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Speaker 1: We are talking cars worth ernest page from change cars

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Speaker 1: dot Co dot z and all things motoring, and we

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Speaker 1: are going to get to some of your motoring questions

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Speaker 1: that you're welcome to send through on WhatsApp or email.

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Speaker 1: But first we are going to have a different kind

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Speaker 1: of conversation today because rather than starting with the traditional

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Speaker 1: car review, we are all mindful of the fact that

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Speaker 1: the mother of all fuel price increases is heading our

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Speaker 1: way next week. Thanks to the war in the Middle East,

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Speaker 1: the price of crude oil over the one hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: a barrel mark. There are concerns around security of supply,

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Speaker 1: and the result for us on the ground is that

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Speaker 1: we are anticipating a petrol price increase somewhere between five

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Speaker 1: or six rand e liter next Wednesday, pushing the price

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Speaker 1: to over twenty five rand a liter, even worse for diesel,

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Speaker 1: which will go up eight or nine rand a liter

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Speaker 1: to more than twenty seven per liter. And those are

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Speaker 1: the more conservative estimates, I should add, So rather than

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Speaker 1: looking at an individual car today, we're going to look

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Speaker 1: at the question of how we drive and whether we

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Speaker 1: as drivers can make a difference to our fuel consumption

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Speaker 1: by the way we drive. Ernest. Always great to have

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Speaker 1: you with us, in particularly so for I think a

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Speaker 1: very important and hopefully helpful conversation. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Papa. And I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 2: this conversation because it's something that I'm currently cruising around

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Speaker 2: in my family's new cards a little miss and micro

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Speaker 2: and regassed the aircond just running Allen's with it. And

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Speaker 2: what a pleasure a three cylinder car that uses four

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Speaker 2: point five liters p undred itself. I've really been percolating

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Speaker 2: quite a bit on what it's like to drive an

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Speaker 2: economical poll versus what it's like to drive something like

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Speaker 2: a double cab Bucky that potentially uses double the amount

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Speaker 2: of fuel. And I think when we have the incremental

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Speaker 2: increases in fuel price, we don't really notice it that much.

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Speaker 2: But when you're looking at a five rand a liter

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Speaker 2: increase in petrol, ify times that by fifty liters. I

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Speaker 2: mean that's a substantial amount. Yeah, that's two on for

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Speaker 2: current extra on a tank of fuel. That's two hundred

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Speaker 2: a substantial amount for anybody. So I've done a couple

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Speaker 2: of calculations that are quite interesting when it comes to

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Speaker 2: fuel saving that I'd love to discuss with you. So,

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Speaker 2: the average distance traveled by South Africans for work, according

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Speaker 2: to some studies, is around one thousand kilometers per month.

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Speaker 2: We also spend a lot of that time takedown is

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Speaker 2: the second highest in the country prietorious number one when

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Speaker 2: it comes to sitting in traffic, So a lot about

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Speaker 2: a thousand of our kilometers travel per month. If we

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Speaker 2: let's say, plus three hundred kilometers of leisure travel, you

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Speaker 2: can get one thousand, three hundred kilometers of travel per month,

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Speaker 2: and almost a thousand of that will be spent in traffic.

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Speaker 2: So it's actually quite difficult to then be saving as

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Speaker 2: much fuel as possible in traffic because you can't often

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Speaker 2: control the pace of the traffice, kind of just going

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Speaker 2: along with the pace of the traffic. But there are

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Speaker 2: still many things that we can do. Number One, if

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Speaker 2: you're really trying to save some fuel, the air can

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Speaker 2: be is definitely something that you can turn off on

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Speaker 2: your car, especially if it's not needed. If it's not

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Speaker 2: air conditioning and that will save you a couple of

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Speaker 2: cents here and there. Now None of these savings that

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Speaker 2: I'm going to mention are huge changes that we can make,

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Speaker 2: but incrementally they do add up. The other thing that

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Speaker 2: main one, is don't drive abruptly and don't drive aggressively

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Speaker 2: with your car, because when we drive aggressively, that's when

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Speaker 2: the sudden acceleration, it's the sudden braking. So we need

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Speaker 2: to then try and make sure that we can then

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Speaker 2: do it if your car's got a modern system on it,

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Speaker 2: and most costs from the last ten fifteen years have

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Speaker 2: have a stop star system isn't worthwhile. If you see

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Speaker 1: That's a really important comment. So if your car was

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Speaker 1: designed that way with a built in stop start, be

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Speaker 1: grateful you have the advantage of that technology. But if

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Speaker 1: your car is an old model that doesn't have that,

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Speaker 1: you're saying it's really only worth it if you can

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Speaker 1: see I'm stuck behind an accident, I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: standing here for several minutes before I move. For example, Ernest,

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Speaker 1: you're saying that the net gain on fuel consumption might

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Speaker 1: far sooner than you would otherwise have done. So I

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Speaker 1: do want to mention, I mean your comment about turning

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Speaker 1: off the air con, but you know, my initial thought is,

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Speaker 1: thank heavens, Thank heavens. This increase is coming in April,

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Speaker 1: not November. We desperately need the air con and I

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Speaker 1: mean tongue in cheek, having had the air con on

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Speaker 1: all day yesterday, bad example. But at least we are

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Speaker 1: seasonally moving into the point where we use less of

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Speaker 1: the air con. Ernest, what about tire pressure. I know

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Speaker 1: all cars come with a recommended sort of optimum tire pressure.

