ghana, Mozambique, Malawi, Madagascar, or countries West 76 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: and South Africa. Led opened those doors and said we 77 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 2: want to do the surgeries, but we also want to 78 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: make you stronger. 79 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: This talk about why it's important to expand that care, Sarah. 80 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: I mean when we talk about cleft palettes and cleft lips. 81 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: It might well be that there are people living listening 82 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: to this interview who've never met somebody who was born 83 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: with one of those conditions and don't understand what the 84 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: significance is. Do you want to tell us a little 85 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: bit more firstly about how common they are and secondly 86 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: about the impact. And as I said of the introduction, 87 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: it's about much more than the physical looks, although the 88 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: physical looks is definitely a big part of it. The 89 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: knock on impact on a child's life is so significant. 90 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: Can you give us a bit of an overview. 91 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know so. It's it's one of the most 92 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:17,679 Speaker 2: common birth defects in the world and it can happen 93 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: to anybody, but it's most prevalent in lower income areas 94 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: and areas where there's a higher genetic prevalence of clefts. 95 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: So you know, we are We have often seen patients 96 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: who help have been born with a cleft and who 97 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: are bringing their children because they have been born with 98 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 2: the same condition. The reality is is that it can 99 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: be completely repaired, but it requires a specialist team to 100 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: do that. And so whilst Africa has not got the 101 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:58,679 Speaker 2: highest prevalence of cleft conditions, the reality is our numbers 102 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: are so high because as we have such a paucity 103 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 2: of specialists available to do to carry out these surgeries. 104 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 2: And that's where Operations SMILE has has focused is how 105 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: can we ensure that there are specialist teams to carry 106 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: out these surgeries because with ours, that child will live 107 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: a life of stigma, of isolation, bullying, and and and 108 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 2: just all the horrors of of of what it means 109 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: to live if you don't look and sound like the 110 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: person next year, and and and there's you know where 111 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 2: the operation style is in thirty eight countries delivering these services, 112 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: and we see the same we hear the same stories 113 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: wherever we go, and unfortunately, we work hard to raise 114 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 2: awareness about the condition, make people aware that access to 115 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: care is available, that it's treatable, they shouldn't be scared 116 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 2: of it, and that and that they that they can 117 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: live a life like a child not born with this condition. 118 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: But the reason why we as an organization we may 119 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: have focused on clefts, but by training specialists and training 120 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: the whole surgical team that is involved in providing those surgeries, 121 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: that the impact is massive because those individuals will not 122 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: only be able to help the child with a cleft, 123 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: but will be able to help children and adults with 124 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: many different other conditions because a cleft specialist is a 125 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: specialist able to do multiple different surgeries. So that's why 126 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: we're so committed to strength, to investing in education and 127 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: training and ensuring that yes, our volunteer is coming to help, 128 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: but they do we do more than just fly in 129 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 2: and fly out and be kind of the do gooders. 130 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: For anybody coming into this conversation way. Our guest is 131 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: Sarah Scarth's executive director of Operations Smile South Africa, celebrating 132 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: its twentieth year of operations this year and celebrating the 133 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: milestone of more than six thousand life changing surgeries already 134 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: conducted a on a comission to expand access to that 135 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: kind of intervention. Sarah, let's talk a little bit about 136 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: who is involved here. You've mentioned several times the fact 137 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,559 Speaker 1: that it's volunteers, that it's specialist surgeons who are giving 138 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: up their personal time and their time away from their 139 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: usual work to come and volunteer their efforts and time 140 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: as part of Operation Smile. Are they all plastic surgeons? 141 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: Do you want to tell us a little bit more 142 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: about the nature of the people who are volunteering because 143 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: I know the answer is it's a much wider network 144 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: than just the surgeons, as important as they are. 145 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, surgeons are definitely key that they can do 146 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: nothing with a team around them, and so we need 147 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: we have to bring clift surgeons. They can be on 148 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: productminently plastic surgeons, but we do also have some maxillo 149 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: facial surgeons who have specialized in this. And then obviously 150 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 2: the anesthesiologist and because we're working with children, pediatric anesthesiologists 151 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: is critical nurses both in the theater and in the ward. 152 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 2: Pediatricians to care for the children when they are coming 153 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 2: up before surgery and after surgery. Speech therapists. Speech is 154 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: absolutely critical component for any child born with a safe 155 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 2: condition and has that the therapy needs to continue well 156 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: after the surgery has happened. Dental as well, often the teeth. 