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Speaker 1: Cap Talk A Worldview from London with Adam Gilchrist. Good morning,

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Speaker 1: Adam Gilchrist. I hope you've had a relaxing, a peaceful

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Speaker 1: and may I also say blessed Easter weekend. No matter

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Speaker 1: which way you observed, that sounds good.

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Speaker 2: All of that very good. Well, we had the family

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Speaker 2: over and I was cooking lunch, so it was slightly

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Speaker 2: less relaxed perhaps for me on the Sunday, but fabulous

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Speaker 2: family thing and my mother aged ninety two Hoover as well.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations mommy Gilchrist. But of course many of us were

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Speaker 1: left perplexed. A little Easter treat left for us by

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Speaker 1: one egged one Donald Trump. He's deadlines and ultimatums. It's

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Speaker 1: all about He's Easter. What do you call a tweet?

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Speaker 1: Social post? A truth for a truth for what do

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Speaker 1: you call it? Well, it's all about him calling the

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Speaker 1: Iranians you crazy bastards.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, there was an extraordinary expletive laden message at

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Speaker 2: one stage, wasn't it, which we can't repeat, but suffice

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Speaker 2: it to say that he was telling them basically to

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Speaker 2: give up and sign a deal and stop the war.

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Speaker 2: And yet all the time, of course, there are still

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Speaker 2: missiles landing both in Iran and out of Iran. And

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Speaker 2: now we have this new deadline, and I kind of

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Speaker 2: lost track at one stages to which deadline we were on.

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Speaker 2: But essentially this one expires in about nineteen hours more

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Speaker 2: or less in nineteen hours time. It's basically an explicit

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Speaker 2: deadline to make sure there's a ceasefire to open the

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Speaker 2: Strait of Hormuz, which of course, only last week he

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Speaker 2: was saying was not a priority and it's up to

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Speaker 2: other countries to do. But anyway, open the Strait of

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Speaker 2: Hormuz and then do the deal. Otherwise, very little is

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Speaker 2: off limits, as he put it. Now for the American

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Speaker 2: president to talk about bombing bridges and civilian infrastructure, well

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Speaker 2: we've seen the worst of that in Ukraine by Russia,

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Speaker 2: and it seems to make no difference to the fact

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Speaker 2: that these are war crimes. But you can't just go

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Speaker 2: and bomb people's bridges because you don't like what they're

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Speaker 2: not doing it at a negotiating table. And of course

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Speaker 2: all this is very weird because it was only the

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Speaker 2: whole thing began five weeks ago when they were already

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Speaker 2: in negotiations. Now the Americans mightn't liked the way the

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Speaker 2: negotiations were going. But they were actually talking at that stage.

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Speaker 2: I think in Geneva, weren't they. So here we are

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Speaker 2: again talk or there'll be action, But what kind of action?

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Speaker 2: Will it be illegal action? Do we believe the deadline?

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Speaker 2: Do the Iranians believe the deadline? I don't know. It's tempestuous.

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Speaker 1: Iranian social media counts, official media counts, like the various

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Speaker 1: embassies in Pretoria embarrass around the world out rightly mocking

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump when he says open the straits of Amuz

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Speaker 1: and then they'll respond, can't find the key, mate, sorry,

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Speaker 1: uh yeah. But also with with quite relish, watching the

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Speaker 1: United States, the American broadcasters, they make it quite clear

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Speaker 1: we can only say this because it's the President who tweeted,

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Speaker 1: we are you and I far too of course, far

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Speaker 1: too too kind and obedient not to say the F word.

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Speaker 1: But I enjoy them over the weekend with quite relish,

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Speaker 1: saying and and and quoting the President. Tuesday will be

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Speaker 1: power plant Day and bridge Day, all wrapped up in one.