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Speaker 1: Does that make a difference on the way the vehicle

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't It would make a difference what I think not

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Speaker 2: a vast amount of difference. And also you've got to

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Speaker 2: be then safely within that window of inflating the tigle.

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Speaker 2: Then you'd go home on the tire, which means that

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Speaker 2: you've got less surface area and you've got less drag

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Speaker 2: on the bottom of the tire. But interestingly, what actually

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Speaker 2: you've opted to go with a wider tire on a

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Speaker 2: And if we're looking at let's say twelve, if we

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Speaker 2: So let's say my car uses an average of sixty

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Speaker 2: about five and our lids sponge all my car uses nine,

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Speaker 2: and I can get it down to about eight liters pundard.

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Speaker 2: That is a saving of thirteen hundred kilometers travel. You

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Speaker 2: You know, if you're saving thirteen liters times about twenty

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Speaker 2: about two hundred fifty random per month on fuel. So

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Speaker 2: you could just by tweaking one's driving habits and driving

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Speaker 2: more economical than economical in this situation. Check your one's

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Speaker 2: more tips that I've got on on my dock year again,

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Speaker 2: smooth acceleration, reduced idling, trying not to idle as much

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Speaker 2: as possible. Consistent speed. Maintaining consistent speed is very important,

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Speaker 2: So get up to the speed nice and gradually and slowly,

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Speaker 2: as Capetonians know about that well, but I wouldn't suggest

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Speaker 2: putting into neutral. It's not worth any saving that may

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Speaker 2: And it also just makes the car feel a bit

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Speaker 2: like it's about to run away and you're not hundred

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Speaker 2: but planning the uphills and the downhills and just trying

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Speaker 1: Okay, so Danny is saying, I've got into the habit

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Speaker 1: Is Danny's question.

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Speaker 2: If you listen to the way some of those can idle,

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Speaker 2: But if you are neutral, make sure that you're either

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Speaker 2: And then just another little thing that I've got on

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Speaker 2: how much wind resistance that generate. See if you've got

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Speaker 2: a naked roof fract that you're not using, make sure

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Speaker 2: to maybe take that off for the winter period if

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you've just answered exactly what Michelle asked. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for that. So Michelle, Yes, indeed, your roof racks

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Speaker 1: I know they are a shlap to take on and

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Speaker 1: off depending on the model, but it might be worth

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Speaker 1: it if you're not using them regularly. Keith asking about

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Speaker 1: the weight of the vehicle and the weight in the vehicle.

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Speaker 1: So Ernest, you know a lot of us drive around

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Speaker 1: with stuff in the back of the boot and you

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Speaker 1: know I've got my gym gear and the weights that

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Speaker 1: go with it, et ce. It's minuscule amount of extra weight,

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Speaker 1: but it is extra weight. Does that all make a difference?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it all counts generally five kilograms, two kilograms, two

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Speaker 2: jettison some passengers every night. I think that's probably the

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Speaker 2: biggest weight saving. And then of course there's the practical tips.

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Speaker 2: And we've spoken about the fact that the train system

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Speaker 2: is thankfully now finally starting to work, and is public

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Speaker 2: transport an option for the individual? Can you avoid peak traffic?

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Speaker 2: We've got a nice little system at Kilowney Gardens where

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Speaker 2: some of the employers have said, you know what, you

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Speaker 2: can leave ten minutes before four o'clock out of the

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Speaker 2: at five o'clock it's a totally different conversation to ten

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Speaker 2: to five. So are you able to avoid that peak

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Speaker 1: Yeah, planning your roots that you're not deviating and taking

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent not using the vehicle is probably the

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Speaker 2: The demo you can look at about eighty fifteen percent

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Speaker 1: Okay, we have to leave it there, Ernest, but thank

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Speaker 1: you some very valuable information today. Appreciate your taking the

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Speaker 1: time to put that list together for us, and we

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Speaker 1: will certainly make sure it's shared on social media as well.

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Speaker 1: And you please drive safely and fuel efficiently until we

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Speaker 1: speak again next Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: That is certainly the plan.

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Speaker 1: Chat there, fuel efficiently, she said to somebody who drives

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Speaker 1: I mean. Earnest page from change cars, dot co, dot

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