157 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: There's a lot of dental care that's needed as well. 158 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: And in our psychosocial support, how do we come alongside families, 159 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: mothers in particular and help support them with the trauma 160 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 2: and the difficulties that they've been through in having a 161 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: child is left and then how do they we help 162 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: them support them as they go through a long journey 163 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: because a child was accept or not just usually need 164 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: one surgery, but it's multiple surgeries as the as they 165 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: grow and their mass develops. So it's a big team. 166 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 2: It also includes non medical roles such as medical records 167 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 2: pitch we call it patient imaging, and then of course 168 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: they're all important biomedical engineer making sure that all the 169 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 2: equipments working because when we go into do a surgical program, 170 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: we take everythingle we if we always, if we've established 171 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: that the equipment at the hospital is not sufficient, we 172 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: will bring our own all the consumable of everything that's 173 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: needed so that we're not having an impact on that 174 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: local hospital. 175 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: Okay, well you've answered Louisa's question because she was just 176 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: asking about whether there's a role for non medical people 177 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: to get involved. So the answer Louisa is absolutely yes. Sarah, 178 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: if somebody listening to this wants to volunteer of their 179 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: time or be of support in any way, do you 180 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: welcome that sort of offer from members of the public 181 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: or do you have to be quite specific about who 182 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: you select to go on these missions? 183 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 2: You know we are we have to be specific because 184 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 2: the team is predominantly medical. But i'd really encourage anybody 185 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: who's interested to visit our website, which is operationsmile dot 186 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 2: org dot SEDE, because whether you're in the operating theater 187 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 2: or whether you are outside, you have a role to 188 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: play piper. These six thousand surgeries and the counters other 189 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 2: patients who benefit from speech, dental interventions, oral health, community 190 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: DOTACH programs that we've done. It all needs to be 191 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 2: funded and so it's a community of supporters. So whether 192 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: it's school children collecting bottletops, or it's runners you're taking 193 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: part in two Oceans or some lump cap timarathon or 194 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: tie the cycle to there are so many other ways 195 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 2: to get involved, and of course our twentieth is inextricably 196 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: linked to those individuals who've some of them put their 197 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 2: bodies on the line to raise awareness of our work 198 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: and to raise funds, and of course leading that charge 199 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: has been David Greer. Why many Caponians will know so 200 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: well as the first person to run do the Great 201 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: Wall of China run there and back? So yeah, and 202 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: it's just phenomenal. How you know that we would They 203 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 2: are also volunteers for people who put their hands up 204 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 2: and said I may not be a medical doctor or 205 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 2: a nurse or a dentist that I can help. 206 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: Sarah, I'm so glad you reminded me of David's involvement. 207 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: We've had him on the show a couple of times 208 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: talking about his various running exploits, and he's been such 209 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: an important crusader full Operational Smile over the years. So 210 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: appreciate that recognition. You know what, the one thing we 211 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: haven't spoken about is the fact on the medical professionals themselves. 212 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you've spoken about the volunteerism, the fact that 213 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 1: they are giving up their personal time and their personal 214 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: leave to come and do this. But Sarah, clearly they 215 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: get something out of that because I know many of 216 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: them keep coming back for mission after mission after mission. 217 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: Do you want to speak to us a little bit 218 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: about what they tell you it means to them to 219 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: be part of these missions. 220 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 2: You know. But when I first joined Operation Smile five 221 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: years ago, I was like any new director. I was 222 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 2: going around thanking and getting to know people, and over 223 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: and over again, volunteers would say no, no, no, no, 224 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: no no, it's not about me. It's not about me. 225 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 2: And one of them, Clover and Lee and Johannesburger one 226 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 2: of our pediatric anethotis. She said, I have to tell 227 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: you a story of how I joined Operation Smile at 228 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 2: a time when I was going through a really difficult 229 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: period in my life, and this being part of Operation 230 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: Smile really helped heal me. And so, yes, we often 231 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 2: look at what we are doing for the patients, but 232 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: so many of our volunteers, in fact all of them, 233 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: would say what the patients do for them, what they 234 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: learn from the patients about resilience and determination. And if 235 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: you are somebody living in a rural village in Malawi 236 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 2: or Mozambique with a child with the left walking two 237 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: three days, with the possibility of reaching here, most of 238 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: us have no comprehension of what that means. But all 239 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: of us who our parents will know that we will 240 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: go to the ends of the earth to help our children. 