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Speaker 1: In Iran, open the F words straight, they would say,

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Speaker 1: you crazy bosses, And I did, yeah, a little bit

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Speaker 1: of yeah, a little bit of enjoyment being allowed to

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Speaker 1: say it simply because the President tweeted it. Okay, let's

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Speaker 1: move now to Germany's deadly Easter egg and three dead

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Speaker 1: after a tree fell on people.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, oh, impossible to imagine, really, I mean, it's just

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Speaker 2: one of those things that you could not have seen coming,

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Speaker 2: or maybe could you, Because what we have here is

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Speaker 2: an easter egg hunt near a facility for single mothers,

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Speaker 2: pregnant women, women who perhaps need a little bit more

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Speaker 2: help from the state, shall we say so, not necessarily

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Speaker 2: all impoverished and on benefits, but a load of mums

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Speaker 2: in particular, and toddlers and babies out looking for Easter

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Speaker 2: eggs in this little wooded area. And unfortunately, the area

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Speaker 2: in northern Germany had been hit by a bad storm,

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Speaker 2: strong winds, and at least one tree had been weakened.

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Speaker 2: And as they were searching beneath, the tree fell on them,

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Speaker 2: and an enormous, great, big, thirty five meter high tree

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Speaker 2: just collapsed on top of them and killed this baby girl,

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Speaker 2: this ten month old girl. Her mother, aged twenty one,

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Speaker 2: died at the sea as she was being treated by paramedics.

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Speaker 2: Another girl, who was aged sixteen also died ultimately another

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Speaker 2: suffered serious injuries because trees when they fall on my word,

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Speaker 2: we've seen it in particular in storms on cars and

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Speaker 2: people get crushed to death. Just an awful, awful thing.

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Speaker 2: And of course it will live long in the memory

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Speaker 2: of all those who were taking part. There were fifty

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Speaker 2: odd people who were in theory just having a fun

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Speaker 2: day out in the sunshine, and then that happened.

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Speaker 1: And then finally is it yes or no to ya

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Speaker 1: controversy over Festival Dight for the musician known as Yezy

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Speaker 1: ye'sus conn the Louis Verton Don Saint Pablo, also known

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Speaker 1: as Kanye.

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Speaker 2: Whist Yeah, is it yea or nay d yea? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So Kanyer, who is not shy of making the odd

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Speaker 2: controversial comment. I mean, he goes further than Donald Trump sometimes.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's the fact that only last year.

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Speaker 2: Was it last year or the year before perhaps had

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Speaker 2: he released a song called Hyle Hitler He kind of

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Speaker 2: dedicated his mantra and his philosophy on life to the

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Speaker 2: Nazi Party, saying he was a keen supporter of Nazi policies.

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Speaker 2: He sold swastka T shirts. That was definitely last year.

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Speaker 2: The Swastaka T shirt, so all of that wrapped into one.

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Speaker 2: Given that other comments he's made as well, he suggested

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Speaker 2: they were down to being bipolar. I'm not sure you

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Speaker 2: can quite get away with that and just dismiss it,

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Speaker 2: because yes, bipolar can cause all sorts of strangenesses in

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Speaker 2: people or things that they regret at any rate. But

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Speaker 2: he hasn't actually expressed great regrets either. So he's been

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Speaker 2: booked to appear for three dates at a big music

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Speaker 2: festival in London in Finsbury Park in London, three dates

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Speaker 2: in July. The tickets are now on sale should he

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Speaker 2: be refused entry. Personally, I'm not one for banning people.

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Speaker 2: I always think that when you banning people. But the

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Speaker 2: thing is, if he's inciting, if there's the potential for

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Speaker 2: other neo Nazis or right wing extremists to turn up

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Speaker 2: and cause trouble, that's one thing. If, on the other hand,

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Speaker 2: it's just some nutty music bloke mouthing off a bit anywhere,

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Speaker 2: at this stage, ministers are under pressure to ban it. Frankly,

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Speaker 2: the organizers of the music festival under pressure to withdraw

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Speaker 2: him because they've got all, well not all, but half

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Speaker 2: a dozen sponsors have now walked away. He is toxic,

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Speaker 2: is Canye, and therefore you wonder if perhaps his days

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Speaker 2: are numbered at any music festival anywhere in the world,

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Speaker 2: or are we being too reactive?

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Speaker 1: And he's of course enjoying the profits of his utterances

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Speaker 1: and his and his merchandise, and I somehow think they

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Speaker 1: should be be consequences on your words and your actions

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Speaker 1: if they have a way to influence other people. Adam,

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Speaker 1: Gilchris really appreciate your As always, I'll chat you tomorrow

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Speaker 1: live from London with the World View