241 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: And so being faced with that, seeing that, seeing that determination, 242 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: seeing the trust that these parents place in us, I 243 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: think that our volunteers, that's one of the main reasons 244 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: why they keep doing this work. Why because it fuels them. 245 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: And you know, one of the most rewarding moments in 246 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: my career with our Creation Smile was leaving a program 247 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: in the Eastern Cape and the local anesthesiologist stopped me 248 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: and said, this has just been the most remarkable experience 249 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: to walk alongside your colleagues and what I've learned from them, 250 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: not just in becoming a better anesthetist, but also in 251 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: the care for the patients, and how I will now 252 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: take that and deliver that to every patient that I 253 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: interact with. So you know, we, you know, are very 254 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: patient centered and we treat every patient as if they 255 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 2: were our own. 256 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I just you know, the easiest comment is 257 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: just the ultimate mic drop, isn't it. Sarah. You're impacted 258 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: the patients, You're also impacting the other medical professionals who 259 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: see your teams at work and learn from them, and 260 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: that is an absolute win when one additional element to 261 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: add to the mix aver all emailing me to say, 262 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: please also recognize the hugely positive impact these surgeries have 263 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: on a baby's ability to breastfeed. Thanksful for pointing that out. 264 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: Nutritional access part of the conversation, as well as the 265 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: ability to speak and the issue of stigma that's been raised. 266 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: So appreciate that, Sarah. I mean, in closing, firstly, congratulations 267 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: to you and everybody involved in this amazing work on 268 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: twenty years of giving back to community and beyond South 269 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: Africa's borders making such an impact. Final question is really 270 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: the vision going forward? Is it about expanding the geographical reach? 271 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: Is it about being able to reach more communities within 272 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: South Africa? What is the hope for the next twenty years. 273 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: Well, for we are so thrilled of what we've been 274 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: able to achieve, but the reality of the work is 275 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: not done. And here in South Africa the need is 276 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: greater than ever as our health department face cut backs 277 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: austerity measures. You know, we are being called upon more 278 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: and more more provincial departments of health reaching out saying 279 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: will you help us? And so here to chi's being cut. 280 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: Cleftop often not seen as a as a as a 281 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 2: life threatening and so they are placed on awaiting list. 282 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: But it's not just that it's impacting our ability to 283 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 2: train specialists when yet time is cut and so again, 284 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: our commitment to ensuring that every surgical program is a 285 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: training and education opportunity will help to also support the 286 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 2: training of specialists who will you know, into our system 287 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: and beyond our borders, not just our volunteers to go 288 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: out as educators into the countries where we work when 289 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 2: need in Africa is absolutely massive and there are just 290 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: thousands and thousands of people living with this condition, and 291 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: so yeah, the need is enormous. Operations Now South Africa. 292 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 2: It's very focused today on the work we're doing in 293 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: South Africa and then supporting our colleagues across nine other 294 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: countries in the region. And we know our work depends 295 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: on the support of volunteers on our journals and in individuals, 296 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: people who just put their hand up and take out 297 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 2: on me. 298 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: Sarah Scot thank you in congratulations on the twenty year milestone, 299 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: but most importantly thank you to you and everybody involved 300 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: with Operation Smile South Africa for that magnificent achievement of 301 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: more than six thousand surgeries and lives transformed in the process, 302 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: as well as the spillover effect of the medical training 303 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: and extension of skills, so wonderful. If anybody listening to 304 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: this would like to read up more or offer a contribution, 305 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: whether it is through your medical expertise or through a 306 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: financial contribution, please do check out the website Operationsmile dot 307 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: org dot SEDA